Re: speeding ticket

[salmoneous]

Hmmm. Interesting discussion. Keep in mind that the most likely place
to get a bicycle speeding ticket in NYC is on the roadways of Central
Park. There is a specific bicycle limit that is fairly low (something
like 25mph) and is meant to protect the joggers/bladers/little old
ladies crossing the street.

[Mark Hickey]

(salmoneous) wrote:

>Hmmm. Interesting discussion. Keep in mind that the most likely place
>to get a bicycle speeding ticket in NYC is on the roadways of Central
>Park. There is a specific bicycle limit that is fairly low (something
>like 25mph) and is meant to protect the joggers/bladers/little old
>ladies crossing the street.

I think it's 15mph (24km/h). 25mph would be way out of line for
Central Park most of the time.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame

[victor]

It's not so much the speeding tickets but the tickets for going through
lights that have been given to me on several occasions. I've also been
ticketed for biking in Washington Square Park at 7:30 AM on a cold winter
morning. Guess there bike tickets are built into the cost of living in NYC.

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victor

[Earl Camembert]

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:42:11 GMT, "victor" >
wrote:

>It's not so much the speeding tickets but the tickets for going through
>lights that have been given to me on several occasions. I've also been
>ticketed for biking in Washington Square Park at 7:30 AM on a cold winter
>morning. Guess there bike tickets are built into the cost of living in NYC.
>
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>
>victor
>
>
>

Tickets of every sort are built into NYC budget now.

[zeldabee]

Earl Camembert > wrote:
> "victor" > wrote:
>
> >It's not so much the speeding tickets but the tickets for going through
> >lights that have been given to me on several occasions. I've also been
> >ticketed for biking in Washington Square Park at 7:30 AM on a cold
> >winter morning. Guess there bike tickets are built into the cost of
> >living in NYC.
>
> Tickets of every sort are built into NYC budget now.

I never got a ticket riding in NYC, but then, I'm a boring vehicular
cyclist. Under normal circumstances, it wouldn't occur to me to ride
through Washington Square Park. I've run a light or two (though usually I
don't), but if I were caught, of course I'd get a ticket.

--
z e l d a b e e @ p a n i x . c o m http://NewsReader.Com/

[bgaudet0801]

"zeldabee" > wrote in message
...
> Earl Camembert > wrote:
> > "victor" > wrote:
> > I've also been
> > >ticketed for biking in Washington Square Park at 7:30 AM on a cold
> > >winter morning. Guess there bike tickets are built into the cost of
> > >living in NYC.
[...]
> Under normal circumstances, it wouldn't occur to me to ride
> through Washington Square Park.

Could you please enlighten a non-New Yaw-w-w-wkah: Why don't the
powers-that-be permit or wish one to bicycle this park in particular? Or
parks in general??

Granted my experience is quaintly provincial but I've never seen a
park-posted as off-limits to bikes. Some hiking trails or wildlife
preservation areas, yes - but not urban parks.

[zeldabee]

"bgaudet0801" > wrote:
> "zeldabee" > wrote...
> > Earl Camembert > wrote:
> > > "victor" > wrote:
> > > I've also been
> > > >ticketed for biking in Washington Square Park at 7:30 AM on a cold
> > > >winter morning. Guess there bike tickets are built into the cost of
> > > >living in NYC.
> [...]
> > Under normal circumstances, it wouldn't occur to me to ride
> > through Washington Square Park.
>
> Could you please enlighten a non-New Yaw-w-w-wkah: Why don't the
> powers-that-be permit or wish one to bicycle this park in particular? Or
> parks in general??

There's no place for people to ride there. It's a small park, and is full
of peds day and night. People sit around on benches, or mill around
watching buskers and whatnot.

> Granted my experience is quaintly provincial but I've never seen a
> park-posted as off-limits to bikes. Some hiking trails or wildlife
> preservation areas, yes - but not urban parks.

Actually, your question puzzles me. Larger parks, like Central and Prospect
Parks, have bike paths. Why would you want to ride around in a dinky,
crowded little park? It would take about 30 seconds to get from one end to
the other...assuming you didn't run down a ped on the way. Little children,
I can see...

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z e l d a b e e @ p a n i x . c o m http://NewsReader.Com/

[bgaudet0801]

"zeldabee" > wrote in message
...
> "bgaudet0801" > wrote:
[...]
> > Granted my experience is quaintly provincial but I've never seen a
> > park-posted as off-limits to bikes. Some hiking trails or wildlife
> > preservation areas, yes - but not urban parks.
>
> Actually, your question puzzles me. Larger parks, like Central and
Prospect
> Parks, have bike paths. Why would you want to ride around in a dinky,
> crowded little park? It would take about 30 seconds to get from one end to
> the other...assuming you didn't run down a ped on the way. Little
children,
> I can see...

That explains why one wouldn't want to ride that park as a _ride_. I use
small parks, parkettes and linking trails as transit corridors. It works
pretty well for this small city. The idea that a particular part might be
legally off-limits is surprising to me.

