Re: Ken Bird

[Edward Dolan]

"Simon Brooke" > wrote in message
...
> in message >, JohnB ')
> wrote:
>
>> He recalled his times as a mechanic on the Tour
>> de France when he accompanied some of the earliest British riders to
>> compete. Later he was a great supporter of road-records with his
>> trade-mark white frames with black decals. I think E2E'er Woodburn
>> rode one of his tandems with Patson in many record attempts.
>
> When I was a kid in Kirkcudbright the bike shop was kept by a man called
> Wullie Law. He was patient and informative and taught me a great deal
> of what I know about fixing bikes. The shop is still there, now run by
> his grand-daughter, and still sells a few bikes. It wasn't until long
> after the old man was dead that I was told that he'd ridden the Tour. I
> still don't know how to verify whether this is true. But if it is I'm
> even more astounded by how modest a man he was.

So he rode the Tour. So what. If he was modest about it he had it right. It
is something to be modest about. All this hoopla about the Tour is total
insanity. It is disgusting the way some cyclists carry on about the g.d.
Tour. After all, it is a French thing and we all know what the French are
worth -traitors to Western Civilization.

What the French do best is stab others in the back. Any praise for the Tour
sickens me as does any reflection on the nation of France. They are a nation
of whores and were in bed with Sadaam Hussein. Please, spare me any crapolla
about the ****ing Tour.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

[Keith Willoughby]

David Hansen wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:36:14 -0600 someone who may be "Edward Dolan"
> > wrote this:-
>
>>So he rode the Tour. So what. If he was modest about it he had it right. It
>>is something to be modest about. All this hoopla about the Tour is total
>>insanity. It is disgusting the way some cyclists carry on about the g.d.
>>Tour.
>
> Making a few assumptions, in the days of the grandfather mentioned
> by the other person it was not the mass media event it is now. There
> were no backup vans full of bikes. Take a look at photographs of
> people riding with spare inner tubes round their necks and imagine
> what it was like.

One guy early on was disqualified after admitting that he got a child to
work the bellows while he fixed his forks at a smithy. No assistance was
allowed of any kind.

--
Keith Willoughby http://flat222.org/keith/
"Living in a jungle, living in a tent. Better than a prefab - no rent."

[dkahn400]

Keith Willoughby wrote:

> One guy early on was disqualified after admitting that he got a child
> to work the bellows while he fixed his forks at a smithy. No
> assistance was allowed of any kind.

Eugene Christophe. He wasn't disqualified, just given an extra time
penalty to add to the time he'd spent walking 14k to the blacksmith,
then repairing his forks at the forge.

It was his name on the superb springy toe clips that dominated the
market for decades.

--
Dave...

[Simon Brooke]

in message om>,
dkahn400 ') wrote:

> Keith Willoughby wrote:
>
>> One guy early on was disqualified after admitting that he got a child
>> to work the bellows while he fixed his forks at a smithy. No
>> assistance was allowed of any kind.
>
> Eugene Christophe. He wasn't disqualified, just given an extra time
> penalty to add to the time he'd spent walking 14k to the blacksmith,
> then repairing his forks at the forge.
>
> It was his name on the superb springy toe clips that dominated the
> market for decades.

H'mmm! I still have a pair of those. Was it actually his firm, or did he
sell his name to someone?

--
(Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

'Victories are not solutions.'
;; John Hume, Northern Irish politician, on Radio Scotland 1/2/95
;; Nobel Peace Prize laureate 1998; few have deserved it so much

[Edward Dolan]

"David Hansen" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:48:59 -0600 someone who may be "Edward Dolan"
> > wrote this:-
>
>>I would never bother to read any of this liberal propaganda and
>>essentially
>>treasonous rubbish.
>
> How do you know that if you don't bother to read it?
>
>>You must think I was born yesterday.
>
> I have no thoughts on the matter.
>
>>Thanks for the good laugh!
>
> How can you laugh at something you say you have not read.

I am laughing at your foolishness at thinking I would be stupid enough to
read anything a liberal like you would recommend to me.

You Brits have all been brainwashed by the BBC and the rest of your news
media. What else do I have to know? I do know that most of you on this
newsgroup (uk.rec.cycling)) do not deserve to have a great man like Tony
Blair as your PM. You deserve a Chirac.

The BBC is excellent for music (classical), but you never want to listen to
their analysis of the news. That is how empires are lost. You do not ever
want to lie with the French either - a fate worse than death. They are all
whores and will give you terrible diseases which will eat away at your groin
and rot your brain.

