Wins in Grand Tours?

[Isidor Gunsberg]

Does anybody have a list of all of the cyclists who have won two of
the three "Grand Tours" (EG The Giro d'Italia, The Tour de France, and
Vuelta A Espana), at least one time each in their careers?

That is, I'm look for a list of cyclists who have won:

A) The Tour de France AND the Giro d'Italia

OR B) The Tour de France AND the Vuelta a Espana

OR C) The Giro de Italia AND the Vuelta a Espana

Also, which of cyclists who managed to achieve one of the above, was
able to accomplish the feat in the SAME YEAR?

Finally, how many cyclists have won all three Grand Tours at some
point in their career?

[h squared]

Isidor Gunsberg wrote:
>
> Does anybody have a list of all of the cyclists who have won two of
> the three "Grand Tours" (EG The Giro d'Italia, The Tour de France, and
> Vuelta A Espana), at least one time each in their careers?
>
> That is, I'm look for a list of cyclists who have won:
>
> A) The Tour de France AND the Giro d'Italia
>
> OR B) The Tour de France AND the Vuelta a Espana
>
> OR C) The Giro de Italia AND the Vuelta a Espana
>
> Also, which of cyclists who managed to achieve one of the above, was
> able to accomplish the feat in the SAME YEAR?
>
> Finally, how many cyclists have won all three Grand Tours at some
> point in their career?

here's a list i got from the info at
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/veloarchive/riders

sorry if someone is missing or something is incorrect, there are a lot
of cyclists to look thru.

Jaques Anquetil
1957 Tour de France
1960 Giro d'Italia
1961 Tour de France
1962 Tour de France
1963 Tour de France
Vuelta a España
1964 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia

Gino Bartali
1936 Giro d'Italia
1937 Giro d'Italia
1938 Tour de France
1946 Giro d'Italia
1948 Tour de France

Giovanni Battaglin
1981 Giro d'Italia
Vuelta a España

Fausto Coppi
1940 Giro d'Italia
1947 Giro d'Italia
1949 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia
1952 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia
1953 Giro d'Italia

Pedro Delgado
1985 Vuelta a España
1988 Tour de France
1989 Vuelta a España

Laurent Fignon
1983 Tour de France
1984 Tour de France
1989 Giro d'Italia

Charly Gaul
1956 Giro d'Italia
1958 Tour de France
1959 Giro d'Italia

Felice Gimondi
1965 Tour de France
1967 Giro d'Italia
1968 Vuelta a España
1969 Giro d'Italia
1976 Giro d'Italia

Bernard Hinault
1978 Tour de France
Vuelta a España
1979 Tour de France
1980 Giro d'Italia
1981 Tour de France
1982 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia
1983 Vuelta a España
1985 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia

Miguel Indurain
1991 Tour de France
1992 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia
1993 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia
1994 Tour de France
1995 Tour de France

Jan Janssen
1967 Vuelta a España
1968 Tour de France

Hugo Koblet
1950 Giro d'Italia
1951 Tour de France

Eddy Merckx
1968 Giro d'Italia
1969 Tour de France
1970 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia
1971 Tour de France
1972 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia
1973 Giro d'Italia
Vuelta a España
1974 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia


Gastone Nencini
1957 Giro d'Italia
1960 Tour de France


Luis Ocaña
1970 Vuelta a España
1973 Tour de France

Marco Pantani
1998 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia

Roger Pingeon
1967 Tour de France
1969 Vuelta a España

Stephen Roche
1987 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia

Toni Rominger
1992 Vuelta a España
1993 Vuelta a España
1994 Vuelta a España
1995 Giro d'Italia

Jan Ullrich
1997 Tour de France
1999 Vuelta a España

Joop Zoetemelk
1979 Vuelta a España
1980 Tour de France

[g]

HEY, how come the GREATEST CYCLIST EVER didn't make this list??

