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Edward Waffle
July 19th 03, 09:26 PM
In every ad I have seen for road bikes, the bike is shown without pedals. In
ads, either in magazines or on the web, for bikes that are shipped complete
with all parts, they also don't include pedals.

Why is this--why pedals, opposed to some other part of the bike?

Just wondering.

Luc & Marin
July 19th 03, 09:43 PM
Pedals are a very individual choice. On many top end bikes they are not
shipped with pedals so that the rider can pick their own.

For the conspiracy theorists, bikes are shipped with out pedals so that the
greedy bike industry can separate us from more hard earned dough.

I tend to believe the that the first option is more true.


"Edward Waffle" > wrote in message
...
> In every ad I have seen for road bikes, the bike is shown without pedals.
In
> ads, either in magazines or on the web, for bikes that are shipped
complete
> with all parts, they also don't include pedals.
>
> Why is this--why pedals, opposed to some other part of the bike?
>
> Just wondering.
>
>

TritonRider
July 19th 03, 10:23 PM
>From: "Luc & Marin"

>Pedals are a very individual choice. On many top end bikes they are not
>shipped with pedals so that the rider can pick their own.
>
>For the conspiracy theorists, bikes are shipped with out pedals so that the
>greedy bike industry can separate us from more hard earned dough.
>
>I tend to believe the that the first option is more true.

Just look at all the trouble Shimano had getting Lance to give up his old
pedals.
Bill C

Dominic Richens
July 20th 03, 12:15 AM
Edward Waffle wrote:
> In every ad I have seen for road bikes, the bike is shown without
> pedals. In ads, either in magazines or on the web, for bikes that are
> shipped complete with all parts, they also don't include pedals.
>
> Why is this--why pedals, opposed to some other part of the bike?

Most people buying a decent bike choose to put their fav set of clipless
pedals on the bike. Just like you never see the bike with a computer on it.
--
Dominic Richens |
"If you're not *outraged*, you're not paying attention!"

velojim
July 20th 03, 03:00 AM
well if this is true why put seats on bikes? Am i alone in always putting
another seat on my new bike purchase???


"Dominic Richens" > wrote in message
...
> Edward Waffle wrote:
> > In every ad I have seen for road bikes, the bike is shown without
> > pedals. In ads, either in magazines or on the web, for bikes that are
> > shipped complete with all parts, they also don't include pedals.
> >
> > Why is this--why pedals, opposed to some other part of the bike?
>
> Most people buying a decent bike choose to put their fav set of clipless
> pedals on the bike. Just like you never see the bike with a computer on
it.
> --
> Dominic Richens |
> "If you're not *outraged*, you're not paying attention!"
>
>

Raptor
July 20th 03, 03:01 AM
Edward Waffle wrote:
> In every ad I have seen for road bikes, the bike is shown without pedals. In
> ads, either in magazines or on the web, for bikes that are shipped complete
> with all parts, they also don't include pedals.
>
> Why is this--why pedals, opposed to some other part of the bike?
>
> Just wondering.

IIRC, they used to come with pedals before pedals morphed into dozens of
different designs.

--
--
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"I'm not proud. We really haven't done everything we could to protect
our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security."
--Microsoft VP in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.

Daniel Lieb
July 20th 03, 04:17 AM
Good point.

I also imagine that it is a major pain for shops to keep the cleats handy until
the bike is sold too.

Nick Burns wrote:

>
> but I will bet that if any bike retailers answer this
> thread, they will tell you that they *always* ended up taking the pedals off
> for credit.

g
July 21st 03, 03:42 AM
Raptor > wrote:

> Edward Waffle wrote:
> > In every ad I have seen for road bikes, the bike is shown without pedals. In
> > ads, either in magazines or on the web, for bikes that are shipped complete
> > with all parts, they also don't include pedals.
> >
> > Why is this--why pedals, opposed to some other part of the bike?
> >
> > Just wondering.
>
> IIRC, they used to come with pedals before pedals morphed into dozens of
> different designs.

Yep, and dealers got fed up accumulating a huge collection of cheap
pedals from new bike purchasers who swap them out, and they can't sell
them.

John Rees
July 21st 03, 07:26 PM
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, g wrote:

>Raptor > wrote:
>
>> Edward Waffle wrote:
>> > In every ad I have seen for road bikes, the bike is shown without pedals. In
>> > ads, either in magazines or on the web, for bikes that are shipped complete
>> > with all parts, they also don't include pedals.
>> >
>> > Why is this--why pedals, opposed to some other part of the bike?
>> >
>
>Yep, and dealers got fed up accumulating a huge collection of cheap
>pedals from new bike purchasers who swap them out, and they can't sell
>them.

I wonder also if, since pedals are such an emotional issue with some ("Pedal x
rocks! All other pedals SUCK!", kind of thing) that the manufactures are
hesitant to put any one type on the bike, lest they lose a sale from an
infuriated potential buyer.

"How dare Trek put Speeplays on the 5500! No way I'm gonna buy a bike with
those lousy pedals on it"

Also, I've noticed little plugs for and against the new Shimano SPD-L pedals in
the TdF coverage. When Lance did his cyclocross thing, Bob Roll commented on
how the new cleats made it possible for Lance to run onto the tarmac without
slipping.

Today, we got to hear Jonathan Vaugers suggest the difficulties Lance was
having with his right pedals was down to his SPD-L. :-) (JV is a Speedplay
user).


From: John B. Rees

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