If any of you in the UK are starting to get the idea that we Americans do
not appreciate la belle France, then you are up to speed. However, if you
think that la belle France was ever right or moral about anything in the
past century or so, then it is back to the idiot bin with you. May you stay
there forever and not bother us Americans further with positive opinions on
la belle France.

My mind is made up on the matter and all the contrary reading references in
the world are not going to change it one bit. My mind is a steel bear trap
and it is CLOSED. It is impervious to treasonous liberal propaganda.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

[McTavish]

Edward Dolan wrote:

> My mind is made up on the matter and all the contrary reading
> references in the world are not going to change it one bit. My mind
> is a steel bear trap and it is CLOSED. It is impervious to treasonous
> liberal propaganda.

And also to rational argument, logic and plenty of other things which serve
to distinguish an intelligent person from a narrow-minded bigot.

But then we knew that.

--

McTavish the Unmentionable

[Edward Dolan]

"McTavish" > wrote in message
...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>> My mind is made up on the matter and all the contrary reading
>> references in the world are not going to change it one bit. My mind
>> is a steel bear trap and it is CLOSED. It is impervious to treasonous
>> liberal propaganda.
>
> And also to rational argument, logic and plenty of other things which
> serve
> to distinguish an intelligent person from a narrow-minded bigot.

I do not need to keep reviewing unmitigated liberal rot and rubbish forever
to know what I think about something. Show me an open mind and I will show
you no mind at all.

> But then we knew that.

Well, I think we know that McTavish is an asshole. Is there anything else we
need to know about him. I have an open mind on that, but I only want to hear
bad things about him. My mind is CLOSED to anything good about him. See how
easy it is to make up your mind.

Has anyone in the entire history of the world ever had anything good to say
about the Scotch. They rank right along with the French for all around
assholeness.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

[Tom Sherman]

McTavish wrote:

> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>
>>My mind is made up on the matter and all the contrary reading
>>references in the world are not going to change it one bit. My mind
>>is a steel bear trap and it is CLOSED. It is impervious to treasonous
>>liberal propaganda.
>
>
> And also to rational argument, logic and plenty of other things which serve
> to distinguish an intelligent person from a narrow-minded bigot.
>
> But then we knew that.

One day a lonely Minnesota troll was sitting under his bridge feeling
quite bored. Then he discovered Usenet cycling forums. ;)

--
Tom Sherman - Earth

[David]

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:53:49 -0600, Tom Sherman wrote:

> McTavish wrote:
>
>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My mind is made up on the matter and all the contrary reading
>>>references in the world are not going to change it one bit. My mind
>>>is a steel bear trap and it is CLOSED. It is impervious to treasonous
>>>liberal propaganda.
>>
>>
>> And also to rational argument, logic and plenty of other things which serve
>> to distinguish an intelligent person from a narrow-minded bigot.
>>
>> But then we knew that.
>
> One day a lonely Minnesota troll was sitting under his bridge feeling
> quite bored. Then he discovered Usenet cycling forums. ;)

And Usenet cycling forums have been unhappy ever since.

[x]

Boy Ed,

You sure seem to have it in for the French. I don't think most Americans
hated them so much when they helped you win your war of indepenence from
Britain. But that was some time ago now wasn't it. We (in Canada) have our
own issues with the French. It's called French-Canadians. Even the French
don't like them. It's the main reason we want to decriminalize marijuana.

"Edward Dolan" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Simon Brooke" > wrote in message
> ...
>> in message >, JohnB ')
>> wrote:
>>
>>> He recalled his times as a mechanic on the Tour
>>> de France when he accompanied some of the earliest British riders to
>>> compete. Later he was a great supporter of road-records with his
>>> trade-mark white frames with black decals. I think E2E'er Woodburn
>>> rode one of his tandems with Patson in many record attempts.
>>
>> When I was a kid in Kirkcudbright the bike shop was kept by a man called
>> Wullie Law. He was patient and informative and taught me a great deal
>> of what I know about fixing bikes. The shop is still there, now run by
>> his grand-daughter, and still sells a few bikes. It wasn't until long
>> after the old man was dead that I was told that he'd ridden the Tour. I
>> still don't know how to verify whether this is true. But if it is I'm
>> even more astounded by how modest a man he was.
>
> So he rode the Tour. So what. If he was modest about it he had it right.
> It is something to be modest about. All this hoopla about the Tour is
> total insanity. It is disgusting the way some cyclists carry on about the
> g.d. Tour. After all, it is a French thing and we all know what the French
> are worth -traitors to Western Civilization.
>
> What the French do best is stab others in the back. Any praise for the
> Tour sickens me as does any reflection on the nation of France. They are a
> nation of whores and were in bed with Sadaam Hussein. Please, spare me any
> crapolla about the ****ing Tour.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
>