[Earl Camembert]

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 01:03:33 GMT, "bgaudet0801"
> wrote:

>
>"zeldabee" > wrote in message
...
>> Earl Camembert > wrote:
>> > "victor" > wrote:
>> > I've also been
>> > >ticketed for biking in Washington Square Park at 7:30 AM on a cold
>> > >winter morning. Guess there bike tickets are built into the cost of
>> > >living in NYC.
>[...]
>> Under normal circumstances, it wouldn't occur to me to ride
>> through Washington Square Park.
>
> Could you please enlighten a non-New Yaw-w-w-wkah: Why don't the
>powers-that-be permit or wish one to bicycle this park in particular? Or
>parks in general??
>
> Granted my experience is quaintly provincial but I've never seen a
>park-posted as off-limits to bikes. Some hiking trails or wildlife
>preservation areas, yes - but not urban parks.
>

The cyclists would interfere with the Negroid individuals selling pot.

[nubi]

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 01:40:27 GMT, Earl Camembert >
wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 01:03:33 GMT, "bgaudet0801"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"zeldabee" > wrote in message
...
>>> Earl Camembert > wrote:
>>> > "victor" > wrote:
>>> > I've also been
>>> > >ticketed for biking in Washington Square Park at 7:30 AM on a cold
>>> > >winter morning. Guess there bike tickets are built into the cost of
>>> > >living in NYC.
>>[...]
>>> Under normal circumstances, it wouldn't occur to me to ride
>>> through Washington Square Park.
>>
>> Could you please enlighten a non-New Yaw-w-w-wkah: Why don't the
>>powers-that-be permit or wish one to bicycle this park in particular? Or
>>parks in general??
>>
>> Granted my experience is quaintly provincial but I've never seen a
>>park-posted as off-limits to bikes. Some hiking trails or wildlife
>>preservation areas, yes - but not urban parks.
>>
>
>The cyclists would interfere with the Negroid individuals selling pot.

With all the police cameras in the park, I'm surprised anyone still
sells pot there.

[Bill Davidson]

bgaudet0801 wrote:
> That explains why one wouldn't want to ride that park as a _ride_. I use
> small parks, parkettes and linking trails as transit corridors. It works
> pretty well for this small city. The idea that a particular part might be
> legally off-limits is surprising to me.

I do this too but when I do, I slow way down--to about 5mph. There are
also some wide (15'-20') sidewalks I do this on where there is no usable
street for a few blocks (next to a trolley rail). I've ridden right past
bicycle cops and said "Hi" as I went by. I don't think it's a big problem
as long as you are going slow enough to be safe. It's stupid and dangerous
to ride fast when there's lots of pedestrians on the paths.

--Bill Davidson
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[Rick Onanian]

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 01:03:33 GMT, bgaudet0801 >
wrote:
> Could you please enlighten a non-New Yaw-w-w-wkah: Why don't the

I'm also a non-New Yaw-w-w-wkah, but I'll take
a stab at it:

> powers-that-be permit or wish one to bicycle this park in particular? Or
> parks in general??
> preservation areas, yes - but not urban parks.

In urban areas, any place is subject to abuse by
those attracted to it. Parks tend to attract people
on human powered wheels -- bicycles, skates,
skateboards.

Such people create a nuisance to the less visible,
more vocal pedestrians. Pedestrians complain, the
"parks are for people to enjoy at walking speed"
rhetoric begins, and rules are made.

In local urban, and even suburban areas, parks
and library parking lots and such commonly have
signs prohibiting skates and skateboards; I can
imagine that in super-urban areas like NYC, big
public parks might prohibit bicyclists.

--
Rick Onanian

[B.C. Cletta]

> The cyclists would interfere with the Negroid individuals selling pot.

you mean separating the fools from their money? sounds like just
another "capitalist pig yankee running dog" to me.

[Ken Bessler]

"B.C. Cletta" > wrote in message
om...
> > The cyclists would interfere with the Negroid individuals selling pot.
>
> you mean separating the fools from their money? sounds like just
> another "capitalist pig yankee running dog" to me.


Ploink!

[David Reuteler]

In rec.bicycles.misc Ken Bessler > wrote:
: Ploink!

i thought it was plonk?
--
david reuteler

[Zoot Katz]

18 Sep 2003 17:55:26 GMT,
>,
David Reuteler > wrote:

>In rec.bicycles.misc Ken Bessler > wrote:
>: Ploink!
>
>i thought it was plonk?

That too.
--
zk

[B.Wildered]

There's barely enough room for the dope dealers to ply their trade in
Washington Square Park
The little room that's left is needed for their customers to pretend to be
"hangin' out".
The dog run for the outraegeous sized apartment animals that **** there at
will take up what space is left.

Who wants to run into a dealer, doper, or dog,
or smell dog/human **** anyway!


"bgaudet0801" > wrote in message
le.rogers.com...
>
> "zeldabee" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Earl Camembert > wrote:
> > > "victor" > wrote:
> > > I've also been
> > > >ticketed for biking in Washington Square Park at 7:30 AM on a cold
> > > >winter morning. Guess there bike tickets are built into the cost of
> > > >living in NYC.
> [...]
> > Under normal circumstances, it wouldn't occur to me to ride
> > through Washington Square Park.
>
> Could you please enlighten a non-New Yaw-w-w-wkah: Why don't the
> powers-that-be permit or wish one to bicycle this park in particular? Or
> parks in general??
>
> Granted my experience is quaintly provincial but I've never seen a
> park-posted as off-limits to bikes. Some hiking trails or wildlife
> preservation areas, yes - but not urban parks.
>
>