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Tºm Shermªn °_° July 6th 11 05:46 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
This should solve the problem, though I imagine the price will be high:
http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.

It would also make transporting and going through doors and/or up and
down stairs more easy with a SWB 'bent or tadpole trike.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Mike Vandeman[_4_] July 6th 11 01:22 PM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 5, 9:46*pm, Tºm Shermªn °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
This should solve the problem, though I imagine the price will be high:
http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.

It would also make transporting and going through doors and/or up and
down stairs more easy with a SWB 'bent or tadpole trike.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.


A much better solution: stick to pavement, and stop destroying
wildlife habitat. Sheesh.

David Scheidt July 6th 11 01:45 PM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
In rec.bicycles.tech Mike Vandeman wrote:
:On Jul 5, 9:46Â*pm, Tºm Shermªn °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
:$southslope.net" wrote:
: This should solve the problem, though I imagine the price will be high:
: http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.
:
: It would also make transporting and going through doors and/or up and
: down stairs more easy with a SWB 'bent or tadpole trike.
:
: --
: Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
: I am a vehicular cyclist.

:A much better solution: stick to pavement, and stop destroying
:wildlife habitat. Sheesh.

Says the man who wonders around other people's property with a saw.

--
sig 3

(PeteCresswell) July 6th 11 02:33 PM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
Per Tºm Shermªn °_° ":
http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.


They lost me on the "Variable chainring with 23,24,25 allow...."
--
PeteCresswell

Opus[_2_] July 6th 11 03:58 PM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 6, 7:22*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Jul 5, 9:46*pm, Tºm Shermªn °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI

$southslope.net" wrote:
This should solve the problem, though I imagine the price will be high:
http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.


It would also make transporting and going through doors and/or up and
down stairs more easy with a SWB 'bent or tadpole trike.


--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.


A much better solution: stick to pavement, and stop destroying
wildlife habitat. Sheesh.


How much wildlife habitat is there indoors? Also SWB 'bents and
tadpole trikes ARE pavement vehicles, not MTB. Your obsession is
tiresome.

Kerry Montgomery July 6th 11 07:12 PM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 

"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
...
Per Tºm Shermªn °_° ":
http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.


They lost me on the "Variable chainring with 23,24,25 allow...."
--
PeteCresswell


Pete,
I think that means that you can fit either a 23 or 24 or 25 tooth chainring,
giving some flexibility in your overall gear ratio.
As Tom says, probably 'way too expensive, but it would keep the big ring on
my recumbent trike from touching the pavement when loading/unloading it from
the back of my car.
Kerry



Chalo July 6th 11 07:41 PM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
T∇m Sherm∆n wrote:

This should solve the problem, though I imagine the price will be high:
http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.

It would also make transporting and going through doors and/or up and
down stairs more easy with a SWB 'bent or tadpole trike.


Truvativ/SRAM have been making something like that for a while now.
I'm sure it is expensive but probably less so than Monsieur Schlumpf's
ingenious marvel.

http://www.sicklines.com/2008/08/21/...hammerschmidt/

Chalo

James[_8_] July 6th 11 10:45 PM

[OT] habitat
 
Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Jul 5, 9:46 pm, Tºm Shermªn °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
This should solve the problem, though I imagine the price will be high:
http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.

It would also make transporting and going through doors and/or up and
down stairs more easy with a SWB 'bent or tadpole trike.


A much better solution: stick to pavement, and stop destroying
wildlife habitat. Sheesh.


Marvelous how habitat grows back. I see it regularly in bush camping
areas. "This area is closed for revegetation."

They could speed up the process. The saying here is "Fertilize the
bush, dozing in a Greenie."

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=fertilise+t...e+in+a+greenie

--
JS.

(PeteCresswell) July 7th 11 12:54 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
Per Kerry Montgomery:
I think that means that you can fit either a 23 or 24 or 25 tooth chainring,
giving some flexibility in your overall gear ratio.