GK

h squared > wrote:
>
> Jaques Anquetil
> 1957 Tour de France
> 1960 Giro d'Italia
> 1961 Tour de France
> 1962 Tour de France
> 1963 Tour de France
> Vuelta a España
> 1964 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
>
> Gino Bartali
> 1936 Giro d'Italia
> 1937 Giro d'Italia
> 1938 Tour de France
> 1946 Giro d'Italia
> 1948 Tour de France
>
> Giovanni Battaglin
> 1981 Giro d'Italia
> Vuelta a España
>
> Fausto Coppi
> 1940 Giro d'Italia
> 1947 Giro d'Italia
> 1949 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
> 1952 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
> 1953 Giro d'Italia
>
> Pedro Delgado
> 1985 Vuelta a España
> 1988 Tour de France
> 1989 Vuelta a España
>
> Laurent Fignon
> 1983 Tour de France
> 1984 Tour de France
> 1989 Giro d'Italia
>
> Charly Gaul
> 1956 Giro d'Italia
> 1958 Tour de France
> 1959 Giro d'Italia
>
> Felice Gimondi
> 1965 Tour de France
> 1967 Giro d'Italia
> 1968 Vuelta a España
> 1969 Giro d'Italia
> 1976 Giro d'Italia
>
> Bernard Hinault
> 1978 Tour de France
> Vuelta a España
> 1979 Tour de France
> 1980 Giro d'Italia
> 1981 Tour de France
> 1982 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
> 1983 Vuelta a España
> 1985 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
>
> Miguel Indurain
> 1991 Tour de France
> 1992 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
> 1993 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
> 1994 Tour de France
> 1995 Tour de France
>
> Jan Janssen
> 1967 Vuelta a España
> 1968 Tour de France
>
> Hugo Koblet
> 1950 Giro d'Italia
> 1951 Tour de France
>
> Eddy Merckx
> 1968 Giro d'Italia
> 1969 Tour de France
> 1970 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
> 1971 Tour de France
> 1972 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
> 1973 Giro d'Italia
> Vuelta a España
> 1974 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
>
>
> Gastone Nencini
> 1957 Giro d'Italia
> 1960 Tour de France
>
>
> Luis Ocaña
> 1970 Vuelta a España
> 1973 Tour de France
>
> Marco Pantani
> 1998 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
>
> Roger Pingeon
> 1967 Tour de France
> 1969 Vuelta a España
>
> Stephen Roche
> 1987 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
>
> Toni Rominger
> 1992 Vuelta a España
> 1993 Vuelta a España
> 1994 Vuelta a España
> 1995 Giro d'Italia
>
> Jan Ullrich
> 1997 Tour de France
> 1999 Vuelta a España
>
> Joop Zoetemelk
> 1979 Vuelta a España
> 1980 Tour de France

[h squared]

g wrote:
>
> HEY, how come the GREATEST CYCLIST EVER didn't make this list??

i spent a couple hours sorting thru that data, and all you can offer me
in reply is this boring and very unoriginal troll?

yay.

h

[DiabloScott]

H Squared wrote:
> g wrote:
> >
> > HEY, how come the GREATEST CYCLIST EVER didn't make this list??
> i spent a couple hours sorting thru that data, and all you can offer me
> in reply is this boring and very unoriginal troll?
> yay.
> h



Hi Heather - I liked that info - thanks.

The Vuelta changed from spring to autumn in order to attract more riders
from outside Spain; the Giro was seen as a better warm up for the Tour
and so most of the top riders chose to skip the Vuelta. The race also
got hillier and the stages got shorter to make the whole three weeks
more exciting for the fans and it certainly seems to have worked - the
last few Vueltas have been real nail biters. Angliru was probably a
mistake but the Vuelta organizers have really made some good steps to
make the Vuelta a major race in its own right and not just a consolation
prize for riders that didn't do well in the Tour.



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[g]

me thinks *Isidor Gunsberg* should have been left to google for the
answers himself instead of placing orders to the ng..

Looks like a 10 minute job to me.


GK

h squared > wrote:

> g wrote:
> >
> > HEY, how come the GREATEST CYCLIST EVER didn't make this list??
>
> i spent a couple hours sorting thru that data, and all you can offer me
> in reply is this boring and very unoriginal troll?
>
> yay.
>
> h

[Bob]

"h squared" > wrote in message
>
> here's a list i got from the info at
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/veloarchive/riders
>
> sorry if someone is missing or something is incorrect, there are a lot
> of cyclists to look thru.
>
> Jaques Anquetil
> 1957 Tour de France
> 1960 Giro d'Italia
> 1961 Tour de France
> 1962 Tour de France
> 1963 Tour de France
> Vuelta a España
> 1964 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia

[...]

> Fausto Coppi
> 1940 Giro d'Italia
> 1947 Giro d'Italia
> 1949 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
> 1952 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
> 1953 Giro d'Italia
[...]

> Bernard Hinault
> 1978 Tour de France
> Vuelta a España
> 1979 Tour de France
> 1980 Giro d'Italia
> 1981 Tour de France
> 1982 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
> 1983 Vuelta a España
> 1985 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia

[....]

> Miguel Indurain
> 1991 Tour de France
> 1992 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
> 1993 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
> 1994 Tour de France
> 1995 Tour de France
>

[....]

> Eddy Merckx
> 1968 Giro d'Italia
> 1969 Tour de France
> 1970 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
> 1971 Tour de France
> 1972 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
> 1973 Giro d'Italia
> Vuelta a España
> 1974 Tour de France
> Giro d'Italia
>

thanks for posting this. it's always amazing to ponder the incredible
achievements of multiple tour winners.

the french tour is now the most competitive but was it always the case? if
not, anyone knows when the change occurred?

[h squared]

h squared wrote:
>
> g wrote:
> >
> > Looks like a 10 minute job to me.
> >
>
> not all of us are so smart and well endowed as you. do you make fun of
> mentally handicapped people too?
>
> heather "it took me 15 minutes to write this message" halvorson

i was going to add- ps. don't worry about it- but i spaced (perhaps due
to mental strain)

heather
ps.don't worry about it.

[Doug]

>Does anybody have a list of all of the cyclists who have won two of
>the three "Grand Tours" (EG The Giro d'Italia, The Tour de France, and

> Also, which of cyclists who managed to achieve one of the above, was
>able to accomplish the feat in the SAME YEAR?

http://townsleyb.members.beeb.net/procycle/Achiev.htm for same year
winners.

Doug

[Isidor Gunsberg]

(g) wrote in message >...
> me thinks *Isidor Gunsberg* should have been left to google for the
> answers himself instead of placing orders to the ng..
>
> Looks like a 10 minute job to me.


Finding the information takes about 10 minutes. Compiling it takes
quite a bit longer. Besides, now all rbr readers can glean the info
for themselves.
It was an interesting question, if I do say so myself.

I appreciate the efforts of those who take the time to respond to
Usenet queries. However, they do so because they want to do so--nobody
puts a gun to their head, and forces them to work in some kind of info
sweatshop.
>
>
> GK
>
> h squared > wrote:
>
> > g wrote:
> > >
> > > HEY, how come the GREATEST CYCLIST EVER didn't make this list??
> >
> > i spent a couple hours sorting thru that data, and all you can offer me
> > in reply is this boring and very unoriginal troll?
> >
> > yay.
> >
> > h

[h squared]

Isidor Gunsberg wrote:
>
> Thank you, Heather! Your effort is greatly appreciated.
>

not at all, it was fun to read thru the palmares of every racer with
something worth mentioning.

it was especially interesting because many entries read some thing like:

"Racer X
19** 2 stages some grand tour"

and that's it for them. then you get to something like:

"Roger De Vlaeminck
1975
Paris - Roubaix
Championship of Zurich
Giro di Lazio
Tirreno - Adriatico
Tour of Switzerland
Points competition, Tour of Switzerland
6 stages, Tour of Switzerland
Points Competition, Giro d'Italia
7 stages, Giro d'Italia
Critérium des As"

and that's just one year for him!! in other words, it gives one a new
respect for what a few men have accomplished.

bye
heather

[Isidor Gunsberg]

(jumphress) wrote in message >...
> (Isidor Gunsberg) wrote in message >...
> > Does anybody have a list of all of the cyclists who have won two of
> > the three "Grand Tours" (EG The Giro d'Italia, The Tour de France, and
> > Vuelta A Espana), at least one time each in their careers?
> >
> > That is, I'm look for a list of cyclists who have won:
> >
> > A) The Tour de France AND the Giro d'Italia
> >
> > OR B) The Tour de France AND the Vuelta a Espana
> >
> > OR C) The Giro de Italia AND the Vuelta a Espana

The interesting thing is that only 21 different riders have managed
to win (at least) two of the three Grand Tours, over the course of
their careers.

Of those riders, 8 of them managed to achieve "Doubles", by winning
2 of the Grand Tours in the same year. They are:

Jacques Anquetil
Giovanni Battaglin
Fausto Coppi
Bernard Hinault
Miguel Indurain
Eddy Merckx
Marco Pantani
Stephen Roche

Interestingly, Battaglin, Pantani, and Roche won just 2 Grand Tours
in their respective careers, but managed to still achieve Doubles by
winning them both in the same year.