[Edward Dolan]

"x" > wrote in message news:hgDKd.75663$Qb.31511@edtnps89...
> Boy Ed,
>
> You sure seem to have it in for the French. I don't think most Americans
> hated them so much when they helped you win your war of indepenence from
> Britain. But that was some time ago now wasn't it. We (in Canada) have our
> own issues with the French. It's called French-Canadians. Even the French
> don't like them. It's the main reason we want to decriminalize marijuana.

X, don't get me going on the French. My doctor has told me that I cannot
afford to get upset because of my high blood pressure. I am taking lots of
medication to keep it down, but every time I think of the French I can feel
it going up. I will blow a gasket if I am not careful.

The French only pretend to be civilized. They actually are not civilized at
all. No, I leave the g.d. French to the g.d. French. Let them sort
themselves out. I am done with them.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota


>
> "Edward Dolan" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Simon Brooke" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> in message >, JohnB ')
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> He recalled his times as a mechanic on the Tour
>>>> de France when he accompanied some of the earliest British riders to
>>>> compete. Later he was a great supporter of road-records with his
>>>> trade-mark white frames with black decals. I think E2E'er Woodburn
>>>> rode one of his tandems with Patson in many record attempts.
>>>
>>> When I was a kid in Kirkcudbright the bike shop was kept by a man called
>>> Wullie Law. He was patient and informative and taught me a great deal
>>> of what I know about fixing bikes. The shop is still there, now run by
>>> his grand-daughter, and still sells a few bikes. It wasn't until long
>>> after the old man was dead that I was told that he'd ridden the Tour. I
>>> still don't know how to verify whether this is true. But if it is I'm
>>> even more astounded by how modest a man he was.
>>
>> So he rode the Tour. So what. If he was modest about it he had it right.
>> It is something to be modest about. All this hoopla about the Tour is
>> total insanity. It is disgusting the way some cyclists carry on about the
>> g.d. Tour. After all, it is a French thing and we all know what the
>> French are worth -traitors to Western Civilization.
>>
>> What the French do best is stab others in the back. Any praise for the
>> Tour sickens me as does any reflection on the nation of France. They are
>> a nation of whores and were in bed with Sadaam Hussein. Please, spare me
>> any crapolla about the ****ing Tour.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>
>>
>
>

[Tony W]

"Edward Dolan" > wrote in message
...

>
> X, don't get me going on the French. My doctor has told me that I cannot
> afford to get upset because of my high blood pressure. I am taking lots of
> medication to keep it down, but every time I think of the French I can
feel
> it going up. I will blow a gasket if I am not careful.

Well you better be careful then. It would be such a shame if you die and
took your ojectionable views with you.

> The French only pretend to be civilized. They actually are not civilized
at
> all.

This is rich coming from and American. By most measures I am sure the
French are more civilised and cutured than Americans. They even have a
democratic electoralsystem and a love of liberty -- neither strong in the
good old USA.

> No, I leave the g.d. French to the g.d. French. Let them sort
> themselves out. I am done with them.

I am sure they will be delighted to hear it. Can you be done with this NG
as well now.

T

[Tom Sherman]

Tony W wrote:

> "Edward Dolan" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
>>X, don't get me going on the French. My doctor has told me that I cannot
>>afford to get upset because of my high blood pressure. I am taking lots of
>>medication to keep it down, but every time I think of the French I can
>
> feel
>
>>it going up. I will blow a gasket if I am not careful.
>
>
> Well you better be careful then. It would be such a shame if you die and
> took your ojectionable views with you.
>
>
>>The French only pretend to be civilized. They actually are not civilized
>
> at
>
>>all.
>
>
> This is rich coming from and American. By most measures I am sure the
> French are more civilised and cutured than Americans. They even have a
> democratic electoralsystem and a love of liberty -- neither strong in the
> good old USA....

Can we please eliminate the one of the remaining travesties the French
have imposed on the world - the French tire sizing system?

It is not that difficult to say ISO 622-mm and ISO 571-mm instead of
700C and 650C.