I got that part, but who runs 23-25 teeth on the front chain
ring?
--
PeteCresswell

Tºm Shermªn °_° July 7th 11 01:23 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On 7/6/2011 6:54 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Kerry Montgomery:
I think that means that you can fit either a 23 or 24 or 25 tooth chainring,
giving some flexibility in your overall gear ratio.


I got that part, but who runs 23-25 teeth on the front chain
ring?


That is one of the two points of this particular version of the Schlumpf
2-speed bottom bracket (the other is a wider gear range than is possible
with stock chainrings and front derailers - or to wider the gearing
range where a front derailer is not practical to use).

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

(PeteCresswell) July 7th 11 01:38 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
Per Tºm Shermªn °_° ":
That is one of the two points of this particular version of the Schlumpf
2-speed bottom bracket (the other is a wider gear range than is possible
with stock chainrings and front derailers - or to wider the gearing
range where a front derailer is not practical to use).


Ok... it's starting to soak in now: This thing actually delivers
chain movement per pedal stroke that corresponds to
conventional-sized front rings on conventional setups.
--
PeteCresswell

AMuzi July 7th 11 02:24 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Kerry Montgomery:
I think that means that you can fit either a 23 or 24 or 25 tooth chainring,
giving some flexibility in your overall gear ratio.


I got that part, but who runs 23-25 teeth on the front chain
ring?


Most 20" freestyle riders with a 9t cassette wheel.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

James[_8_] July 7th 11 02:26 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Tºm Shermªn °_° ":
That is one of the two points of this particular version of the Schlumpf
2-speed bottom bracket (the other is a wider gear range than is possible
with stock chainrings and front derailers - or to wider the gearing
range where a front derailer is not practical to use).


Ok... it's starting to soak in now: This thing actually delivers
chain movement per pedal stroke that corresponds to
conventional-sized front rings on conventional setups.


I hope the CRs are made of hard steel.

--
JS.

Mike Vandeman[_4_] July 7th 11 06:33 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 6, 5:45*am, David Scheidt wrote:
In rec.bicycles.tech Mike Vandeman wrote:
:On Jul 5, 9:46*pm, Tºm Shermªn °_° " wrote:

: This should solve the problem, though I imagine the price will be high:
: http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.
:
: It would also make transporting and going through doors and/or up and
: down stairs more easy with a SWB 'bent or tadpole trike.
:
: --
: Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
: I am a vehicular cyclist.

:A much better solution: stick to pavement, and stop destroying
:wildlife habitat. Sheesh.

Says the man who wonders around other people's property with a saw. *


Restoring habitat -- something you obviously know nothng about..

Tºm Shermªn °_° July 7th 11 06:41 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On 7/7/2011 12:33 AM, Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman wrote:
On Jul 6, 5:45�am, David wrote:
In rec.bicycles.tech Mike wrote:
:On Jul 5, 9:46�pm, T�m Sherm�n " wrote:

: This should solve the problem, though I imagine the price will be high:
: http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.
:
: It would also make transporting and going through doors and/or up and
: down stairs more easy with a SWB 'bent or tadpole trike.
:
: --
: T�m Sherm�n - 42.435731,-83.985007
: I am a vehicular cyclist.

:A much better solution: stick to pavement, and stop destroying
:wildlife habitat. Sheesh.

Says the man who wonders around other people's property with a saw. �


Restoring habitat -- something you obviously know nothng about..


Is restoring habitat part of your court mandated public service work?

How is a HANDSAW used while restoring habitat?

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

AMuzi July 7th 11 08:17 PM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
Tºm Shermªn °_° wrote:
On 7/7/2011 12:33 AM, Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman wrote:
On Jul 6, 5:45�am, David wrote:
In rec.bicycles.tech Mike wrote:
:On Jul 5, 9:46�pm, T�m Sherm�n
" wrote:

: This should solve the problem, though I imagine the price will be
high:
: http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.
:
: It would also make transporting and going through doors and/or up
and
: down stairs more easy with a SWB 'bent or tadpole trike.
:
: --
: T�m Sherm�n - 42.435731,-83.985007
: I am a vehicular cyclist.

:A much better solution: stick to pavement, and stop destroying
:wildlife habitat. Sheesh.

