New bike!

[the black rose]

I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.

I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!

http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4RR1Y.html

One note: the shifters/brake levers are Record, not Centaur. They said
it wasn't supposed to come that way, but it did. For the same price.

I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
model with titanium rails).

If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
it's just over 19 lbs.

I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
really, really liking this.

It will take me a bit to get used to the twitchier handling (as opposed
to my C'dale M300). And this is the first I've experienced with
clipless pedals; so far, I'm having more trouble clicking in than
clicking out, but I'd rather it be that way than the other way around --
slow down ... twist twist twist CLUNK.

:-D

Definitely a happy camper today.

-km

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[Raoul Duke]

"the black rose" > wrote in message
news:KB8Xc.171275

> Definitely a happy camper today.
>
> -km


Congrats. I recently bought both a new bike and a new car. I'm much more
excited about the new bike.

Ride the hell out of it.

Dave

[Jeff Starr]

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:50 GMT, the black rose
> wrote:

>I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>
>I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!
>
>http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4RR1Y.html
>
>One note: the shifters/brake levers are Record, not Centaur. They said
>it wasn't supposed to come that way, but it did. For the same price.
>
>I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
>model with titanium rails).
>
>If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
>lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
>it's just over 19 lbs.
>
>I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
>really, really liking this.
>
>It will take me a bit to get used to the twitchier handling (as opposed
>to my C'dale M300). And this is the first I've experienced with
>clipless pedals; so far, I'm having more trouble clicking in than
>clicking out, but I'd rather it be that way than the other way around --
>slow down ... twist twist twist CLUNK.
>
>:-D
>
>Definitely a happy camper today.
>
>-km

Hey, Congratulations!!!

It is a very nice bike and well equiped. I just put a set of Conti
Ultra Gatorskins on my LeMond. I think they are really good tires.

I would get rid of the suspension seatpost, but not worry about the
stem, unless it makes noise.

I'll bet you'll be racking up the miles now. Have fun!


Life is Good!
Jeff

[Zoot Katz]

Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:50 GMT,
>, the black rose
> wrote:

>I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>
>I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!
>
>http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4RR1Y.html
>
>One note: the shifters/brake levers are Record, not Centaur. They said
>it wasn't supposed to come that way, but it did. For the same price.
>
Excellent. You were wise to not complain!

>I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
>model with titanium rails).
>
Considering the different riding positions, I hope it works as well
for you on this bike as it does for your 'winter' bike.

>If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
>lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
>it's just over 19 lbs.
>
After you figure out where you want your stem, you seldom adjust it.
If you don't like the suspension post you can replace it.
What pedals did you get?

>I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
>really, really liking this.

I noticed the page says P,S,M,L,XL for sizes. The page with the
geometry and measurements doesn't list the "P" size which I'm assuming
means "petite". Is that what you got?
--
zk

[Beverly]

"the black rose" > wrote in message
.. .
> I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>
> I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!
>
> http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4RR1Y.html
>
> One note: the shifters/brake levers are Record, not Centaur. They said
> it wasn't supposed to come that way, but it did. For the same price.
>
> I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
> model with titanium rails).
>
> If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
> lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
> it's just over 19 lbs.
>
> I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
> really, really liking this.
>
> It will take me a bit to get used to the twitchier handling (as opposed
> to my C'dale M300). And this is the first I've experienced with
> clipless pedals; so far, I'm having more trouble clicking in than
> clicking out, but I'd rather it be that way than the other way around --
> slow down ... twist twist twist CLUNK.
>
> :-D

Nice looking bike! Congratulations.

I bought a new one earlier this season and it also was my first experience
with clipless pedals. It doesn't take too long to get familiar with them.
Everyone said I would eventually stop and forget to unclip and it finally
happened. Thankfully I was on grass and had a soft landing and there was
only one other person to witness it :) If I can use them anyone can!

Let me know how you like the Terry Butterfly. I have the Liberator and have
been thinking about putting it on another bike and buying a Butterfly for
the new one.

Enjoy the new bike.

Beverly
>
> Definitely a happy camper today.
>
> -km
>
> --
> the black rose
> proud to be owned by a yorkie
> http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts

[the black rose]

Zoot Katz wrote:
> Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:50 GMT,
> >, the black rose
> > wrote:
>>I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
>>model with titanium rails).
>>
>
> Considering the different riding positions, I hope it works as well
> for you on this bike as it does for your 'winter' bike.

Better, actually. The one on my hybrid is the cheaper Butterfly with, I
dunno, vinyl seat cover? It works well on the hybrid despite being
designed for a more laid-out riding position. I've got the Butterfly Ti
on the new bike, titanium rails and leather seat cover, and it's
amazingly comfortable.