Strike a blow for logical consistency!

--
Tom Sherman - Earth

[Arne]

..
"Tony W" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Edward Dolan" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>> X, don't get me going on the French. My doctor has told me that I cannot
>> afford to get upset because of my high blood pressure. I am taking lots
>> of
>> medication to keep it down, but every time I think of the French I can
> feel
>> it going up. I will blow a gasket if I am not careful.
>
> Well you better be careful then. It would be such a shame if you die and
> took your ojectionable views with you.
>
>> The French only pretend to be civilized. They actually are not civilized
> at
>> all.
>
> This is rich coming from and American. By most measures I am sure the
> French are more civilised and cutured than Americans. They even have a
> democratic electoralsystem and a love of liberty -- neither strong in the
> good old USA.
>
>> No, I leave the g.d. French to the g.d. French. Let them sort
>> themselves out. I am done with them.
>
> I am sure they will be delighted to hear it. Can you be done with this NG
> as well now.
>
> T
>
>
Ah, the French. Very cultured.... now, if they could only learn to defend
themselves and not collaborate with the enemy....

Arne, bottom posting rules.....

[Simon Brooke]

in message >, Edward Dolan
') wrote:

> "x" > wrote in message news:hgDKd.75663$Qb.31511@edtnps89...
>> Boy Ed,
>>
>> You sure seem to have it in for the French. I don't think most
>> Americans hated them so much when they helped you win your war of
>> indepenence from Britain. But that was some time ago now wasn't it.
>> We (in Canada) have our own issues with the French. It's called
>> French-Canadians. Even the French don't like them. It's the main
>> reason we want to decriminalize marijuana.
>
> X, don't get me going on the French. My doctor has told me that I
> cannot afford to get upset because of my high blood pressure.

Well, the French were right about the weapons of mass destruction,
weren't they? And they were right about Vietnam, too, come to think of
it... Yes, great people, the French. A real understanding of diplomacy
and realpolitik. Also intelligent, thoughtful, cultured, artistic and
creative. They also know quite a bit about cycling. In summary, about
as different from Minnesotans as it is possible to get.

> I am
> taking lots of medication to keep it down, but every time I think of
> the French I can feel it going up. I will blow a gasket if I am not
> careful.

Oh, how dreadful for you.

Have I told you how much I admire and respect the French?

--
(Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; When your hammer is C++, everything begins to look like a thumb.

[Edward Dolan]

"Simon Brooke" > wrote in message
...
> in message >, Edward Dolan
> ') wrote:
>
>> "x" > wrote in message news:hgDKd.75663$Qb.31511@edtnps89...
>>> Boy Ed,
>>>
>>> You sure seem to have it in for the French. I don't think most
>>> Americans hated them so much when they helped you win your war of
>>> indepenence from Britain. But that was some time ago now wasn't it.
>>> We (in Canada) have our own issues with the French. It's called
>>> French-Canadians. Even the French don't like them. It's the main
>>> reason we want to decriminalize marijuana.
>>
>> X, don't get me going on the French. My doctor has told me that I
>> cannot afford to get upset because of my high blood pressure.
>
> Well, the French were right about the weapons of mass destruction,
> weren't they? And they were right about Vietnam, too, come to think of
> it... Yes, great people, the French. A real understanding of diplomacy
> and realpolitik. Also intelligent, thoughtful, cultured, artistic and
> creative. They also know quite a bit about cycling. In summary, about
> as different from Minnesotans as it is possible to get.

Realpolitik is perfectly acceptable. All nations do it. But it should never
be done at the expense of core values - and the French are always doing
precisely that. Sometimes the French are not much better than the Nazis.
What was Napoleon if not another Hitler. The French would liked to have done
what Hitler did (conquer Europe), but they were too feckless and screwed up
to manage it.

Did you not read my post where I said the French only pretend to be
civilized. They aren't of course. They have always been pigs and about on
the level of Nazi Germany. May the Devil take them!

By the way, did you not know that Minnesota is part of the Heartland of
America?

>> I am
>> taking lots of medication to keep it down, but every time I think of
>> the French I can feel it going up. I will blow a gasket if I am not
>> careful.
>
> Oh, how dreadful for you.
>
> Have I told you how much I admire and respect the French?