Battaglin-- Giro and Vuelta, 1981
Pantani -- TdF and Giro, 1998
Roche -- TdF and Giro, 1987


The only riders to achieve a TdF and Giro Double in the same year
are:

Anquetil, in 1963
Hinault, in 1978

> >
> > Also, which of cyclists who managed to achieve one of the above, was
> > able to accomplish the feat in the SAME YEAR?
> >
> > Finally, how many cyclists have won all three Grand Tours at some
> > point in their career?
>
>
> Merckx, Hinault and Anquetil are the only riders that come to mind to
> have won all three.

Also, the Italian rider, Gimondi:

Felice Gimondi
1965 Tour de France
1967 Giro d'Italia
1968 Vuelta a España
1969 Giro d'Italia
1976 Giro d'Italia

Felice Gimondi never achieved a "Double", but he managed to win all
three Grand Tours in the span of 4 years.


Merckx won Giro and Vuelta in '73, Anquetil the
> Vuelta and Tour in '63. Roche won the Giro and Tour in '87. I believe
> that Hinault won the Giro and Tour in '82 and '85.

Hinault also won the TdF and the Vuelta in the same year (1978)

Bernard Hinault
1978 Tour de France
Vuelta a España
1979 Tour de France
1980 Giro d'Italia
1981 Tour de France
1982 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia
1983 Vuelta a España
1985 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia


Giovanni Battaglin achieved the unusual Double of winning the Giro
d'Italia and the Vuelta a Espana in the same year. The only other
rider to do so (as you noted above) was Merckx, in 1973


Giovanni Battaglin
1981 Giro d'Italia
Vuelta a España

Like Battaglin, Marco Pantani won his only 2 Grand Tour victories in
the same year. He won the TdF and the Giro in 1998:

Marco Pantani
1998 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia




>
> Keep in mind that the Vuelta switched from April to September in 1995,
> and seems to have been changed to feature steep climbs over flatter
> stages, I guess to favor the Spanish teams.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++
Information from Heather's research:


here's a list i got from the info at
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/veloarchive/riders

sorry if someone is missing or something is incorrect, there are a lot
of cyclists to look thru.

Jaques Anquetil
1957 Tour de France
1960 Giro d'Italia
1961 Tour de France
1962 Tour de France
1963 Tour de France
Vuelta a España
1964 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia

Gino Bartali
1936 Giro d'Italia
1937 Giro d'Italia
1938 Tour de France
1946 Giro d'Italia
1948 Tour de France

Giovanni Battaglin
1981 Giro d'Italia
Vuelta a España

Fausto Coppi
1940 Giro d'Italia
1947 Giro d'Italia
1949 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia
1952 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia
1953 Giro d'Italia

Pedro Delgado
1985 Vuelta a España
1988 Tour de France
1989 Vuelta a España

Laurent Fignon
1983 Tour de France
1984 Tour de France
1989 Giro d'Italia

Charly Gaul
1956 Giro d'Italia
1958 Tour de France
1959 Giro d'Italia

Felice Gimondi
1965 Tour de France
1967 Giro d'Italia
1968 Vuelta a España
1969 Giro d'Italia
1976 Giro d'Italia

Bernard Hinault
1978 Tour de France
Vuelta a España
1979 Tour de France
1980 Giro d'Italia
1981 Tour de France
1982 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia
1983 Vuelta a España
1985 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia

Miguel Indurain
1991 Tour de France
1992 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia
1993 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia
1994 Tour de France
1995 Tour de France

Jan Janssen
1967 Vuelta a España
1968 Tour de France

Hugo Koblet
1950 Giro d'Italia
1951 Tour de France

Eddy Merckx
1968 Giro d'Italia
1969 Tour de France
1970 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia
1971 Tour de France
1972 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia
1973 Giro d'Italia
Vuelta a España
1974 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia


Gastone Nencini
1957 Giro d'Italia
1960 Tour de France


Luis Ocaña
1970 Vuelta a España
1973 Tour de France

Marco Pantani
1998 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia

Roger Pingeon
1967 Tour de France
1969 Vuelta a España

Stephen Roche
1987 Tour de France
Giro d'Italia

Toni Rominger
1992 Vuelta a España
1993 Vuelta a España
1994 Vuelta a España
1995 Giro d'Italia

Jan Ullrich
1997 Tour de France
1999 Vuelta a España

Joop Zoetemelk
1979 Vuelta a España
1980 Tour de France