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Is Drillium Cool Again?
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:52:50 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
RonSonic wrote: Has drillium reached the age of retro cool? Or is it not yet time for it to appear again? I'm refitting an old bike and need to know whether to break out the drill press and start jigging things. The bar is higher now: http://www.raydobbins.com/ebay/bike-...s_for_sale.htm Got a couple hundred hours to spare? Nice. Amazing he can sell it for that given the time and parts budget this thing absorbed. But it's enough for him to afford to do another so it's probably enough. I don't even know who made my mongrel so we'll just let the thoroughbreds like that be. |
Is Drillium Cool Again?
someone wrote:
On 24 June, 05:33, jim beam wrote: someone wrote: On 24 June, 00:55, RonSonic wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:52:50 -0500, AMuzi wrote: RonSonic wrote: Has drillium reached the age of retro cool? Or is it not yet time for it to appear again? I'm refitting an old bike and need to know whether to break out the drill press and start jigging things. The bar is higher now: http://www.raydobbins.com/ebay/bike-...s_for_sale.htm Got a couple hundred hours to spare? Nice. Amazing he can sell it for that given the time and parts budget this thing absorbed. But it's enough for him to afford to do another so it's probably enough. I don't even know who made my mongrel so we'll just let the thoroughbreds like that be. Components usually end up getting polished and/or lightened because of crash damage. �Todays carbon parts will fetch a premiun in forty years time because few will survive the crash damage. eh? �that erroneously presumes it's as strong as traditional materials. � in fact, quality cfrp is stronger. �thus it'll break less frequently, not more. Absobloodylutely ' it'll ' break precisely once and be binned. No spares, no reconstruction, no polishing out the scuff marks. Broke and bin. eh? so you're going to "repair" a buckled tube? or straighten and use a bent brake lever? don't think so trevor! |
Is Drillium Cool Again?
RonSonic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:33:43 -0700, jim beam wrote: someone wrote: On 24 June, 00:55, RonSonic wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:52:50 -0500, AMuzi wrote: RonSonic wrote: Has drillium reached the age of retro cool? Or is it not yet time for it to appear again? I'm refitting an old bike and need to know whether to break out the drill press and start jigging things. The bar is higher now: http://www.raydobbins.com/ebay/bike-...s_for_sale.htm Got a couple hundred hours to spare? Nice. Amazing he can sell it for that given the time and parts budget this thing absorbed. But it's enough for him to afford to do another so it's probably enough. I don't even know who made my mongrel so we'll just let the thoroughbreds like that be. Components usually end up getting polished and/or lightened because of crash damage. Todays carbon parts will fetch a premiun in forty years time because few will survive the crash damage. eh? that erroneously presumes it's as strong as traditional materials. in fact, quality cfrp is stronger. thus it'll break less frequently, not more. We'll really have to see how it ages. My personal experience with carbon is limited but favorable. How well the stuff holds up for the general market will vary according to application and the implementation of new breakrhroughs in cutting corners. my cfrp commuter fork is 20 years old and is holding up just great. |
Is Drillium Cool Again?
On Jun 23, 6:55*pm, RonSonic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:52:50 -0500, AMuzi wrote: RonSonic wrote: Has drillium reached the age of retro cool? Or is it not yet time for it to appear again? I'm refitting an old bike and need to know whether to break out the drill press and start jigging things. The bar is higher now: http://www.raydobbins.com/ebay/bike-...s_for_sale.htm Got a couple hundred hours to spare? Nice. Amazing he can sell it for that given the time and parts budget this thing absorbed. I'm not sure the selling price is low or not. I suspect its actually way too high. The drilling out of the parts ruined these Nuove/Super Record parts for collecting value. So unless your plan is to actually ride the bike, its not worth much more than the frame. Not sure there is any collector value on Gios steel frames. I'm sure its an OK riding bike. And if you love friction shifting, its probably wonderful. But if you love friction shifting, then whatever you are riding right now will shift the same as this bike. No performance upgrade to be had. |
Is Drillium Cool Again?
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:17:05 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On Jun 23, 6:55*pm, RonSonic wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:52:50 -0500, AMuzi wrote: RonSonic wrote: Has drillium reached the age of retro cool? Or is it not yet time for it to appear again? I'm refitting an old bike and need to know whether to break out the drill press and start jigging things. The bar is higher now: http://www.raydobbins.com/ebay/bike-...s_for_sale.htm Got a couple hundred hours to spare? Nice. Amazing he can sell it for that given the time and parts budget this thing absorbed. I'm not sure the selling price is low or not. I suspect its actually way too high. The drilling out of the parts ruined these Nuove/Super Record parts for collecting value. Only if sold without the rest of the group and bike. So unless your plan is to actually ride the bike, its not worth much more than the frame. Not sure there is any collector value on Gios steel frames. I'm sure its an OK riding bike. And if you love friction shifting, its probably wonderful. But if you love friction shifting, then whatever you are riding right now will shift the same as this bike. No performance upgrade to be had. Except that the thing is gorgeous and my bike isn't. That's a fairly difficult to quantify form of performance but valid nonetheless. I would definitely plan on riding it. It is a weird folk art sort of aesthetic, I'll admit. But not different in character from well established forms like this, http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...ictureid=83414 Yes, that work is also "new." |
Is Drillium Cool Again?
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Is Drillium Cool Again?
On Jun 24, 7:59*pm, John Thompson wrote:
On 2009-06-24, wrote: And if you love friction shifting, its probably wonderful. *But if you love friction shifting, then whatever you are riding right now will shift the same as this bike. *No performance upgrade to be had. Meh. Campy friction shifters were nothing special. People who wanted better shifters installed Simplex "retrofriction" shifters instead of Campy. Only the dorks used Simplex. The hard core stuck with Campy friction shifters and suffered for fashion. It was a built in excuse for getting dropped out of a finishing sprint. That and defective toe clip straps. -- Jay Beattie. |
Is Drillium Cool Again?
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:37:24 -0400, Still Just Me...
wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:33:52 -0400, RonSonic wrote: Except that the thing is gorgeous and my bike isn't. That's a fairly difficult to quantify form of performance but valid nonetheless. I would definitely plan on riding it. Yep, you could ride as a masochistic experiment on which overly drilled component would fail first. Maybe you could get Vegas to run odds on it. It is a weird folk art sort of aesthetic, I'll admit. But not different in character from well established forms like this, http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...ictureid=83414 Yes, that work is also "new." Not available without login. Damn, I hate when that happens. This isn't the same photo or subject or even style of subject, but still awesome in its way: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/?p=3485 In the meantime, here's some bicycle art: http://sfgfc.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/bike-babe.jpg That's hot. |
Is Drillium Cool Again?
Jay Beattie wrote:
On Jun 24, 7:59 pm, John Thompson wrote: On 2009-06-24, wrote: And if you love friction shifting, its probably wonderful. But if you love friction shifting, then whatever you are riding right now will shift the same as this bike. No performance upgrade to be had. Meh. Campy friction shifters were nothing special. People who wanted better shifters installed Simplex "retrofriction" shifters instead of Campy. Only the dorks used Simplex. The hard core stuck with Campy friction shifters and suffered for fashion. It was a built in excuse for getting dropped out of a finishing sprint. That and defective toe clip straps. -- Jay Beattie. Huh. I though the usual protocol after losing a sprint was to throw the bicycle and yell at the mechanic. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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