Cycling accidents - British TV documentary
 

We make serious documentaries for British TV - BBC and Channel 4
mostly, and are now working on programme about cycling accidents
involving heavy goods vehicles around the UK.

There have been several accidents, and deaths, in London so far this
year which have been comvered, to some extent, by the press.

But what about accidents outside London around the rest of the
country? We have found these very hard to find. If you know of such
accidents involving heavy good vehicles, outside of London, please get
in touch.

Many thanks. We would like your help.

Cycling accidents - British TV documentary
 

ed wrote:
We make serious documentaries for British TV - BBC and Channel 4
mostly, and are now working on programme about cycling accidents
involving heavy goods vehicles around the UK.

There have been several accidents, and deaths, in London so far this
year which have been comvered, to some extent, by the press.

But what about accidents outside London around the rest of the
country? We have found these very hard to find.

Are coroners reports not available in some form?

BugBear

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On Oct 7, 10:38 am, ed wrote:
We make serious documentaries for British TV - BBC and Channel 4
mostly, and are now working on programme about cycling accidents
involving heavy goods vehicles around the UK.

There have been several accidents, and deaths, in London so far this
year which have been comvered, to some extent, by the press.

But what about accidents outside London around the rest of the
country? We have found these very hard to find. If you know of such
accidents involving heavy good vehicles, outside of London, please get
in touch.

Many thanks. We would like your help.

Could you post what production company you are, your company address
and proper details etc... You will get a better response and it seems
only polite if you are looking for information that posters know who
they are posting to so they can make an informed decision about
whether they wish to participate.

IE: the production company that tried to get homeschool parents to
participate in a documentary turned out to be a hatchet company with a
bad reputation which used some very underhand techniques and reporting
styles that non of that community wished to engage with.

If you have nothing to hide then post the details so members can check
you out.

If you don't then I would have to advise others not to respond.

Sniper8052

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On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 02:50:05 -0700 (PDT)
" wrote:

Could you post what production company you are, your company address
and proper details etc... You will get a better response and it seems
only polite if you are looking for information that posters know who
they are posting to so they can make an informed decision about
whether they wish to participate.

A quick look online supports his gmail address: a Dr Ed Harriman at that
IP address, who seems well-respected as a documentary maker. If he's
that one, he writes for the London Review of Books, which must count for
something. ;-)

You're right, though; it would at the very least be polite to tell us
who he is.


--
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Cycling accidents - British TV documentary
 

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 11:05:57 +0100, Mark McNeill
said in
:

A quick look online supports his gmail address: a Dr Ed Harriman at that
IP address, who seems well-respected as a documentary maker. If he's
that one, he writes for the London Review of Books, which must count for
something. ;-)

Seems fair enough. He's unlikely to find many interview subjects,
though, as being crushed by a truck tends to limit your future
participation in TV documentaries :-(

Guy
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On Oct 7, 11:25 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 11:05:57 +0100, Mark McNeill
said in
:

A quick look online supports his gmail address: a Dr Ed Harriman at that
IP address, who seems well-respected as a documentary maker. If he's
that one, he writes for the London Review of Books, which must count for
something. ;-)

Seems fair enough. He's unlikely to find many interview subjects,
though, as being crushed by a truck tends to limit your future
participation in TV documentaries :-(

Guy
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85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

I may be exhibiting 'once bitten twice shy syndrome' but best people
know what they are getting involved with.

It may be there are not that many large vehicle collisions outside of
major urban areas particularly as they tend to be 'anacdotally' left
turn collisions from stationary.

Sniper8052

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In article ,
ed wrote:
We make serious documentaries for British TV - BBC and Channel 4
mostly, and are now working on programme about cycling accidents
involving heavy goods vehicles around the UK.

As a responsibile documentary maker, would you please consider the
secondary message you're sending ?

Obviously it is important to reduce risks. But, overall, cycling is
not a dangerous activity. If we concentrate too much on bad accidents
people will tend to think that cycling is very dangerous. This
reduces the number of people who want to cycle. Fewer people cycling
is bad for congestion and bad for the environment; conversely the more
cyclists there are the more pleasant (and safer) cycling becomes.

I don't know the planned structure of your programme, but it might be
worth you thinking about how to avoid making your viewers pessimistic
about the safety of cycling.

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On 7 Oct, 12:06, "
wrote:
On Oct 7, 11:25 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?"



wrote:
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 11:05:57 +0100, Mark McNeill
said in
:

A quick look online supports his gmail address: a Dr Ed Harriman at that
IP address, who seems well-respected as a documentary maker. If he's
that one, he writes for the London Review of Books, which must count for
something. ;-)

Seems fair enough. He's unlikely to find many interview subjects,
though, as being crushed by a truck tends to limit your future
participation in TV documentaries :-(

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

I may be exhibiting 'once bitten twice shy syndrome' but best people
know what they are getting involved with.

It may be there are not that many large vehicle collisions outside of
major urban areas particularly as they tend to be 'anacdotally' left
turn collisions from stationary.


And in hyper-busy environments.

Cycling accidents - British TV documentary
 

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
In article
,
ed wrote:
We make serious documentaries for British TV - BBC and Channel 4
mostly, and are now working on programme about cycling accidents
involving heavy goods vehicles around the UK.

As a responsibile documentary maker, would you please consider the
secondary message you're sending ?

Obviously it is important to reduce risks. But, overall, cycling is
not a dangerous activity. If we concentrate too much on bad accidents
people will tend to think that cycling is very dangerous. This
reduces the number of people who want to cycle. Fewer people cycling
is bad for congestion and bad for the environment; conversely the more
cyclists there are the more pleasant (and safer) cycling becomes.

I don't know the planned structure of your programme, but it might be
worth you thinking about how to avoid making your viewers pessimistic
about the safety of cycling.

I think I can see your concerns, but one could just as easily as you to
consider the 'secondary message' that *you* are sending; which is "don't
give people information that will improve their safety because that only
makes them think it's dangerous"

There is particular risk for cyclists from left turning lorries, and as most
newbie cyclists have probably not received training or read Cyclecraft they
are likely to be unaware of the danger.

Cycling accidents - British TV documentary
 

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 04:06:34 -0700 (PDT), "
said in
:

It may be there are not that many large vehicle collisions outside of
major urban areas particularly as they tend to be 'anacdotally' left
turn collisions from stationary.

True, this does seem to be mainly a London problem, but as you say
that could just be reporting issues. I know there are high level
meetings about the issue of LGV collisions going on in London right
now.

Guy
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85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound