Another pollution from motor vehicles warning.
The TV news this morning showed the appalling smog over London and
people with breathing difficulties were advised to stay indoors. Doesn't it seem strange though that individuals are actually allowed to cause such harm to others with their polluting motor vehicles and why is there no legal redress to this? http://airtext.info shows how the pollution is distributed over London this morning. Doug. |
Another pollution from motor vehicles warning.
On Apr 23, 9:42*am, Doug wrote:
The TV news this morning showed the appalling smog over London and people with breathing difficulties were advised to stay indoors. Doesn't it seem strange though that individuals are actually allowed to cause such harm to others with their polluting motor vehicles and why is there no legal redress to this? There *are* fines applicable, although the culprits will get away with it and we the taxpayer will end up picking up the tab. "Monitoring in Marylebone Road, central London, showed that the number of days on which polluting particles known as PM10s were elevated was higher than the EU maximum. Britain has been given until June to meet standards before it risks being fined". -- Simon Mason |
Another pollution from motor vehicles warning.
Doug wrote:
The TV news this morning showed the appalling smog over London and people with breathing difficulties were advised to stay indoors. Doesn't it seem strange though that individuals are actually allowed to cause such harm to others with their polluting motor vehicles and why is there no legal redress to this? http://airtext.info shows how the pollution is distributed over London this morning. Doug. You still haven't got this impersonation lark sussed, have you? |
Another pollution from motor vehicles warning.
On 23/04/2011 09:48, Simon Mason wrote:
On Apr 23, 9:42 am, wrote: The TV news this morning showed the appalling smog over London and people with breathing difficulties were advised to stay indoors. Doesn't it seem strange though that individuals are actually allowed to cause such harm to others with their polluting motor vehicles and why is there no legal redress to this? There *are* fines applicable, although the culprits will get away with it and we the taxpayer will end up picking up the tab. What "tab"? The "argument" (such as it is) for the ferocious taxation of fuel usually relies upon the notion that some of it is imposed in return for the alleged "externalities" of motor vehicle use (though no mention is ever made of the masive societal benefits accruing from ease of travel). You'd like to see vehicle-users pay twice (if, indeed, as few times as that), would you? "Monitoring in Marylebone Road, central London, showed that the number of days on which polluting particles known as PM10s were elevated was higher than the EU maximum. Britain has been given until June to meet standards before it risks being fined". Easiest way of reducing that effect in the Marylebone Road would be to stop channelling the area's traffic along that particular street, by abolishing the "Congestion" Tax. |
Another pollution from motor vehicles warning.
On Apr 23, 9:42*am, Doug wrote:
The TV news this morning showed the appalling smog over London and people with breathing difficulties were advised to stay indoors. Doesn't it seem strange though that individuals are actually allowed to cause such harm to others with their polluting motor vehicles and why is there no legal redress to this? http://airtext.infoshows how the pollution is distributed over London this morning. Doug. Move away from London. Nasty place anyway. |
Another pollution from motor vehicles warning.
Doug wrote: The TV news this morning showed the appalling smog over London and people with breathing difficulties were advised to stay indoors. Doesn't it seem strange though that individuals are actually allowed to cause such harm to others with their polluting motor vehicles and why is there no legal redress to this? http://airtext.info shows how the pollution is distributed over London this morning. Doug. Change all max speed limits to minimum speed limits. At a stroke, cars would spend less time on the roads, and there would be less congestion. |
Another pollution from motor vehicles warning.
johannes wrote:
|| Doug wrote: ||| ||| The TV news this morning showed the appalling smog over London and ||| people with breathing difficulties were advised to stay indoors. ||| Doesn't it seem strange though that individuals are actually allowed ||| to cause such harm to others with their polluting motor vehicles and ||| why is there no legal redress to this? ||| ||| http://airtext.info shows how the pollution is distributed over ||| London this morning. ||| ||| Doug. || || Change all max speed limits to minimum speed limits. At a stroke, || cars would spend less time on the roads, and there would be less || congestion. Plus there would be no speeding, so the roads would be safer. -- Rob |
Another pollution from motor vehicles warning.
Doug wrote:
The TV news this morning showed the appalling smog over London and people with breathing difficulties were advised to stay indoors. Doesn't it seem strange though that individuals are actually allowed to cause such harm to others with their polluting motor vehicles and why is there no legal redress to this? A lot of those vehicles are there because of you. All I know about you is that you ride a bicycle. You probably regard bicycles as cheap and clean, yes? But they're only "cheap" because they're made efficiently, and they're only "clean" because the pollution arising from their manufacture and use is not near to you (though nearer than you think). A bicycle is made of metals and plastics, which requires metal-ore mining (which requires mining machinery), refining (which requires an electricity industry), oil drilling and the chemical industry (plastics), fabrication of the parts, electroplating, paint, and so on. So you've got mining and oil industry, energy industry (all forms), chemical industry (lots of), manufacturing, and of course transport (all forms). Those things all rely on education, construction, security and emergency services, health services, and of course food. Now, you consider using your bicycle to be pollution-free, because you don't burn petrol to move it, but you eat food, so we're back to oil drilling, and tractor manufacture, and transport (all forms) and the chemical industry, and we should also throw in the water and sewage industry, and yet more consruction, which is all backed up by education and health and security and so on, and so on. http://airtext.info shows how the pollution is distributed over London this morning. Yes, shame on you! Doug. |
Another pollution from motor vehicles warning.
On Apr 23, 9:52*pm, Sleepalot wrote:
Doug wrote: The TV news this morning showed the appalling smog over London and people with breathing difficulties were advised to stay indoors. Doesn't it seem strange though that individuals are actually allowed to cause such harm to others with their polluting motor vehicles and why is there no legal redress to this? A lot of those vehicles are there because of you. All I know about you is that you ride a bicycle. You probably regard bicycles as cheap and clean, yes? But they're only "cheap" because they're made efficiently, and they're only "clean" because the pollution arising from their manufacture and use is not near to you (though nearer than you think). A bicycle is made of metals and plastics, which requires metal-ore mining (which requires mining machinery), refining (which requires an electricity industry), oil drilling and the chemical industry (plastics), fabrication of the parts, electroplating, paint, and so on. So you've got mining and oil industry, energy industry (all forms), chemical industry (lots of), manufacturing, and of course transport (all forms). * * * * Those things all rely on education, construction, security and emergency services, health services, and of course food. * Now, you consider using your bicycle to be pollution-free, because you don't burn petrol to move it, but you eat food, so we're back to oil drilling, and tractor manufacture, and transport (all forms) and the chemical industry, and we should also throw in the water and sewage industry, and yet more consruction, which is all backed up by education and health and security and so on, and so on. http://airtext.infoshows how the pollution is distributed over London this morning. Yes, shame on you! “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.” |
Another pollution from motor vehicles warning.
Squashme wrote:
“We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.” And wondering who to blame for those twinkly *******s spoiling the inky blackness of space? |
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