Re: TTT

[David Ryan]

jc6239 wrote:
>
> > If the Posties are leading the TTT in the final klick, will Johan order
> Victor to take 6th position, 5 seconds or so behind the number 5 man?<
>
> Not a chance. Why in gods name would he want Lance in Yellow (and the need
> to defend it) before the mountains?

You don't think they will lift a finger to defend Peña's jersey?
They won't kill themselves but it's not all about Lance.

[Kurgan Gringioni]

"David Ryan" > wrote in message
...
> jc6239 wrote:
> >
> > > If the Posties are leading the TTT in the final klick, will Johan
order
> > Victor to take 6th position, 5 seconds or so behind the number 5 man?<
> >
> > Not a chance. Why in gods name would he want Lance in Yellow (and the
need
> > to defend it) before the mountains?
>
> You don't think they will lift a finger to defend Peña's jersey?



At best, they'll pretend.

Remember when Bruyneel played chicken w/ Telekom the year Kivilev and
company gained 35 minutes?

[Tom Nakashima]

It might be nice to see Hincapie in an "HD" Maillot Jaune, think he paid his
dues more than once.
-tom

"Bobb Head" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> David Ryan > wrote:
>
> > jc6239 wrote:
> > >
> > > > If the Posties are leading the TTT in the final klick, will Johan
order
> > > Victor to take 6th position, 5 seconds or so behind the number 5
man?<
> > >
> > > Not a chance. Why in gods name would he want Lance in Yellow (and the
need
> > > to defend it) before the mountains?
> >
> > You don't think they will lift a finger to defend Peña's jersey?
> > They won't kill themselves but it's not all about Lance.
>
> Here's what I want to know...
>
> Will Johan encourage Ekimov and Hincapie, both just 5 seconds behind, to
> finish an intermediate sprint 1-2 in tomorrow, and reverse those results
> the next day? That would honor the spirit of teamwork by sharing the
> yellow jersey without placing Lance in the crosshairs. Focusing on,
> say, the first sprint would leave two sprints and the race finish for
> green jersey contenders, but it would mean containing early breakaways.
>
> -- Bobb

[Tom Nakashima]

Yea, well I was thinking of the sprint bonus points;
-6, -4, -2 secs. for 1st, 2nd & 3rd. Send Hincapie with the breakaways,
keep Ekimov with the team.
-tom

"Steve McGinty" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:50:24 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
> > wrote:
>
> >It might be nice to see Hincapie in an "HD" Maillot Jaune, think he paid
his
> >dues more than once.
> >-tom
> >
> >"Bobb Head" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> In article >,
> >> David Ryan > wrote:
> >>
> >> > jc6239 wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > If the Posties are leading the TTT in the final klick, will Johan
> >order
> >> > > Victor to take 6th position, 5 seconds or so behind the number 5
> >man?<
> >> > >
> >> > > Not a chance. Why in gods name would he want Lance in Yellow (and
the
> >need
> >> > > to defend it) before the mountains?
> >> >
> >> > You don't think they will lift a finger to defend Peña's jersey?
> >> > They won't kill themselves but it's not all about Lance.
> >>
> >> Here's what I want to know...
> >>
> >> Will Johan encourage Ekimov and Hincapie, both just 5 seconds behind,
to
> >> finish an intermediate sprint 1-2 in tomorrow, and reverse those
results
> >> the next day? That would honor the spirit of teamwork by sharing the
> >> yellow jersey without placing Lance in the crosshairs. Focusing on,
> >> say, the first sprint would leave two sprints and the race finish for
> >> green jersey contenders, but it would mean containing early breakaways.
> >>
> >> -- Bobb
> >
> The point of the TTT was to show they are strongest team and to gain
> what time they could on the other GC contestants. The interesting
> difference this year is that the mountains come so early and rather
> than orchestrate a "minions" break over the next couple of days USP
> might want to hold the jersey from now to the end. If so they'll
> employ a K.I.S.S. approach and won't be sharing it around.
>
> Regards!
> Stephen

[Tom Nakashima]

who says you have to win those sprints?
finishing 3rd in three will do it, and finishing 3rd in two might be enough,
providing
Pena loses -1 sec. Lance and George in yellow?
-tom

"Raptor" > wrote in message ...
> Bobb Head wrote:
> >
> > Here's what I want to know...
> >
> > Will Johan encourage Ekimov and Hincapie, both just 5 seconds behind, to
> > finish an intermediate sprint 1-2 in tomorrow, and reverse those results
> > the next day? That would honor the spirit of teamwork by sharing the
> > yellow jersey without placing Lance in the crosshairs. Focusing on,
> > say, the first sprint would leave two sprints and the race finish for
> > green jersey contenders, but it would mean containing early breakaways.
> >
> > -- Bobb
>
> Can either of them expect to win those sprints? Not from what I know.
>
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[Stewart Fleming]

Bobb Head wrote:

> Will Johan encourage Ekimov and Hincapie, both just 5 seconds behind, to
> finish an intermediate sprint 1-2 in tomorrow, and reverse those results
> the next day? That would honor the spirit of teamwork by sharing the

No.

[Stewart Fleming]

Tom Nakashima wrote:
> Yea, well I was thinking of the sprint bonus points;
> -6, -4, -2 secs. for 1st, 2nd & 3rd. Send Hincapie with the breakaways,
> keep Ekimov with the team.

Then McEwen's and Zabel's teams would chase immediately. You'd end up
with a stage where there was no long breakaway, more frequent attacks
and a situation that would be HARDER for USPS to control.

[Bill Davidson]

Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> I was surprised - I thought that only die-hard fans would appreciate TTT.

A friend of mine who knows nothing about cycling also mentioned finding
the TTT the most interesting.

--Bill Davidson
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[K. J. Papai]

Bill Davidson > wrote in message news:<50tQa.1801$Ze.451@fed1read03>...
> Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> > I was surprised - I thought that only die-hard fans would appreciate TTT.
>
> A friend of mine who knows nothing about cycling also mentioned finding
> the TTT the most interesting.

My wife likes the TTT a lot too. Gets to see all those
nicely colored outfits doing a nice, 9-way dance on the asphalt.

(I hope Liggett steals my words and that Bobke doesn't)

-KJP