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Ed December 4th 04 12:45 AM

Washington Post: A Rough Ride for Schwinn Bicycle
 
Registration required.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Dec2.html

If you still have not had enough politics enlarge the picture and look at the
lower left corner.


Mark December 4th 04 02:19 AM

Ed wrote:
Registration required.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Dec2.html



No registration needed here...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6642037/

maxo December 4th 04 05:17 PM

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 01:19:54 +0000, Mark wrote:

Ed wrote:
Registration required.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Dec2.html



No registration needed here...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6642037/


You all need bugmenot to bypass such pesky registration.

bugmenot.com

works great with Firefox.

B-)


dgk December 4th 04 11:50 PM

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:17:47 GMT, maxo wrote:

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 01:19:54 +0000, Mark wrote:

Ed wrote:
Registration required.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Dec2.html



No registration needed here...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6642037/


You all need bugmenot to bypass such pesky registration.

bugmenot.com

works great with Firefox.

B-)


Wow, that was depressing. Yup, cheaper bikes but cheaper jobs.

Scott December 6th 04 10:47 PM

dgk wrote:
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:17:47 GMT, maxo wrote:


On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 01:19:54 +0000, Mark wrote:


Ed wrote:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Dec2.html


No registration needed here...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6642037/



Wow, that was depressing. Yup, cheaper bikes but cheaper jobs.



The articlef left out that Pacfic Bicycle's headquarters
are on a bike path. Well, a MUP, at least. It's also
across the street from Sub-Zero. Just in case you were
wondering :)

Scott


Mark Leuck December 7th 04 12:25 AM


"dgk" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:17:47 GMT, maxo wrote:

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 01:19:54 +0000, Mark wrote:

Ed wrote:
Registration required.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Dec2.html


No registration needed here...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6642037/


You all need bugmenot to bypass such pesky registration.

bugmenot.com

works great with Firefox.

B-)


Wow, that was depressing. Yup, cheaper bikes but cheaper jobs.


Typical story of an old company that couldn't move with the market



dgk December 7th 04 01:33 AM

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 23:25:27 GMT, "Mark Leuck"
wrote:


"dgk" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:17:47 GMT, maxo wrote:

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 01:19:54 +0000, Mark wrote:

Ed wrote:
Registration required.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Dec2.html


No registration needed here...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6642037/

You all need bugmenot to bypass such pesky registration.

bugmenot.com

works great with Firefox.

B-)


Wow, that was depressing. Yup, cheaper bikes but cheaper jobs.


Typical story of an old company that couldn't move with the market

Really the story of a company that tried to maintain the salary
structure that paid living wages. More good paying jobs gone forever.

Mark Leuck December 7th 04 02:21 AM


"dgk" wrote in message
...

Typical story of an old company that couldn't move with the market

Really the story of a company that tried to maintain the salary
structure that paid living wages. More good paying jobs gone forever.


Re-read the article

"As tastes began to change, however, Schwinn didn't. It continued to churn
out the same heavy, tough-to-maneuver bikes that had been the mainstay of
the industry for decades. "Durable? Yes. Lasts forever? You bet," said Jay
Townley, an industry consultant and former Schwinn executive. "What the
customer wanted? No.""

Schwinn made low-end bikes and that market became saturated, had they tried
to move more upscale things might have been different.

Were they hurt by overseas competition? sure

Did they bring most of it on themselves? yup



dgk December 7th 04 05:24 PM

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 01:21:41 GMT, "Mark Leuck"
wrote:


"dgk" wrote in message
.. .

Typical story of an old company that couldn't move with the market

Really the story of a company that tried to maintain the salary
structure that paid living wages. More good paying jobs gone forever.


Re-read the article

"As tastes began to change, however, Schwinn didn't. It continued to churn
out the same heavy, tough-to-maneuver bikes that had been the mainstay of
the industry for decades. "Durable? Yes. Lasts forever? You bet," said Jay
Townley, an industry consultant and former Schwinn executive. "What the
customer wanted? No.""

Schwinn made low-end bikes and that market became saturated, had they tried
to move more upscale things might have been different.

Were they hurt by overseas competition? sure

Did they bring most of it on themselves? yup

Yes, that is in there. I don't really recall Schwinn as being
tough-to-manuever though. I guess that means heavy. I think I did have
a Schwinn when I was a kid.

Right after I read this I was at Target and saw the Stingray. It was
more of a scooter than a bike though. I guess there are more than one
type of Schwinn Stingray.

Mark Leuck December 8th 04 06:21 AM


"dgk" wrote in message
...

Yes, that is in there. I don't really recall Schwinn as being
tough-to-manuever though. I guess that means heavy. I think I did have
a Schwinn when I was a kid.


I too "think" I had a Schwinn when I was a kid and that was much of the
problem, had they gone more upscale we would have continued buying them as
we grew older and desired better equipment. by looking at bike technology in
the last 20 years you won't find Schwinn anywere, they didn't do performance
like many others

If I remember correctly my Schwinn was a hand-me-down




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