Says the man who wonders around other people's property with a saw. �


Restoring habitat -- something you obviously know nothng about..


Is restoring habitat part of your court mandated public service work?

How is a HANDSAW used while restoring habitat?



Please don't shoot spitballs at the troll.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Chalo July 7th 11 08:42 PM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
Phil W Lee wrote:

T•m Sherm&n wrote

How is a HANDSAW used while restoring habitat?


It's used for removing branches that make the area an unsuitable
habitat for hikers.
And for attacking anyone he doesn't think should be there.


When he isn't using it as a weapon, I understand that Mike Vandeman
uses his saw to cut Genista, a nice-looking but invasive and
allergenic woody shrub.

Yes, it's funny that MV sees fit to remove species he considers
invasive, while actually representing the most invasive and
destructive species of all (and acting the part). And then he attacks
people in various ways for doing exactly what he's doing, minus the
gratuitous killing of wild plants.

Chalo

AMuzi July 7th 11 08:56 PM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
Chalo wrote:
Phil W Lee wrote:
T•m Sherm&n wrote
How is a HANDSAW used while restoring habitat?

It's used for removing branches that make the area an unsuitable
habitat for hikers.
And for attacking anyone he doesn't think should be there.


When he isn't using it as a weapon, I understand that Mike Vandeman
uses his saw to cut Genista, a nice-looking but invasive and
allergenic woody shrub.

Yes, it's funny that MV sees fit to remove species he considers
invasive, while actually representing the most invasive and
destructive species of all (and acting the part). And then he attacks
people in various ways for doing exactly what he's doing, minus the
gratuitous killing of wild plants.

Chalo


An oft-told story.

At least we made maize victorious over teocinte and
sensimilla pays much better than our midwest hemp ditchweed.

I wonder if Mike would come introduce my dandelions to The
Righteous Scythe of Death?

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

James[_8_] July 7th 11 11:02 PM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
AMuzi wrote:
Chalo wrote:
Phil W Lee wrote:
T•m Sherm&n wrote
How is a HANDSAW used while restoring habitat?
It's used for removing branches that make the area an unsuitable
habitat for hikers.
And for attacking anyone he doesn't think should be there.


When he isn't using it as a weapon, I understand that Mike Vandeman
uses his saw to cut Genista, a nice-looking but invasive and
allergenic woody shrub.

Yes, it's funny that MV sees fit to remove species he considers
invasive, while actually representing the most invasive and
destructive species of all (and acting the part). And then he attacks
people in various ways for doing exactly what he's doing, minus the
gratuitous killing of wild plants.

Chalo


An oft-told story.

At least we made maize victorious over teocinte and sensimilla pays much
better than our midwest hemp ditchweed.

I wonder if Mike would come introduce my dandelions to The Righteous
Scythe of Death?


The salmon mousse!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoBTsMJ4jNk

--
JS.

Tºm Shermªn °_° July 8th 11 03:11 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On 7/6/2011 1:12 PM, Kerry Montgomery wrote:
wrote in message
...
Per T�m Sherm�n ":
http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.


They lost me on the "Variable chainring with 23,24,25 allow...."
--
PeteCresswell


Pete,
I think that means that you can fit either a 23 or 24 or 25 tooth chainring,
giving some flexibility in your overall gear ratio.
As Tom says, probably 'way too expensive, but it would keep the big ring on
my recumbent trike from touching the pavement when loading/unloading it from
the back of my car.
Kerry


What trike did you end up with?

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Kerry Montgomery July 8th 11 05:00 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 

"Tºm Shermªn °_°" " wrote in message
...
On 7/6/2011 1:12 PM, Kerry Montgomery wrote:
wrote in message
...
Per T?m Sherm?n ":
http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.

They lost me on the "Variable chainring with 23,24,25 allow...."
--
PeteCresswell


Pete,
I think that means that you can fit either a 23 or 24 or 25 tooth
chainring,
giving some flexibility in your overall gear ratio.
As Tom says, probably 'way too expensive, but it would keep the big ring
on
my recumbent trike from touching the pavement when loading/unloading it
from
the back of my car.
Kerry


What trike did you end up with?

