Paint

[Stuart Murphy]

Hi all,

What materials/process can I use to patch up:

i) minor frame scratches
ii) more significant areas (several square cm)?

Am concerned about long term rusting (though I suspect the rust won't be the
first thing to kill this bike, so maybe I'm concerned about it looking
pretty???)

Cheers
Stuart

[Gary K]

Stuart Murphy > wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> What materials/process can I use to patch up:
>
> i) minor frame scratches
> ii) more significant areas (several square cm)?
>
> Am concerned about long term rusting (though I suspect the rust won't be the
> first thing to kill this bike, so maybe I'm concerned about it looking
> pretty???)
>
> Cheers
> Stuart

For i) If the scratch isn't deep enough to catch your fingernail,
cutting compound will get rid of it. Then finish with a fine polish, it
will look like new.

ii) An amatuer spray job never looks good (ie, from those auto paint
spray cans, but enough for rust protection). But if thats all your
budget stretches to, thats it. Otherwise go to custom frame builder, he
can organise a spray.

hope this helps.
GK

[Gary K]

Stuart Murphy > wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> What materials/process can I use to patch up:
>
> i) minor frame scratches
> ii) more significant areas (several square cm)?
>
> Am concerned about long term rusting (though I suspect the rust won't be the
> first thing to kill this bike, so maybe I'm concerned about it looking
> pretty???)
>
> Cheers
> Stuart

For i) If the scratch isn't deep enough to catch your fingernail,
cutting compound will get rid of it. Then finish with a fine polish, it
will look like new.

ii) An amatuer spray job never looks good (ie, from those auto paint
spray cans, but enough for rust protection). But if thats all your
budget stretches to, thats it. Otherwise go to custom frame builder, he
can organise a spray.

hope this helps.
GK

[Andrew Swan]

Gary K wrote:
> Stuart Murphy > wrote:
>
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>What materials/process can I use to patch up:
>>
>>i) minor frame scratches
>>ii) more significant areas (several square cm)?
>>
>>Am concerned about long term rusting (though I suspect the rust won't be the
>>first thing to kill this bike, so maybe I'm concerned about it looking
>>pretty???)
>>
>>Cheers
>>Stuart
>
>
> For i) If the scratch isn't deep enough to catch your fingernail,
> cutting compound will get rid of it. Then finish with a fine polish, it
> will look like new.
>
> ii) An amatuer spray job never looks good (ie, from those auto paint
> spray cans, but enough for rust protection). But if thats all your
> budget stretches to, thats it. Otherwise go to custom frame builder, he
> can organise a spray.
>
> hope this helps.
> GK

My bike could do with a respray, but my worry is that the finish won't
be as durable as the original. Can anyone who's had their frame
resprayed confirm whether this is the case?

Also, who in Sydney would be recommended for this kind of work and what
kind of $$$ are we talking?

TIA,

&roo

[Andrew Swan]

Gary K wrote:
> Stuart Murphy > wrote:
>
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>What materials/process can I use to patch up:
>>
>>i) minor frame scratches
>>ii) more significant areas (several square cm)?
>>
>>Am concerned about long term rusting (though I suspect the rust won't be the
>>first thing to kill this bike, so maybe I'm concerned about it looking
>>pretty???)
>>
>>Cheers
>>Stuart
>
>
> For i) If the scratch isn't deep enough to catch your fingernail,
> cutting compound will get rid of it. Then finish with a fine polish, it
> will look like new.
>
> ii) An amatuer spray job never looks good (ie, from those auto paint
> spray cans, but enough for rust protection). But if thats all your
> budget stretches to, thats it. Otherwise go to custom frame builder, he
> can organise a spray.
>
> hope this helps.
> GK

My bike could do with a respray, but my worry is that the finish won't
be as durable as the original. Can anyone who's had their frame
resprayed confirm whether this is the case?

Also, who in Sydney would be recommended for this kind of work and what
kind of $$$ are we talking?

TIA,

&roo

[geoffs]

The best spray painter in Sydney is Peter at Star Enamel. His Phone # is
02 9790 1025. He paints frames for Hillbrick, Baum, Kotzur and Bosevski
and most probably others as well. As to cost, I recently had our Santana
Sovereign tandem reprayed with a two colour fade, ( bianci mango fading
to a deep bright red) and that set me back about $450. I think a single
colour for a single starts at $150 but dont quote me. You get what you
pay for and you dont want to be in a rush as there is normally at least
a 4 week wait.