>>If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
>>lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
>>it's just over 19 lbs.
>>
>
> After you figure out where you want your stem, you seldom adjust it.
> If you don't like the suspension post you can replace it.
> What pedals did you get?

SPD. And Diadora shoes to go with. The shoes fit like gloves, very
comfortable. I'm still getting used to the pedals. And I have to
admit, the suspension post makes for a cushier ride. I'm not so sure
I'll replace it.

>>I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
>>really, really liking this.
>
>
> I noticed the page says P,S,M,L,XL for sizes. The page with the
> geometry and measurements doesn't list the "P" size which I'm assuming
> means "petite". Is that what you got?

Yup. I dunno why they don't list P on the geometry page (annoying).
It's about like a 47 cm frame, which is about the biggest I can safely
ride, depending on the bike. And it's got braze-ons for a rear rack,
which makes light touring doable.

Another bonus is the 700C wheels -- many many bikes with frame sizes
under 50 cm come with 650C wheels to avoid toe-clip overlap, so this was
a happy surprise.

I'm actually not going to get to ride it much until next week -- we're
going out of town tomorrow to visit old friends, and today is too busy
with all the errands that need running. *sigh*

-km

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[the black rose]

Beverly wrote:
> I bought a new one earlier this season and it also was my first experience
> with clipless pedals. It doesn't take too long to get familiar with them.
> Everyone said I would eventually stop and forget to unclip and it finally
> happened. Thankfully I was on grass and had a soft landing and there was
> only one other person to witness it :)

Thanks, I'll see if I can at least be on grass when I forget, hehe. For
my last tumble, I had the dubious honor of performing in front of an
entire intersection of stopped vehicles. In retrospect, I should have
bowed when I got up.

> Let me know how you like the Terry Butterfly. I have the Liberator and have
> been thinking about putting it on another bike and buying a Butterfly for
> the new one.

I like it a lot. It's acceptably comfortable on the hybrid and dreamy
on the new bike.

FWIW, he's sold them to about 10 or 11 women recently, and all but 2
loved it. So I'd say that if your personal geometry is like the
majority of women, you'll get along with the Butterfly. In this area,
the Butterfly Ti is about $100 and the less expensive one is about $60.

> Enjoy the new bike.

Thanks, and same to you with yours. If you try the Butterfly, please
let me know how it worked out for you. And if your LBS knows you, see
if they'll let you borrow a Butterfly for a day to test ride it (my LBS
does that with people they know). How's the Liberator? I'd have gotten
that one for the hybrid if there had been any in stock.

-km

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[Zoot Katz]

Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:48:38 GMT,
>, the black rose
> wrote:

>> Considering the different riding positions, I hope it works as well
>> for you on this bike as it does for your 'winter' bike.
>
>Better, actually. The one on my hybrid is the cheaper Butterfly with, I
>dunno, vinyl seat cover? It works well on the hybrid despite being
>designed for a more laid-out riding position. I've got the Butterfly Ti
>on the new bike, titanium rails and leather seat cover, and it's
>amazingly comfortable.

I wish I could be as passionate about my Terry mens' saddle. It's
pretty with a white leather cover and titanium rails. It reminds me of
a spitted marshmallow ready for toasting. I bought it because it looks
like the epitome of bike cheese. I really do like it and for short
distances on an upright bike it's been okay. It's just too squishy,
and a bit wide, for my Helvetic fixie it was intended to crown.
--
zk

[gooserider]

"the black rose" > wrote in message
.. .
> I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>
>
Nice choice! Cannondales are excellent bikes. Going with Campy Record
definitely gets you Fabrizio points, too.

[the black rose]

gooserider wrote:
> "the black rose" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
>>I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>>
>>
>
> Nice choice! Cannondales are excellent bikes. Going with Campy Record
> definitely gets you Fabrizio points, too.

*raspberry* Please don't attract his attention. I'm one of those
riders that Fab probably thinks should be prohibited by law from even
owning a bike.