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.


Tom,
Got an HP Velotechnik Scorpion fx with the tallest seat option. Very happy
with it so far.
Thanks,
Kerry



Mike Vandeman[_4_] July 8th 11 08:12 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 6, 10:41*pm, Tºm Shermªn °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/7/2011 12:33 AM, Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman wrote:





On Jul 6, 5:45 am, David *wrote:
In rec.bicycles.tech Mike *wrote:
:On Jul 5, 9:46 pm, T m Sherm n _ " *wrote:


: *This should solve the problem, though I imagine the price will be high:
: *http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.
:
: *It would also make transporting and going through doors and/or up and
: *down stairs more easy with a SWB 'bent or tadpole trike.
:
: *--
: *T m Sherm n - 42.435731,-83.985007
: *I am a vehicular cyclist.


:A much better solution: stick to pavement, and stop destroying
:wildlife habitat. Sheesh.


Says the man who wonders around other people's property with a saw.


Restoring habitat -- something you obviously know nothng about..


Is restoring habitat part of your court mandated public service work?


Yes.

How is a HANDSAW used while restoring habitat?


Removing exotic species.

Mike Vandeman[_4_] July 8th 11 08:13 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 7, 7:44*am, Phil W Lee wrote:
Tºm Shermªn °_° " considered
Thu, 07 Jul 2011 00:41:15 -0500 the perfect time to write:





On 7/7/2011 12:33 AM, Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman wrote:
On Jul 6, 5:45?am, David *wrote:
In rec.bicycles.tech Mike *wrote:
:On Jul 5, 9:46?pm, T?m Sherm?n " *wrote:


: *This should solve the problem, though I imagine the price will be high:
: *http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.
:
: *It would also make transporting and going through doors and/or up and
: *down stairs more easy with a SWB 'bent or tadpole trike.
:
: *--
: *T?m Sherm?n - 42.435731,-83.985007
: *I am a vehicular cyclist.


:A much better solution: stick to pavement, and stop destroying
:wildlife habitat. Sheesh.


Says the man who wonders around other people's property with a saw. ?


Restoring habitat -- something you obviously know nothng about..


Is restoring habitat part of your court mandated public service work?


How is a HANDSAW used while restoring habitat?


It's used for removing branches that make the area an unsuitable
habitat for hikers.
And for attacking anyone he doesn't think should be there.- Hide quoted text -


Can you say "charge dismissed", liar?

Mike Vandeman[_4_] July 8th 11 08:14 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 7, 12:42*pm, Chalo wrote:
Phil W Lee wrote:

T•m Sherm&n wrote


How is a HANDSAW used while restoring habitat?


It's used for removing branches that make the area an unsuitable
habitat for hikers.
And for attacking anyone he doesn't think should be there.


When he isn't using it as a weapon, I understand that Mike Vandeman
uses his saw to cut Genista, a nice-looking but invasive and
allergenic woody shrub.

Yes, it's funny that MV sees fit to remove species he considers
invasive, while actually representing the most invasive and
destructive species of all (and acting the part). *And then he attacks
people in various ways for doing exactly what he's doing, minus the
gratuitous killing of wild plants.


BS.

Tºm Shermªn °_° July 8th 11 11:58 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On 7/8/2011 2:12 AM, Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman wrote:
On Jul 6, 10:41�pm, T�m Sherm�n �_�""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/7/2011 12:33 AM, Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman wrote:





On Jul 6, 5:45 am, David �wrote:
In rec.bicycles.tech Mike �wrote:
:On Jul 5, 9:46 pm, T m Sherm n " �wrote:


: �This should solve the problem, though I imagine the price will be high:
: �http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.
:
: �It would also make transporting and going through doors and/or up and
: �down stairs more easy with a SWB 'bent or tadpole trike.
:
: �--
: �T m Sherm n - 42.435731,-83.985007
: �I am a vehicular cyclist.


:A much better solution: stick to pavement, and stop destroying
:wildlife habitat. Sheesh.