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[geoffs]

The best spray painter in Sydney is Peter at Star Enamel. His Phone # is
02 9790 1025. He paints frames for Hillbrick, Baum, Kotzur and Bosevski
and most probably others as well. As to cost, I recently had our Santana
Sovereign tandem reprayed with a two colour fade, ( bianci mango fading
to a deep bright red) and that set me back about $450. I think a single
colour for a single starts at $150 but dont quote me. You get what you
pay for and you dont want to be in a rush as there is normally at least
a 4 week wait.



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[Deep Flayed Mares]

> For i) If the scratch isn't deep enough to catch your fingernail,
> cutting compound will get rid of it. Then finish with a fine polish, it
> will look like new.
>
> ii) An amatuer spray job never looks good (ie, from those auto paint
> spray cans, but enough for rust protection). But if thats all your
> budget stretches to, thats it. Otherwise go to custom frame builder, he
> can organise a spray.

It's really a question of budget. I have been spray painting with autopaint
(3 cans, primer, red, yellow) all day, and the result looks pretty damn
good. Must admit I have been doing a lot of it of late, and the first few
attempts were pretty rough.

A good clean surface on the frame is really important. I cleaned up my frame
today using a wire wheel, which makes light work of it. Also, don't do the
actual spraying if your ****ed off at all. You'll stuff it up!!!

If you can pay a professional to do it, then by all means! Mine cost $20 for
all the paint, and about 6 hours work.
---
DFM

[Deep Flayed Mares]

> For i) If the scratch isn't deep enough to catch your fingernail,
> cutting compound will get rid of it. Then finish with a fine polish, it
> will look like new.
>
> ii) An amatuer spray job never looks good (ie, from those auto paint
> spray cans, but enough for rust protection). But if thats all your
> budget stretches to, thats it. Otherwise go to custom frame builder, he
> can organise a spray.

It's really a question of budget. I have been spray painting with autopaint
(3 cans, primer, red, yellow) all day, and the result looks pretty damn
good. Must admit I have been doing a lot of it of late, and the first few
attempts were pretty rough.

A good clean surface on the frame is really important. I cleaned up my frame
today using a wire wheel, which makes light work of it. Also, don't do the
actual spraying if your ****ed off at all. You'll stuff it up!!!

If you can pay a professional to do it, then by all means! Mine cost $20 for
all the paint, and about 6 hours work.
---
DFM

[Zig]

If it is for rust protection, (don't let on that you did this but...)
minor chips and small metal deep scratches can be concealed with nail polish.
With the bewildering array available you can get a pretty good match.

Zig

Stuart Murphy wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> What materials/process can I use to patch up:
>
> i) minor frame scratches
> ii) more significant areas (several square cm)?
>
> Am concerned about long term rusting (though I suspect the rust won't be the
> first thing to kill this bike, so maybe I'm concerned about it looking
> pretty???)
>
> Cheers
> Stuart
>
>

[Zig]

If it is for rust protection, (don't let on that you did this but...)
minor chips and small metal deep scratches can be concealed with nail polish.
With the bewildering array available you can get a pretty good match.

Zig

Stuart Murphy wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> What materials/process can I use to patch up:
>
> i) minor frame scratches
> ii) more significant areas (several square cm)?
>
> Am concerned about long term rusting (though I suspect the rust won't be the
> first thing to kill this bike, so maybe I'm concerned about it looking
> pretty???)
>
> Cheers
> Stuart
>
>

[Gary K]

You know, and I'm not suggesting this as a solution to the original
poster, but when the bill goes over $200, for that money u can set
yourself up with compressor, spray guns and cans of 2 pack auto (the
real stuff) and do a much better job than with the aerosol cans from
auto shops.