-km

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[Beverly]

"the black rose" > wrote in message
. ..
> Beverly wrote:
> > I bought a new one earlier this season and it also was my first
experience
> > with clipless pedals. It doesn't take too long to get familiar with
them.
> > Everyone said I would eventually stop and forget to unclip and it
finally
> > happened. Thankfully I was on grass and had a soft landing and there
was
> > only one other person to witness it :)
>
> Thanks, I'll see if I can at least be on grass when I forget, hehe. For
> my last tumble, I had the dubious honor of performing in front of an
> entire intersection of stopped vehicles. In retrospect, I should have
> bowed when I got up.
>
> > Let me know how you like the Terry Butterfly. I have the Liberator and
have
> > been thinking about putting it on another bike and buying a Butterfly
for
> > the new one.
>
> I like it a lot. It's acceptably comfortable on the hybrid and dreamy
> on the new bike.
>
> FWIW, he's sold them to about 10 or 11 women recently, and all but 2
> loved it. So I'd say that if your personal geometry is like the
> majority of women, you'll get along with the Butterfly. In this area,
> the Butterfly Ti is about $100 and the less expensive one is about $60.
>
> > Enjoy the new bike.
>
> Thanks, and same to you with yours. If you try the Butterfly, please
> let me know how it worked out for you. And if your LBS knows you, see
> if they'll let you borrow a Butterfly for a day to test ride it (my LBS
> does that with people they know). How's the Liberator? I'd have gotten
> that one for the hybrid if there had been any in stock.
>
> -km
>
> --
I like the Liberator. I had it on one of my hybrids before I switched it to
the new road bike. I have another Terry saddle (Chubby Cheeks) on another
bike. Now who in there right mind wants to be seen riding a bike with that
name written on the saddle even if it's comfortable :)

Beverly






> the black rose
> proud to be owned by a yorkie
> http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts

[KD]

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:39:57 GMT, "Beverly" >
wrote:
>>
>> --
>I like the Liberator. I had it on one of my hybrids before I switched it to
>the new road bike. I have another Terry saddle (Chubby Cheeks) on another
>bike. Now who in there right mind wants to be seen riding a bike with that
>name written on the saddle even if it's comfortable :)

OK, I've not ridden any of the Terry seats, as they don't fit MY
anatomy, but my SO has ridden the Liberator, Butterfly and Damsel Fly.
One problem with the Liberator is that over time (4000+ miles) they
can become 'swayback'. She had the Liberator on a couple bikes, and
when it was time for a new saddle, decided to try the Damsel Fly,
which is a race saddle. We ride mostly supported and unsupported rides
of 50-100 miles, and the Damsel Fly was WAY to hard for her. At about
the same time, her friend tried a Butterfly, which she found too hard.
My SO ended up with the Butterfly, which she likes, and her friend
with another Linerator.

OTOH, I've favored a very narrow Fizik Pave. I just picked up a (used)
Brooks Professional that I'm going to be tryigng out. I have fat
(err.. muscular, yeah that's it) thighs, so one of my problems is
with them rubbing on the nose of the seat, which is why I like the
Fizik. OTOH, the Fizik is only comfy for about 60 miles, at which
point it turns into a pretty good torture device. :P

YSaddleMV, Ken

[Beverly]

"KD" <kmorton.at.dsl-only.net@> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:39:57 GMT, "Beverly" >
> wrote:
> >>
> >> --
> >I like the Liberator. I had it on one of my hybrids before I switched it
to
> >the new road bike. I have another Terry saddle (Chubby Cheeks) on
another
> >bike. Now who in there right mind wants to be seen riding a bike with
that
> >name written on the saddle even if it's comfortable :)
>
> OK, I've not ridden any of the Terry seats, as they don't fit MY
> anatomy, but my SO has ridden the Liberator, Butterfly and Damsel Fly.
> One problem with the Liberator is that over time (4000+ miles) they
> can become 'swayback'. She had the Liberator on a couple bikes, and
> when it was time for a new saddle, decided to try the Damsel Fly,
> which is a race saddle. We ride mostly supported and unsupported rides
> of 50-100 miles, and the Damsel Fly was WAY to hard for her. At about
> the same time, her friend tried a Butterfly, which she found too hard.
> My SO ended up with the Butterfly, which she likes, and her friend
> with another Linerator.
>
> OTOH, I've favored a very narrow Fizik Pave. I just picked up a (used)
> Brooks Professional that I'm going to be tryigng out. I have fat
> (err.. muscular, yeah that's it) thighs, so one of my problems is
> with them rubbing on the nose of the seat, which is why I like the
> Fizik. OTOH, the Fizik is only comfy for about 60 miles, at which
> point it turns into a pretty good torture device. :P
>
> YSaddleMV, Ken

I agree - we all need to use the saddle that feels good to us. The new bike
came with a Bontrager CRZ road saddle and it felt like I was sitting on a
board. I don't have much of that 'muscle' in the seat area so I need a
little padding on the seat<g>

Beverly

[the black rose]

Beverly wrote:
> I like the Liberator. I had it on one of my hybrids before I switched it to
> the new road bike. I have another Terry saddle (Chubby Cheeks) on another
> bike. Now who in there right mind wants to be seen riding a bike with that
> name written on the saddle even if it's comfortable :)

*snorfle* You know, I did a search on the Terry web site and couldn't
find the Chubby Cheeks. I guess they renamed it. Or something. :-)

Speaking of that reminds me, I managed to get a 25 minute ride in
yesterday amongst all the leaving-town errands, and the son I was riding
with calls out, "Hey Mom! There's not as much fat squished up on your
butt!"