Says the man who wonders around other people's property with a saw.


Restoring habitat -- something you obviously know nothng about..


Is restoring habitat part of your court mandated public service work?


Yes.

How is a HANDSAW used while restoring habitat?


Removing exotic species.


And attacking mountain bikers.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Mike Vandeman[_4_] July 9th 11 09:04 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 8, 3:58*am, Tºm Shermªn °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/8/2011 2:12 AM, Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman wrote:





On Jul 6, 10:41 pm, T m Sherm n _ ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" *wrote:
On 7/7/2011 12:33 AM, Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman wrote:


On Jul 6, 5:45 am, David * wrote:
In rec.bicycles.tech Mike * wrote:
:On Jul 5, 9:46 pm, T m Sherm n " * wrote:


: * This should solve the problem, though I imagine the price will be high:
: * http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.
:
: * It would also make transporting and going through doors and/or up and
: * down stairs more easy with a SWB 'bent or tadpole trike.
:
: * --
: * T m Sherm n - 42.435731,-83.985007
: * I am a vehicular cyclist.


:A much better solution: stick to pavement, and stop destroying
:wildlife habitat. Sheesh.


Says the man who wonders around other people's property with a saw.


Restoring habitat -- something you obviously know nothng about..


Is restoring habitat part of your court mandated public service work?


Yes.


How is a HANDSAW used while restoring habitat?


Removing exotic species.


And attacking mountain bikers.


Can you say "charge dismissed"? I didn't think so. Do you lie because
you took up mountain biking, or were you always a liar? That makes
everything you say worthess.

Chalo July 9th 11 09:15 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
Mike Vandeman wrote:

Tخm Shermشn wrote:

How is a HANDSAW used while restoring habitat?


Removing exotic species.


AKA killing wild plants.

What was it you get so torqued up at mountain bikers about?

Chalo

Tºm Shermªn °_° July 9th 11 01:53 PM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On 7/9/2011 3:04 AM, Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman wrote:
On Jul 8, 3:58�am, T�m Sherm�n �_�""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/8/2011 2:12 AM, Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman wrote:





On Jul 6, 10:41 pm, T m Sherm n _""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" �wrote:
On 7/7/2011 12:33 AM, Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman wrote:


On Jul 6, 5:45 am, David � wrote:
In rec.bicycles.tech Mike � wrote:
:On Jul 5, 9:46 pm, T m Sherm n " � wrote:


: � This should solve the problem, though I imagine the price will be high:
: �http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.
:
: � It would also make transporting and going through doors and/or up and
: � down stairs more easy with a SWB 'bent or tadpole trike.
:
: � --
: � T m Sherm n - 42.435731,-83.985007
: � I am a vehicular cyclist.


:A much better solution: stick to pavement, and stop destroying
:wildlife habitat. Sheesh.


Says the man who wonders around other people's property with a saw.


Restoring habitat -- something you obviously know nothng about..


Is restoring habitat part of your court mandated public service work?


Yes.


How is a HANDSAW used while restoring habitat?


Removing exotic species.


And attacking mountain bikers.


Can you say "charge dismissed"? I didn't think so. Do you lie because
you took up mountain biking, or were you always a liar? That makes
everything you say worthess.


What about the 3 charges you were convicted on, Mikey?

You should thank your lawyer for keeping the jury in ignorance of your
past behavior and attitude, or it would have been convictions on all 6
counts.

Just remember this - judges are much harder on *repeat* offenders and
probation violators.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Mike Vandeman[_4_] July 10th 11 08:16 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 9, 1:15Â*am, Chalo wrote:
Mike Vandeman wrote:

Â*TØ®m ShermØ´n wrote:


How is a HANDSAW used while restoring habitat?


Removing exotic species.


AKA killing wild plants.


Which benefits the native species.

What was it you get so torqued up at mountain bikers about?


