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A Muzi January 26th 07 03:24 AM

Unnerving braking experiences; sudden braking increase.
 
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"ddog" wrote:
Michael Press wrote:

snip


"Michael Press" wrote
Do not top post. I fixed it for you.
In the cases reported I spent _less_ time with the
brakes on. I was not dragging the brakes as you say.


Mamba wrote:
I am curious about the "top post" comment. It appears that bottom posting
encourages bandwidth waste and the inclusion of way too much verbiage,
especially in longer threads. Since all prior occurances in the thread
would likely contain the same stuff, seems redundant.

I realize that some folks use readers that make this desirable, and I'm not
flaming. Just curious about why this became the "way" to do it on usenet?


Secondly, it is possible to edit or 'snip' quoted material to enhance
readability while retaining the prior writer's point. (It's also
possible to chop up another's words into a twisted version unlike his
intent but that's another topic)

..backwards running is conversation of flow the if as, oddly reads
posting Top .annoying posting top find ,me including ,people Some

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Michael Press January 26th 07 04:58 AM

Unnerving braking experiences; sudden braking increase.
 
In article ,
"Bill Sornson" wrote:

Does this help?

Mamba wrote:
"Michael Press" wrote in message
...
In article
.com
,
"ddog" wrote:
Michael Press wrote:

snip

Do not top post. I fixed it for you.

In the cases reported I spent _less_ time with the
brakes on. I was not dragging the brakes as you say.


I am curious about the "top post" comment. It appears that bottom
posting encourages bandwidth waste and the inclusion of way too much
verbiage, especially in longer threads. Since all prior occurances
in the thread would likely contain the same stuff, seems redundant.

I realize that some folks use readers that make this desirable, and
I'm not flaming. Just curious about why this became the "way" to do
it on usenet?


You can read about it here.

http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm

--
Michael Press

Tim McNamara January 26th 07 03:08 PM

Unnerving braking experiences; sudden braking increase.
 
In article ,
"Mamba" wrote:

"Michael Press" wrote in message
...
In article .com
, "ddog" wrote:
Michael Press wrote:

snip

Do not top post. I fixed it for you.


snip

I am curious about the "top post" comment. It appears that bottom
posting encourages bandwidth waste and the inclusion of way too much
verbiage, especially in longer threads. Since all prior occurances
in the thread would likely contain the same stuff, seems redundant.


You've got it backwards. Top posting encourages putting one sentence
(e.g., "me too") on top of 400 lines of text. So-called "bottom
posting" practice asks the poster to clip out the irrelevant portions of
the text, which you will notice that I have done with the posts above.

I realize that some folks use readers that make this desirable, and
I'm not flaming. Just curious about why this became the "way" to do
it on usenet?


Because it is the most logical way to carry on a conversation with
multiple participants.



A: it screws up the flow of a conversation.

Q: What's wrong with top posting?

ddog January 26th 07 03:35 PM

Unnerving braking experiences; sudden braking increase.
 
Michael,

Are you playing teacher by an unknown web source as your authority?
Not to say anything is right or wrong, because except for math,
everything is variable.

I can find many sources that say different if I wanted to waste my
time.
English changes daily, much less web rules from strict parented
obedient offspring
trying to pass off as an expert of anything. Just the overly complex
presentaion
of that link shows they have little too offer that couldn't been said
in a few bullet lines:
and therefore infinitely more understandable. But if logic were flawed
it would be easily revealed as well!

EVERY English paper formatting guidelines are different: EVERY one.
And all have flaws that may not adapt to your medium to be a simple
pleasing format to your readers.

Communication is the bridge to mental mapping (Human factor
engineering), and
not stringent rules that make messages overcomplex to meet artificial
guidelines.

After several degrees, if you so desire, you will understand the
policies behind the procedures, and
will be less judgemental on meaningless procedures that adds minutia in
our lives.

imto




Michael Press wrote:

You can read about it here.

http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm

--
Michael Press



[email protected] January 26th 07 03:47 PM

Unnerving braking experiences; sudden braking increase.
 


On Jan 26, 10:35 am, "ddog" wrote:
Michael,

Are you playing teacher by an unknown web source as your authority?
Not to say anything is right or wrong, because except for math,
everything is variable.


Baloney.

Some things are variable. Some things are matters of opinion. But
pretending there is no right or wrong in _anything_ is really pretty
dumb.

People have explained and cited the advantages of posting in logical
order - that is, with later comments following earlier quoted comments,
with proper trimming. To me, those advantages seem beyond debate.

What do _you_ see as the advantage of top posting?? Is it _that_ much
work to move your cursor??

And do feel free to "waste your time" finding citations.

- Frank Krygowski


Mike Jacoubowsky January 26th 07 04:23 PM

Unnerving braking experiences; sudden braking increase.
 
I am curious about the "top post" comment. It appears that bottom posting
encourages bandwidth waste and the inclusion of way too much verbiage,
especially in longer threads. Since all prior occurances in the thread
would likely contain the same stuff, seems redundant.


You only have to include the relevant part you're replying to or, if you're
really concerned about bandwidth, you could simply post a reply to the
thread without context. Not such a great idea though, since you've obviously
made it more difficult for someone googling the thread to understand what it
is you're responding to.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com



[email protected] January 26th 07 04:28 PM

Unnerving braking experiences; sudden braking increase.
 
On Jan 26, 9:35 am, "ddog" wrote:

After several degrees, if you so desire, you will understand the
policies behind the procedures, and
will be less judgemental on meaningless procedures that adds minutia in
our lives.


You are full of ****.

Sincerely, D-y


ddog January 26th 07 04:40 PM

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On Jan 26, 11:28 am, wrote:
On Jan 26, 9:35 am, "ddog" wrote:
You are full of ****.


Sincerely, D-y


Yo' momma!


Bill Sornson January 26th 07 04:51 PM

Unnerving braking experiences; sudden braking increase.
 
ddog wrote (BELOW QUOTED TEXT FOR ONCE!):
On Jan 26, 11:28 am, wrote:
On Jan 26, 9:35 am, "ddog" wrote:


You are full of ****.


Sincerely, D-y


Yo' momma!


FINALLY he gets it! LOL



[email protected] January 26th 07 04:53 PM

Unnerving braking experiences; sudden braking increase.
 


On Jan 26, 10:40 am, "ddog" wrote:
(On Jan 26, 11:28 am, wrote):

You are full of ****.


Sincerely, D-y


Yo' momma!

Which of the many degrees supplied that snappy rejoinder?

Glad to see you getting with the program here. Trim, quote, reply, hit
send. Atta boy, good ddog! --D-y



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