GK

geoffs > wrote:

> The best spray painter in Sydney is Peter at Star Enamel. His Phone # is
> 02 9790 1025. He paints frames for Hillbrick, Baum, Kotzur and Bosevski
> and most probably others as well. As to cost, I recently had our Santana
> Sovereign tandem reprayed with a two colour fade, ( bianci mango fading
> to a deep bright red) and that set me back about $450. I think a single
> colour for a single starts at $150 but dont quote me. You get what you
> pay for and you dont want to be in a rush as there is normally at least
> a 4 week wait.
>
>
>
> --
> >--------------------------<
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> http://www.cyclingforums.com

[Gary K]

You know, and I'm not suggesting this as a solution to the original
poster, but when the bill goes over $200, for that money u can set
yourself up with compressor, spray guns and cans of 2 pack auto (the
real stuff) and do a much better job than with the aerosol cans from
auto shops.

GK

geoffs > wrote:

> The best spray painter in Sydney is Peter at Star Enamel. His Phone # is
> 02 9790 1025. He paints frames for Hillbrick, Baum, Kotzur and Bosevski
> and most probably others as well. As to cost, I recently had our Santana
> Sovereign tandem reprayed with a two colour fade, ( bianci mango fading
> to a deep bright red) and that set me back about $450. I think a single
> colour for a single starts at $150 but dont quote me. You get what you
> pay for and you dont want to be in a rush as there is normally at least
> a 4 week wait.
>
>
>
> --
> >--------------------------<
> Posted via cyclingforums.com
> http://www.cyclingforums.com

[Arpit]

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:29:15 +0800, (Gary K)
wrote:

>Stuart Murphy > wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> What materials/process can I use to patch up:
>>
>> i) minor frame scratches
>> ii) more significant areas (several square cm)?
>>
>> Am concerned about long term rusting (though I suspect the rust won't be the
>> first thing to kill this bike, so maybe I'm concerned about it looking
>> pretty???)
>>
>> Cheers
>> Stuart
>
>For i) If the scratch isn't deep enough to catch your fingernail,
>cutting compound will get rid of it. Then finish with a fine polish, it
>will look like new.
>
>ii) An amatuer spray job never looks good (ie, from those auto paint
>spray cans, but enough for rust protection). But if thats all your
>budget stretches to, thats it. Otherwise go to custom frame builder, he
>can organise a spray.
>
If you practice, they can look very nice. Naturally you need to apply
laquer on top.

>hope this helps.
>GK

[Arpit]

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:29:15 +0800, (Gary K)
wrote:

>Stuart Murphy > wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> What materials/process can I use to patch up:
>>
>> i) minor frame scratches
>> ii) more significant areas (several square cm)?
>>
>> Am concerned about long term rusting (though I suspect the rust won't be the
>> first thing to kill this bike, so maybe I'm concerned about it looking
>> pretty???)
>>
>> Cheers
>> Stuart
>
>For i) If the scratch isn't deep enough to catch your fingernail,
>cutting compound will get rid of it. Then finish with a fine polish, it
>will look like new.
>
>ii) An amatuer spray job never looks good (ie, from those auto paint
>spray cans, but enough for rust protection). But if thats all your
>budget stretches to, thats it. Otherwise go to custom frame builder, he
>can organise a spray.
>
If you practice, they can look very nice. Naturally you need to apply
laquer on top.

>hope this helps.
>GK

[Andrew Swan]

Stuart Murphy wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> What materials/process can I use to patch up:
>
> i) minor frame scratches
> ii) more significant areas (several square cm)?
>
> Am concerned about long term rusting (though I suspect the rust won't be the
> first thing to kill this bike, so maybe I'm concerned about it looking
> pretty???)
>
> Cheers
> Stuart

Let's say I sand, prime, spray, and lacquer my bike myself (because the
bike was cheap and so am I) - how could I apply some good-looking lettering?

Would Letraset(TM) work? Are there other suitable lettering systems?
Presumably you would stick the letters on before lacquering? Anyone
tried this or have any ideas?

TIA,

&roo

[Andrew Swan]

Stuart Murphy wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> What materials/process can I use to patch up:
>
> i) minor frame scratches
> ii) more significant areas (several square cm)?
>
> Am concerned about long term rusting (though I suspect the rust won't be the
> first thing to kill this bike, so maybe I'm concerned about it looking
> pretty???)
>
> Cheers
> Stuart

Let's say I sand, prime, spray, and lacquer my bike myself (because the
bike was cheap and so am I) - how could I apply some good-looking lettering?