See my website(s). Do your homework,

Mike Vandeman[_4_] July 10th 11 08:19 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 9, 5:53*am, Tºm Shermªn °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/9/2011 3:04 AM, Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman wrote:





On Jul 8, 3:58 am, T m Sherm n _ ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" *wrote:
On 7/8/2011 2:12 AM, Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman wrote:


On Jul 6, 10:41 pm, T m Sherm n _""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" * wrote:
On 7/7/2011 12:33 AM, Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman wrote:


On Jul 6, 5:45 am, David * wrote:
In rec.bicycles.tech Mike * wrote:
:On Jul 5, 9:46 pm, T m Sherm n " * wrote:


: * This should solve the problem, though I imagine the price will be high:
: * http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html.
:
: * It would also make transporting and going through doors and/or up and
: * down stairs more easy with a SWB 'bent or tadpole trike.
:
: * --
: * T m Sherm n - 42.435731,-83.985007
: * I am a vehicular cyclist.


:A much better solution: stick to pavement, and stop destroying
:wildlife habitat. Sheesh.


Says the man who wonders around other people's property with a saw..


Restoring habitat -- something you obviously know nothng about..


Is restoring habitat part of your court mandated public service work?


Yes.


How is a HANDSAW used while restoring habitat?


Removing exotic species.


And attacking mountain bikers.


Can you say "charge dismissed"? I didn't think so. Do you lie because
you took up mountain biking, or were you always a liar? That makes
everything you say worthess.


What about the 3 charges you were convicted on, Mikey?


I see that you know just as little about this as about everything
else. Nothing valid. It was all based on mountain bikers' lies.

You should thank your lawyer for keeping the jury in ignorance of your
past behavior and attitude, or it would have been convictions on all 6
counts.


You obviously know NOTHING.

Just remember this - judges are much harder on *repeat* offenders and
probation violators.


Since I don't have any violations, I can't have any repeat violations.
DUH!

Opus[_2_] July 10th 11 03:23 PM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 10, 2:19*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
snip
Just remember this - judges are much harder on *repeat* offenders and
probation violators.


Since I don't have any violations, I can't have any repeat violations.
DUH!


You were convicted of 3 counts and you are on probation for the next 3
(well 2 1/2 now) years. This is a matter of public record. Stop living
in denial. It isn't healthy.

Mike Vandeman[_4_] July 11th 11 01:40 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 10, 7:23*am, Opus wrote:
On Jul 10, 2:19*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:

snip
Just remember this - judges are much harder on *repeat* offenders and
probation violators.


Since I don't have any violations, I can't have any repeat violations.
DUH!


You were convicted of 3 counts and you are on probation for the next 3
(well 2 1/2 now) years. This is a matter of public record. Stop living
in denial. It isn't healthy.


You are the one in denial. A conviction, based on lies, is worthless.
It proves NOTHING. Thanks for demonstrating just how ignorant you are.
All you are proving is that mountain bikers wanted to see me punished,
and were willing to commit PERJURY, in order to make that happen. The
joke is on them. Mountain bikers are their own worst enemies. All they
ever do is prove to the world how scummy and dishonest they are.

Tºm Shermªn °_° July 11th 11 02:24 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On 7/10/2011 7:40 PM, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Jul 10, 7:23 am, wrote:
On Jul 10, 2:19 am, Mike wrote:

snip
Just remember this - judges are much harder on *repeat* offenders and
probation violators.


Since I don't have any violations, I can't have any repeat violations.
DUH!


You were convicted of 3 counts and you are on probation for the next 3
(well 2 1/2 now) years. This is a matter of public record. Stop living
in denial. It isn't healthy.


You are the one in denial. A conviction, based on lies, is worthless.
It proves NOTHING. Thanks for demonstrating just how ignorant you are.
All you are proving is that mountain bikers wanted to see me punished,
and were willing to commit PERJURY, in order to make that happen. The
joke is on them. Mountain bikers are their own worst enemies. All they
ever do is prove to the world how scummy and dishonest they are.


Does your probation officer read these posts? No early release for
Mikey with this attitude.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Mike Vandeman[_4_] July 11th 11 07:02 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 10, 6:24*pm, Tºm Shermªn °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/10/2011 7:40 PM, Mike Vandeman wrote:





On Jul 10, 7:23 am, *wrote:
On Jul 10, 2:19 am, Mike *wrote:


snip
Just remember this - judges are much harder on *repeat* offenders and
probation violators.