Well, he *meant* it as a compliment. *sigh*

-km

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[Beverly]

"the black rose" > wrote in message
...
> Beverly wrote:
> > I like the Liberator. I had it on one of my hybrids before I switched
it to
> > the new road bike. I have another Terry saddle (Chubby Cheeks) on
another
> > bike. Now who in there right mind wants to be seen riding a bike with
that
> > name written on the saddle even if it's comfortable :)
>
> *snorfle* You know, I did a search on the Terry web site and couldn't
> find the Chubby Cheeks. I guess they renamed it. Or something. :-)


I can see why they would rename it<g> It is comfortable. I have it on a
hybrid my granddaughters ride.

http://www.mtbreview.com/reviews/Saddle/product_79083.shtml

>
> Speaking of that reminds me, I managed to get a 25 minute ride in
> yesterday amongst all the leaving-town errands, and the son I was riding
> with calls out, "Hey Mom! There's not as much fat squished up on your
> butt!"
>
> Well, he *meant* it as a compliment. *sigh*
>
Kids :)



> -km
>
> --
> the black rose
> proud to be owned by a yorkie
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[maxo]

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:50 +0000, the black rose wrote:

> I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>
> I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!
>
> http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4RR1Y.html

Looks very smart. :D

Nice to see that it supports fatter rubber and fenders if need be. More
bikes should come with long reach brakes like that.

I like the choice of 700x25 tires in the specs, a very sensible size for
most folks.

How's the ride? I haven't ridden a Cannondale since the 80s and remember
them as being a joy for climbing, but a bit stiff for long ride comfort,
I'm sure they've come a long way in 20 years. ;)

[the black rose]

maxo wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:50 +0000, the black rose wrote:
>
>
>>I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>>
>>I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!
>>
>>http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4RR1Y.html
>
>
> Looks very smart. :D
>
> Nice to see that it supports fatter rubber and fenders if need be. More
> bikes should come with long reach brakes like that.
>
> I like the choice of 700x25 tires in the specs, a very sensible size for
> most folks.
>
> How's the ride? I haven't ridden a Cannondale since the 80s and remember
> them as being a joy for climbing, but a bit stiff for long ride comfort,
> I'm sure they've come a long way in 20 years. ;)

I'm not sure I have the wherewithal to compare. All road bikes seem
twitchy and road-chattery after my heavy, heavy hybrid; it's been 30
years since I last had a road bike. I can say that my new bike is a joy
to ride, though. :-)

-km

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[the black rose]

maxo wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:50 +0000, the black rose wrote:
>
>
>>I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>>
>>I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!
>>
>>http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4RR1Y.html
>
>
> Looks very smart. :D
>
> Nice to see that it supports fatter rubber and fenders if need be. More
> bikes should come with long reach brakes like that.
>
> I like the choice of 700x25 tires in the specs, a very sensible size for
> most folks.
>
> How's the ride? I haven't ridden a Cannondale since the 80s and remember
> them as being a joy for climbing, but a bit stiff for long ride comfort,
> I'm sure they've come a long way in 20 years. ;)

I'm not sure I have the wherewithal to compare. All road bikes seem
twitchy and road-chattery after my heavy, heavy hybrid; it's been 30
years since I last had a road bike. I can say that my new bike is a joy
to ride, though. :-)

-km

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[Claire Petersky]

"maxo" > wrote in message
. ..
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:50 +0000, the black rose wrote:
>
> > I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
> >
> > I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!
> >
> > http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4RR1Y.html
>
> Looks very smart. :D
>
> Nice to see that it supports fatter rubber and fenders if need be. More
> bikes should come with long reach brakes like that.

I agree. I've nearly decided I need to go custom to get a road bike that
doesn't weigh a ton, will accomodate my short torso, has decent components,
and will accomodate fenders.


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[Claire Petersky]

"maxo" > wrote in message
. ..
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:50 +0000, the black rose wrote:
>
> > I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
> >
> > I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!
> >
> > http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4RR1Y.html
>
> Looks very smart. :D
>
> Nice to see that it supports fatter rubber and fenders if need be. More
> bikes should come with long reach brakes like that.

I agree. I've nearly decided I need to go custom to get a road bike that
doesn't weigh a ton, will accomodate my short torso, has decent components,
and will accomodate fenders.


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