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Jeff Liebermann May 14th 19 01:01 AM

3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars
 
This might be fun to try on painted bicycle lanes.

"Town in Iceland Paints 3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars"
https://www.boredpanda.com/3d-pedestrian-crossing-island/

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Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D
http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Ralph Barone[_4_] May 14th 19 01:20 AM

3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars
 
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
This might be fun to try on painted bicycle lanes.

"Town in Iceland Paints 3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars"
https://www.boredpanda.com/3d-pedestrian-crossing-island/


That’s got to look just wrong if you approach it from the other side.


John B. Slocomb May 14th 19 02:03 AM

3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars
 
On Tue, 14 May 2019 00:20:59 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
This might be fun to try on painted bicycle lanes.

"Town in Iceland Paints 3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars"
https://www.boredpanda.com/3d-pedestrian-crossing-island/


That’s got to look just wrong if you approach it from the other side.


Also note the density of the traffic. Certainly they were going to
photograph this when traffic was not heavy but still, three cars
parked on the street in one photo and four in another? Contrast that
with any U.S. (or probably any European) city.
--

Cheers,

John B.

Jeff Liebermann May 14th 19 04:28 AM

3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars
 
On Tue, 14 May 2019 00:20:59 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
This might be fun to try on painted bicycle lanes.

"Town in Iceland Paints 3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars"
https://www.boredpanda.com/3d-pedestrian-crossing-island/


3D crossings are becoming commonplace:
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=3D+pedestrian+crossing

That’s got to look just wrong if you approach it from the other side.


True. But if everyone is driving or riding in the proper directions,
and nobody looks in their rear view mirror, the 3D illusion should
work correctly.

It's called "3D pavement art".
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1193610/Dont-look-Cyclists-faced-huge-hole-ground-towpath--luckily-just-pavement-art.html

Much mo
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=3d+pavement+art
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBxBg6Dpr38
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/326792516683093189/?lp=true
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=3D+pavement+art

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D
http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann May 14th 19 04:31 AM

3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars
 
On Tue, 14 May 2019 08:03:27 +0700, John B. Slocomb
wrote:

On Tue, 14 May 2019 00:20:59 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
This might be fun to try on painted bicycle lanes.

"Town in Iceland Paints 3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars"
https://www.boredpanda.com/3d-pedestrian-crossing-island/


That’s got to look just wrong if you approach it from the other side.


Also note the density of the traffic. Certainly they were going to
photograph this when traffic was not heavy but still, three cars
parked on the street in one photo and four in another? Contrast that
with any U.S. (or probably any European) city.


That proves that the pavement art works. The traffic must have been
quite heavy in the past to justify the cost of a professionally
painted 3D pavement art obstacle. After installation, it would appear
that the traffic was greatly reduced as drivers avoid the area rather
than ramming the crosswalk.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D
http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

John B. Slocomb May 14th 19 05:54 AM

3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars
 
On Mon, 13 May 2019 20:31:37 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Tue, 14 May 2019 08:03:27 +0700, John B. Slocomb
wrote:

On Tue, 14 May 2019 00:20:59 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
This might be fun to try on painted bicycle lanes.

"Town in Iceland Paints 3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars"
https://www.boredpanda.com/3d-pedestrian-crossing-island/


That’s got to look just wrong if you approach it from the other side.


Also note the density of the traffic. Certainly they were going to
photograph this when traffic was not heavy but still, three cars
parked on the street in one photo and four in another? Contrast that
with any U.S. (or probably any European) city.


That proves that the pavement art works. The traffic must have been
quite heavy in the past to justify the cost of a professionally
painted 3D pavement art obstacle. After installation, it would appear
that the traffic was greatly reduced as drivers avoid the area rather
than ramming the crosswalk.


You don't think that it has anything to do with the population of the
entire country amounting to only 340,000 people? A bit smaller than
Anaheim.
--

Cheers,

John B.

Jeff Liebermann May 15th 19 04:37 AM

3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars
 
On Mon, 13 May 2019 20:31:37 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:
(...)
There's another benefit to cycling from pavement art. It might be
possible to paint 3D speed bumps or a brick border wall on the road.
That should at least placate both sides of the separated bicycle lane
debate. Those in favor of a dedicated bicycle lane will get something
that looks much like obstacles to keep the cars out of the bicycle
lane. Those opposed will get the knowledge that both cars and
bicycles can drive over the border wall or bumps without precipitating
an accident. If there's too much crossing over the 3D border wall,
then installing a few random real obstacles should slow down the
adventurous and make them think twice before crossing.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D
http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

jOHN b. May 15th 19 05:19 AM

3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars
 
On Tue, 14 May 2019 20:37:09 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Mon, 13 May 2019 20:31:37 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:
(...)
There's another benefit to cycling from pavement art. It might be
possible to paint 3D speed bumps or a brick border wall on the road.
That should at least placate both sides of the separated bicycle lane
debate. Those in favor of a dedicated bicycle lane will get something
that looks much like obstacles to keep the cars out of the bicycle
lane. Those opposed will get the knowledge that both cars and
bicycles can drive over the border wall or bumps without precipitating
an accident. If there's too much crossing over the 3D border wall,
then installing a few random real obstacles should slow down the
adventurous and make them think twice before crossing.


Nah, won't work. With a simple painted line, even if three-dimensional
picture, the riders won't feel completely safe the way that they
would if they had their very own WALL.

And, to be just a tiny bit cynical... people that are in receipt of
their very own WALL will feel wanted and will reciprocate those warm
fuzzy feelings by how? Why, by voting for the WALL builders. How else?
--
cheers,

John B.


SMS May 15th 19 01:18 PM

3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars
 
On 5/13/2019 5:01 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
This might be fun to try on painted bicycle lanes.

"Town in Iceland Paints 3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars"
https://www.boredpanda.com/3d-pedestrian-crossing-island/


I'll check with Caltrans to see if this is a legal traffic control
device. It's not mentioned in their manual
http://www.dot.ca.gov/trafficops/camutcd/docs/2014r4/CAMUTCD2014_rev4_hires.pdf.


AMuzi May 15th 19 01:43 PM

3D Zebra Crosswalk To Slow Down Speeding Cars
 
On 5/14/2019 10:37 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 13 May 2019 20:31:37 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:
(...)
There's another benefit to cycling from pavement art. It might be
possible to paint 3D speed bumps or a brick border wall on the road.
That should at least placate both sides of the separated bicycle lane
debate. Those in favor of a dedicated bicycle lane will get something
that looks much like obstacles to keep the cars out of the bicycle
lane. Those opposed will get the knowledge that both cars and
bicycles can drive over the border wall or bumps without precipitating
an accident. If there's too much crossing over the 3D border wall,
then installing a few random real obstacles should slow down the
adventurous and make them think twice before crossing.


Quite clever, Jeff. That encapsulates the ethos of the
Administrative State; random fatal impediments.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971




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