Since I don't have any violations, I can't have any repeat violations..
DUH!


You were convicted of 3 counts and you are on probation for the next 3
(well 2 1/2 now) years. This is a matter of public record. Stop living
in denial. It isn't healthy.


You are the one in denial. A conviction, based on lies, is worthless.
It proves NOTHING. Thanks for demonstrating just how ignorant you are.
All you are proving is that mountain bikers wanted to see me punished,
and were willing to commit PERJURY, in order to make that happen. The
joke is on them. Mountain bikers are their own worst enemies. All they
ever do is prove to the world how scummy and dishonest they are.


Does your probation officer read these posts? *No early release for
Mikey with this attitude.


Ed is right: you are unteachable. I don't have a probation officer.
Why would you want to establish a reputation as a liar and an
unreliable source of information. Everything that comes out of your
mouth is WORTHLESS, as you are WORTHLESS.

Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W
I am a vehicular cyclist.


Tºm Shermªn °_° July 11th 11 07:17 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On 7/11/2011 1:02 AM, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Jul 10, 6:24�pm, T�m Sherm�n �_�""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/10/2011 7:40 PM, Mike Vandeman wrote:





On Jul 10, 7:23 am, �wrote:
On Jul 10, 2:19 am, Mike �wrote:


snip
Just remember this - judges are much harder on *repeat* offenders and
probation violators.


Since I don't have any violations, I can't have any repeat violations.
DUH!


You were convicted of 3 counts and you are on probation for the next 3
(well 2 1/2 now) years. This is a matter of public record. Stop living
in denial. It isn't healthy.


You are the one in denial. A conviction, based on lies, is worthless.
It proves NOTHING. Thanks for demonstrating just how ignorant you are.
All you are proving is that mountain bikers wanted to see me punished,
and were willing to commit PERJURY, in order to make that happen. The
joke is on them. Mountain bikers are their own worst enemies. All they
ever do is prove to the world how scummy and dishonest they are.


Does your probation officer read these posts? �No early release for
Mikey with this attitude.


Ed is right: you are unteachable. I don't have a probation officer.
Why would you want to establish a reputation as a liar and an
unreliable source of information. Everything that comes out of your
mouth is WORTHLESS, as you are WORTHLESS.


Not sure which is more ridiculous:

- Lying about not having a probation officer,
- Citing Ed Dolan as a source.

Contact information: http://www.acgov.org/probation/contactus.htm.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Mike Vandeman[_4_] July 12th 11 01:07 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 10, 11:17*pm, Tºm Shermªn °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/11/2011 1:02 AM, Mike Vandeman wrote:





On Jul 10, 6:24 pm, T m Sherm n _ ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" *wrote:
On 7/10/2011 7:40 PM, Mike Vandeman wrote:


On Jul 10, 7:23 am, * wrote:
On Jul 10, 2:19 am, Mike * wrote:


snip
Just remember this - judges are much harder on *repeat* offenders and
probation violators.


Since I don't have any violations, I can't have any repeat violations.
DUH!


You were convicted of 3 counts and you are on probation for the next 3
(well 2 1/2 now) years. This is a matter of public record. Stop living
in denial. It isn't healthy.


You are the one in denial. A conviction, based on lies, is worthless.
It proves NOTHING. Thanks for demonstrating just how ignorant you are..
All you are proving is that mountain bikers wanted to see me punished,
and were willing to commit PERJURY, in order to make that happen. The
joke is on them. Mountain bikers are their own worst enemies. All they
ever do is prove to the world how scummy and dishonest they are.


Does your probation officer read these posts? No early release for
Mikey with this attitude.


Ed is right: you are unteachable. I don't have a probation officer.
Why would you want to establish a reputation as a liar and an
unreliable source of information. Everything that comes out of your
mouth is WORTHLESS, as you are WORTHLESS.


