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AMuzi April 22nd 20 03:27 PM

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China continues in its campaign to thwart the first
President who has pushed back on their 30-year Plan.

Trouble is, 'facts are stubborn things'. (hat tip to John Adams)

https://710wor.iheart.com/featured/m...e-coronavirus/
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www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


SMS April 22nd 20 05:33 PM

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On 4/22/2020 7:27 AM, AMuzi wrote:
China continues in its campaign to thwart the first President who has
pushed back on their 30-year Plan.

Trouble is, 'facts are stubborn things'. (hat tip to John Adams)

https://710wor.iheart.com/featured/m...e-coronavirus/


Facts are stubborn things. Too bad Mark Simone didn't have any in that rant.


jOHN b. April 22nd 20 11:57 PM

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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 09:27:26 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

China continues in its campaign to thwart the first
President who has pushed back on their 30-year Plan.

Trouble is, 'facts are stubborn things'. (hat tip to John Adams)

https://710wor.iheart.com/featured/m...e-coronavirus/


Ah... But
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donal...b03aed50f4725d
lists some 15,413 lies told by the Golden Boy while your post seems to
list 10 cases where he told the truth. As in baseball 15,000 runs
versus 10 runs?
--
cheers,

John B.


[email protected] April 23rd 20 01:06 AM

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47,750 dead USA citizens as of 7 PM CDT on April 22, 2020 due to the COVID-19 virus.

As for the question by Ride a Lot about whether Hillary Clinton would have handled the virus better, yes. She would have believed her advisers in Nov, Dec 2019, Jan 2020 when they told her about the virus in China. When Trump was told about it. She would have started the containment, preparations for it. She would not have gone on TV for three months saying it was a Republican hoax and a lie and it was not a danger at all. And the USA was beating it. And the flu is deadlier than this virus. And hydrocloroquine something is a miracle cure we already have. 47,750 dead Americans later.



On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 9:27:32 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
China continues in its campaign to thwart the first
President who has pushed back on their 30-year Plan.

Trouble is, 'facts are stubborn things'. (hat tip to John Adams)

https://710wor.iheart.com/featured/m...e-coronavirus/
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971



Rolf Mantel[_2_] April 23rd 20 08:38 AM

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Am 23.04.2020 um 02:06 schrieb :
And something is a miracle cure we already have. 47,750 dead Americans later.


Mortality after the "Trump" hydrocloroquine treatment is double that of
"no treatment":
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1.full.pdf
It only costs you $20 and maybe your life.

Andre Jute[_2_] April 23rd 20 02:34 PM

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On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 1:20:54 AM UTC+1, Duane wrote:

Y’all have fun. Go ride your bikes.


Can't. Not just locked down because of the virus, cocooned -- a word my government has invented for a layer of isolation beyond lockdown, applied to the most vulnerable groups. I was saying earlier to my wife that I could hear my bike calling to me the stairs, wondering why on such a beautiful day is is standing still, inside.

Andre Jute
There was a movie called "Cocoon" which I thought shoulda been sci-fi but was apparently about old people and a swimming pool, if I interpreted the poster right.

Andre Jute[_2_] April 23rd 20 02:43 PM

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On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 2:07:12 AM UTC+1, John B. wrote:

By the way, Hillary got the majority of the U.S. vote so had the U.S.
been a truly democratic country she would be the President.

John B.


For heaven's sake, Slow Johnny, go read a kiddies' civics primer. The United States is not a democracy. It is a federation of states. And the reason there is an electoral college is because the founders feared the demos and built in the electoral college to prevent the majority discriminating permanently against the minority. It is the most successful governmental system, second only to the Westminster system, in the world's history, and you don't even know the first thing about it.

One day -- soon I hope -- you will get something right, even if only because a blinds squirrel occasionally finds a nut. Until then, you too are an embarrassment.

Andre Jute
Didn't this little man claim he was educated in America?

Andre Jute[_2_] April 23rd 20 02:52 PM

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On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 2:35:25 AM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:

Compared to her [Hillary Clinton!], Trump is a bloviating buffoon. (Hell, compared to
anybody he's a bloviating buffoon.)


Says the bloviating buffoon Frank Krygowski, who has multiple times claimed to know more about the circumstance of cyclists who live thousands of miles from him than they do themselves, and more about their roads and weather too.

Sometime I think that the only useful characteristic of the Krygowski Klown, at least for psychologists, is his total lack of self-awareness.

And he's way beyond being just
"soft" on Russia. I think he's working for Putin.

- Frank Krygowski


Yeah, right. And the Mueller enquiry, and a spurious impeachment couldn't come up with the slightest line between Mr Trump and Russia, except what we could all read in the papers, that he once staged a Miss World contest there. But the Krygowski Klown knows better!

Andre Jute
Who let this jerk loose on other people's children?

Sepp Ruf April 23rd 20 04:06 PM

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Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 23.04.2020 um 02:06 schrieb :
[claims HRC would have saved the lives of Americans that Trump did not]


Rest assured that with war-mongering Hillary "she saw, she killed, she came"
Clinton, countless additional non-Americans would have died by now.

Mortality after the "Trump" hydrocloroquine treatment is double that of
"no treatment":


You forgot that the subject nominally is still "Fact check"[1]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1.full.pdf


Oops, late stage patients, and no "Zev" zinc.[2]

IF you read the paper, please refute Raoult's[3] three accusations of major
bias!

It only costs you $20 and maybe your life.


Believing any politician can cost you your life ... even before entering a
VA Hospital as a patient.


[1]
https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/06/trump-hydroxychloroquine-fact-check/comment-page-11/#comment-2969235

[2]
https://mobile.twitter.com/zev_dr/status/1253277711428128769

[3]
https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/response-to-magagnoli-medrxiv-2020/



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JBeattie April 23rd 20 04:13 PM

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On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 6:43:40 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 2:07:12 AM UTC+1, John B. wrote:

By the way, Hillary got the majority of the U.S. vote so had the U.S.
been a truly democratic country she would be the President.

John B.


For heaven's sake, Slow Johnny, go read a kiddies' civics primer. The United States is not a democracy. It is a federation of states. And the reason there is an electoral college is because the founders feared the demos and built in the electoral college to prevent the majority discriminating permanently against the minority. It is the most successful governmental system, second only to the Westminster system, in the world's history, and you don't even know the first thing about it.

One day -- soon I hope -- you will get something right, even if only because a blinds squirrel occasionally finds a nut. Until then, you too are an embarrassment.


Dear blind squirrel, the founders were divided into many camps. Those who favored a popular vote were afraid of powerful factions within government electing the president -- a possibly foreign influenced minority oppressing the majority. Some feared mob rule. The southern states didn't want a popular vote since slaves couldn't vote, and northern states would have more power. The over-all compromise was a hybrid state-and-population approach (with slaves being 3/5ths a person). Every state gets two senators and a number of representatives based on population, and electors are allocated in the same way. The problem/intricacy of the electoral system is the role of political parties and state law. IMO, our problem is that we have only two real political parties.

-- Jay Beattie.


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