Would Letraset(TM) work? Are there other suitable lettering systems?
Presumably you would stick the letters on before lacquering? Anyone
tried this or have any ideas?

TIA,

&roo

[hippy]

"Andrew Swan" > wrote in message
news:akX7b.1895
> Would Letraset(TM) work? Are there other suitable lettering systems?
> Presumably you would stick the letters on before lacquering? Anyone
> tried this or have any ideas?

Not sure of the costs, but what about vinyl "stickers"?

I've got some on by race bike with the shop's name
along the chainstays. If you got a few made up it
would reduce costs - maybe someone else knows
how much these cost?

I'd be keen to get some made if it wasn't to expensive.

hippy

[hippy]

"Andrew Swan" > wrote in message
news:akX7b.1895
> Would Letraset(TM) work? Are there other suitable lettering systems?
> Presumably you would stick the letters on before lacquering? Anyone
> tried this or have any ideas?

Not sure of the costs, but what about vinyl "stickers"?

I've got some on by race bike with the shop's name
along the chainstays. If you got a few made up it
would reduce costs - maybe someone else knows
how much these cost?

I'd be keen to get some made if it wasn't to expensive.

hippy

[Tim Jones]

"Andrew Swan" > wrote in message
...
> Stuart Murphy wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > What materials/process can I use to patch up:
> >
> > i) minor frame scratches
> > ii) more significant areas (several square cm)?
> >
> > Am concerned about long term rusting (though I suspect the rust won't be
the
> > first thing to kill this bike, so maybe I'm concerned about it looking
> > pretty???)
> >
> > Cheers
> > Stuart
>
> Let's say I sand, prime, spray, and lacquer my bike myself (because the
> bike was cheap and so am I) - how could I apply some good-looking
lettering?
>
> Would Letraset(TM) work? Are there other suitable lettering systems?
> Presumably you would stick the letters on before lacquering? Anyone
> tried this or have any ideas?
>

You could try decopaje (sp?) on the bike - would make it interesting and
you'd get in good with your aunties ;-)

Tim

[Tim Jones]

"Andrew Swan" > wrote in message
...
> Stuart Murphy wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > What materials/process can I use to patch up:
> >
> > i) minor frame scratches
> > ii) more significant areas (several square cm)?
> >
> > Am concerned about long term rusting (though I suspect the rust won't be
the
> > first thing to kill this bike, so maybe I'm concerned about it looking
> > pretty???)
> >
> > Cheers
> > Stuart
>
> Let's say I sand, prime, spray, and lacquer my bike myself (because the
> bike was cheap and so am I) - how could I apply some good-looking
lettering?
>
> Would Letraset(TM) work? Are there other suitable lettering systems?
> Presumably you would stick the letters on before lacquering? Anyone
> tried this or have any ideas?
>

You could try decopaje (sp?) on the bike - would make it interesting and
you'd get in good with your aunties ;-)

Tim

[Andrew Swan]

Tim Jones wrote:
>>Let's say I sand, prime, spray, and lacquer my bike myself (because the
>>bike was cheap and so am I) - how could I apply some good-looking
>
> lettering?
>
>>Would Letraset(TM) work? Are there other suitable lettering systems?
>>Presumably you would stick the letters on before lacquering? Anyone
>>tried this or have any ideas?
>>
>
>
> You could try decopaje (sp?) on the bike - would make it interesting and
> you'd get in good with your aunties ;-)
>
> Tim

Yes, I can see that some decoupage on my frame would really strike fear
into the hearts of the opposition on the start line!

&roo

[Andrew Swan]

Tim Jones wrote:
>>Let's say I sand, prime, spray, and lacquer my bike myself (because the
>>bike was cheap and so am I) - how could I apply some good-looking
>
> lettering?
>
>>Would Letraset(TM) work? Are there other suitable lettering systems?
>>Presumably you would stick the letters on before lacquering? Anyone
>>tried this or have any ideas?
>>
>
>
> You could try decopaje (sp?) on the bike - would make it interesting and
> you'd get in good with your aunties ;-)
>
> Tim

Yes, I can see that some decoupage on my frame would really strike fear
into the hearts of the opposition on the start line!

&roo