Simon sounds like a French name to me, so that would explain your lack of
discrimination. You ought to emigrate to that pig sty known as France. I am
sure the English would be glad to get rid of you. An Englishman who admires
and respects the French is a contradiction in terms. It is what is known as
an oxymoron.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

[Edward Dolan]

"Al Luminium" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Simon Brooke" > wrote in message
> ...
>> in message >, Edward Dolan
>> ') wrote:
>>
>>> "x" > wrote in message news:hgDKd.75663$Qb.31511@edtnps89...
>>>> Boy Ed,
>>>>
>>>> You sure seem to have it in for the French. I don't think most
>>>> Americans hated them so much when they helped you win your war of
>>>> indepenence from Britain. But that was some time ago now wasn't it.
>>>> We (in Canada) have our own issues with the French. It's called
>>>> French-Canadians. Even the French don't like them. It's the main
>>>> reason we want to decriminalize marijuana.
>>>
>>> X, don't get me going on the French. My doctor has told me that I
>>> cannot afford to get upset because of my high blood pressure.
>>
>> Well, the French were right about the weapons of mass destruction,
>> weren't they? And they were right about Vietnam,
>>snip

Just to remind everyone, the French have never been right about anything -
ever! Even the French Revolution was all screwed up. The English managed to
reform their monarchy much better. The French are nothing but eternal ****
ups.

> What year did DIEN BIEN PHU (sp?) become part of the French vocabulary?
> It should be a reminder of getting their asses kicked out of Vietnam by
> the North Vietnamese.

Anyone can look up the correct spelling of a place name if they so choose.
It is enough to spell English place names correctly. I am not ever going to
bother much with Asian languages, especially not for the kind of numskulls
that populate newsgroups.

The French deserved to get their asses kicked out of Vietnam, but South
Vietnam did not deserve to come under the Communist yoke. If the US had
showed a bit more staying power it would never have happened. Those who
think it was OK for North Vietnam to prevail have blood on their hands and
are despicable beyond measure.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

[Stan Vinson]

Re: Recumbent Racer Glen Drury sets course record
That is quite an impressive accomplishment. Who is the rider and what bike did he ride? Was he in a F-40?

Stan Vinson
P38


.................................................. .................... .................................................. .......
Recumbent cycles entered the 400km cycle for the first time (as a separate category), with Glen Druryclocking the impressive time of 11:57:37. With the popularity of the recumbents, the race is likely to be open next year to other specialist cyclists (all scored in different categories). Of the regular cyclists, the best time was from David Simpfendorfer of the Filthy Armadillo team, with 13:46:17.

http://www.srichinmoyraces.org/au/results/ultrareport

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ultra Joe

[Chester Williams]

Hayes El Camino Disc Brakes Fastest disc brakes in the Universe

The El Camino features Power Adjust Dial, which modulates braking power by +/-10%. The Mono-Block caliper is forged using 6061-T6 aluminum while the open back design allows improved airflow across the pads. If you are a fat old ignorant white man from Minn do not buy these brakes. Nothing will stop your sorry ass when you need to stop.

The rotating banjo hose attachment offers optimal hose placement. Perfect for all the hose heads on A.R.B.R.

Chester

[Edward Dolan]

"Chester Williams" > wrote in message
...
> Hayes El Camino Disc Brakes Fastest disc brakes in the Universe
>
> The El Camino features Power Adjust Dial, which modulates braking power by
> +/-10%. The Mono-Block caliper is forged using 6061-T6 aluminum while the
> open back design allows improved airflow across the pads. If you are a fat
> old ignorant white man from Minn do not buy these brakes. Nothing will
> stop your sorry ass when you need to stop.
>
> The rotating banjo hose attachment offers optimal hose placement. Perfect
> for all the hose heads on A.R.B.R.
>
> Chester


>****ing Ed Gin! Why don't you get a life you miserable Mongoloid *******.

> You are a self-centered, self-serving, self-indulgent egomaniac ... a
> disingenuous, nefarious, cretinous scumbag ... an amoral, vile, vulgar
> deviate, a contemptible, seething, puerile twerp ... a moronic,
> infantile, foolish twit ... a worthless, obnoxious, parasitic
> pantywaist ... an incoherent, babbling, imbecilic half-wit ... a gray,
> insignificant, low-life dolt ... a tiresome, brain-dead, boring dullard
> ... a pathetic, pitiful, pretentious pansy ... a slimy, gutless, feeble
> coward. Cloaked in a cyber-space pseudonym, you are an opportunistic,
> infectious, bottom feeding troll ... an oozing festering, canker on the
> hide of Internet newsgroups. I guess that just about sums it up.
>