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vintage
July 25th 03, 05:48 PM
Just checked online today's 18th stage TDF at OLN website and found
out Armstrong leads Ullrich by 1min 5sec (not 1min 7sec).
How come? I thought they crossed the finish line on the same peloton.
What's up with that????? Or is it another OLN error?

Jan
July 25th 03, 05:51 PM
vintage wrote:
> Just checked online today's 18th stage TDF at OLN website and found
> out Armstrong leads Ullrich by 1min 5sec (not 1min 7sec).
> How come? I thought they crossed the finish line on the same peloton.
> What's up with that????? Or is it another OLN error?

Jan Ullrich picked up 2 seconds in the early sprint

Jan


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TimBenz
July 25th 03, 05:56 PM
(vintage) wrote in news:1eeb936f.0307250848.226d0745
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> Just checked online today's 18th stage TDF at OLN website and found
> out Armstrong leads Ullrich by 1min 5sec (not 1min 7sec).
> How come? I thought they crossed the finish line on the same peloton.
> What's up with that????? Or is it another OLN error?
>

Ullrich went for an interim sprint early in the stage and took second ahead
of Armstrong's third. Ullrich gained 4 seconds, and Armstrong gained 2. Net
was two seconds to Ullrich. A somewhat silly move and high-risk move, but
there you have it.

Scott Downie
July 25th 03, 06:08 PM
Quote by Armstong " Its not like I'm going to lose the tour by two seconds".
Oh dear Lance why cant you lose by two seconds ??? Two seconds or two hours.
If Jan takes 1 minute 7 seconds out of Armstrong he will have won by only 2
seconds, and somehow Armstrong feels he is above this ? Boy is it gonna be
fun tommorow !!!!!


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"TimBenz" > wrote in message
98...
> (vintage) wrote in news:1eeb936f.0307250848.226d0745
> @posting.google.com:
>
> > Just checked online today's 18th stage TDF at OLN website and found
> > out Armstrong leads Ullrich by 1min 5sec (not 1min 7sec).
> > How come? I thought they crossed the finish line on the same peloton.
> > What's up with that????? Or is it another OLN error?
> >
>
> Ullrich went for an interim sprint early in the stage and took second
ahead
> of Armstrong's third. Ullrich gained 4 seconds, and Armstrong gained 2.
Net
> was two seconds to Ullrich. A somewhat silly move and high-risk move, but
> there you have it.

Tom Paterson
July 25th 03, 07:15 PM
>From: "AMG"

>Clearly, Ullrich is thinking that Saturday's outcome, and thus the outcome
>of the entire tour, could come down to a difference of seconds, and that if
>he can nip a couple off LA's lead...

He really delivered a message of agression there. Well done, and a couple of
seconds gained, too. Great gamesmanship, low risk in an inter. sprint, another
story for this vintage Tour. --Tom Paterson

one of the six billion
July 25th 03, 11:19 PM
"TimBenz" > wrote in message
98...
> (vintage) wrote in news:1eeb936f.0307250848.226d0745
> @posting.google.com:
>
> > Just checked online today's 18th stage TDF at OLN website and found
> > out Armstrong leads Ullrich by 1min 5sec (not 1min 7sec).
> > How come? I thought they crossed the finish line on the same peloton.
> > What's up with that????? Or is it another OLN error?
> >
>
> Ullrich went for an interim sprint early in the stage and took second
ahead
> of Armstrong's third. Ullrich gained 4 seconds, and Armstrong gained 2.
Net
> was two seconds to Ullrich. A somewhat silly move and high-risk move, but
> there you have it.

Not silly, cool as hell. With that move he showed that he means business,
he's ready for a fight. All those who act so positive of the outcome are
ignorant. What's going to happen tomorrow is so up in the air, it's great.

trg
July 25th 03, 11:33 PM
It was a nice bit of gamesmanship, but it could backfire. The last thing
Ullrich wants to do is get Lance mad. I read somewhere (Dylan Casey?) how to
win the tour de France

Step 1) Don't make Lance mad
Step 2) Don't make Lance mad
....

"Gerrit Stolte" > a écrit dans le message de
...
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:56:29 GMT, TimBenz > wrote:
>
> (vintage) wrote in news:1eeb936f.0307250848.226d0745
> :
> >
> >> Just checked online today's 18th stage TDF at OLN website and found
> >> out Armstrong leads Ullrich by 1min 5sec (not 1min 7sec).
> >> How come? I thought they crossed the finish line on the same peloton.
> >> What's up with that????? Or is it another OLN error?
> >>
> >
> >Ullrich went for an interim sprint early in the stage and took second
ahead
> >of Armstrong's third. Ullrich gained 4 seconds, and Armstrong gained 2.
Net
> >was two seconds to Ullrich. A somewhat silly move and high-risk move, but
> >there you have it.
>
> Why silly and high-risk? He's a better sprinter and he knows it.


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Gerrit Stolte
July 25th 03, 11:52 PM
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 00:33:01 +0200, "trg" >
wrote:

>It was a nice bit of gamesmanship, but it could backfire. The last thing
>Ullrich wants to do is get Lance mad. I read somewhere (Dylan Casey?) how to
>win the tour de France
>
>Step 1) Don't make Lance mad
>Step 2) Don't make Lance mad

Step 3) Make Lance mad and get him hyperventilating

TimBenz
July 26th 03, 12:19 AM
Gerrit Stolte > wrote in
:
>
> Why silly and high-risk? He's a better sprinter and he knows it.

Even his directeur sportif called it risky. While he could gain two
seconds, what if he crashed? What were the odds he would take time? After
all, Armstrong is almost certainly the better sprinter.

Robert Lange
July 27th 03, 05:05 PM
trg wrote:

> I read somewhere (Dylan Casey?) how to win the tour de France
>
> Step 1) Don't make Lance mad
> Step 2) Don't make Lance mad

But won't Lance get mad anyway when he's about to loose?

Nick Burns
July 28th 03, 11:43 PM
"TimBenz" > wrote in message
98...
> Gerrit Stolte > wrote in
> :
> >
> > Why silly and high-risk? He's a better sprinter and he knows it.
>
> Even his directeur sportif called it risky. While he could gain two
> seconds, what if he crashed? What were the odds he would take time? After
> all, Armstrong is almost certainly the better sprinter.

Spoken like a true partisan.

ronde chumpion
July 29th 03, 02:59 AM
"Scott Downie" > wrote in message >...
> Quote by Armstong " Its not like I'm going to lose the tour by two seconds".
> Oh dear Lance why cant you lose by two seconds ??? Two seconds or two hours.
> If Jan takes 1 minute 7 seconds out of Armstrong he will have won by only 2
> seconds, and somehow Armstrong feels he is above this ? Boy is it gonna be
> fun tommorow !!!!!
>


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