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MrCheerful July 10th 18 06:40 PM

Cycle friendly roundabout claims its first victim
 
"There will be segregated cycle lanes and the points at which riders
cross the road will be controlled by traffic lights to avoid any
potential conflict. We hope this will be a blueprint others can follow."

Perhaps the above shows the problem, cyclists do not know traffic lights
apply to bicycles.

http://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/...rubbish-truck/

Bruce 'Not Glug' Lee July 10th 18 06:41 PM

Cycle friendly roundabout claims its first victim
 
MrCheerful wrote:

"There will be segregated cycle lanes and the points at which riders
cross the road will be controlled by traffic lights to avoid any
potential conflict. We hope this will be a blueprint others can follow."

Perhaps the above shows the problem, cyclists do not know traffic lights
apply to bicycles.

http://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/...rubbish-truck/


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jnugent July 12th 18 12:01 AM

Cycle friendly roundabout claims its first victim
 
On 10/07/2018 18:40, MrCheerful wrote:

"There will be segregated cycle lanes and the points at which riders
cross the road will be controlled by traffic lights to avoid any
potential conflict. We hope this will be a blueprint others can follow."

Perhaps the above shows the problem, cyclists do not know traffic lights
apply to bicycles.

http://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/...rubbish-truck/


QUOTE:
[A] Wandsworth Council transport spokesman said: “This is an innovative
design and we expect it will be the first major roundabout in London
which separates cyclists from other traffic in this way. There will be
segregated cycle lanes and the points at which riders cross the road
will be controlled by traffic lights to avoid any potential conflict".

Traffic lights expected to avoid any potential traffic conflicts between
cyclists and other traffic?

Yeah, right.

There's your problem right there, and someone had to pay the ultimate
price to prove the obvious.

Simon Jester July 12th 18 06:12 PM

Cycle friendly roundabout claims its first victim
 
On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 6:40:16 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
"There will be segregated cycle lanes and the points at which riders
cross the road will be controlled by traffic lights to avoid any
potential conflict. We hope this will be a blueprint others can follow."

Perhaps the above shows the problem, cyclists do not know traffic lights
apply to bicycles.

http://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/...rubbish-truck/


That link is broken, it cut off before it mentioned the cyclist ignoring the traffic light.
Please post the rest of the link with evidence to support your claim.

Simon Jester July 12th 18 06:18 PM

Cycle friendly roundabout claims its first victim
 
On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 6:40:16 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
"There will be segregated cycle lanes and the points at which riders
cross the road will be controlled by traffic lights to avoid any
potential conflict. We hope this will be a blueprint others can follow."

Perhaps the above shows the problem, cyclists do not know traffic lights
apply to bicycles.

http://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/...rubbish-truck/


There are a couple of obvious solutions to this

1: Keep the cycle light at green and make motorvehicleists press a button to make their light change for 10 seconds with sensors to make sure the light does not change when there are cyclists using the crossing.

2: Remove the lights and give Primary Vehicle Users absolute priority with instructions for motorvehiclists to dismount and push their toys through the crossing.



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