Not sure which is more ridiculous:

- Lying about not having a probation officer,


I'm not lyng, but you are. Tell me who my "probation officer" is,
smart ass. I know you can't. You are 100% FAKE.

Dan O July 12th 11 03:50 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 11, 5:07 pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Jul 10, 11:17 pm, Tºm Shermªn °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI



$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/11/2011 1:02 AM, Mike Vandeman wrote:


On Jul 10, 6:24 pm, T m Sherm n _ ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/10/2011 7:40 PM, Mike Vandeman wrote:


On Jul 10, 7:23 am, wrote:
On Jul 10, 2:19 am, Mike wrote:


snip
Just remember this - judges are much harder on *repeat* offenders and
probation violators.


Since I don't have any violations, I can't have any repeat violations.
DUH!


You were convicted of 3 counts and you are on probation for the next 3
(well 2 1/2 now) years. This is a matter of public record. Stop living
in denial. It isn't healthy.


You are the one in denial. A conviction, based on lies, is worthless.
It proves NOTHING. Thanks for demonstrating just how ignorant you are.
All you are proving is that mountain bikers wanted to see me punished,
and were willing to commit PERJURY, in order to make that happen. The
joke is on them. Mountain bikers are their own worst enemies. All they
ever do is prove to the world how scummy and dishonest they are.


Does your probation officer read these posts? No early release for
Mikey with this attitude.


Ed is right: you are unteachable. I don't have a probation officer.
Why would you want to establish a reputation as a liar and an
unreliable source of information. Everything that comes out of your
mouth is WORTHLESS, as you are WORTHLESS.


Not sure which is more ridiculous:


- Lying about not having a probation officer,


I'm not lyng, but you are. Tell me who my "probation officer" is,
smart ass. I know you can't. You are 100% FAKE.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gu...tanProfile.jpg
(?)

[email protected] July 12th 11 09:53 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 8, 1:14 am, Mike Vandeman wrote:

BS.


Not BS.

Multiple studies show that hikers have as much negative impact on
wildlife habitat as mtn bikers.

So go scythe yourself, hypocrite.

[email protected] July 12th 11 09:57 AM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 6, 5:54 pm, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote:

I got that part, but who runs 23-25 teeth on the front chain
ring?


The Devil. (mtn bikers)


Mike Vandeman[_4_] July 12th 11 05:40 PM

Solution to Bashed Chainrings?
 
On Jul 11, 5:07*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Jul 10, 11:17*pm, Tºm Shermªn °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI





$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/11/2011 1:02 AM, Mike Vandeman wrote:


On Jul 10, 6:24 pm, T m Sherm n _ ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" *wrote:
On 7/10/2011 7:40 PM, Mike Vandeman wrote:


On Jul 10, 7:23 am, * wrote:
On Jul 10, 2:19 am, Mike * wrote:


snip
Just remember this - judges are much harder on *repeat* offenders and
probation violators.


Since I don't have any violations, I can't have any repeat violations.
DUH!


You were convicted of 3 counts and you are on probation for the next 3
(well 2 1/2 now) years. This is a matter of public record. Stop living
in denial. It isn't healthy.


You are the one in denial. A conviction, based on lies, is worthless.
It proves NOTHING. Thanks for demonstrating just how ignorant you are.
All you are proving is that mountain bikers wanted to see me punished,
and were willing to commit PERJURY, in order to make that happen. The
joke is on them. Mountain bikers are their own worst enemies. All they
ever do is prove to the world how scummy and dishonest they are.


Does your probation officer read these posts? No early release for
Mikey with this attitude.


Ed is right: you are unteachable. I don't have a probation officer.
Why would you want to establish a reputation as a liar and an
unreliable source of information. Everything that comes out of your
mouth is WORTHLESS, as you are WORTHLESS.


Not sure which is more ridiculous:


- Lying about not having a probation officer,


I'm not lyng, but you are. Tell me who my "probation officer" is,
smart ass. I know you can't. You are 100% FAKE.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Cat got your tongue suddenly, Tommy Sherman? Can't answer my question?
Can't prove you aren't a FAKE?


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