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Scott May 31st 09 06:33 PM

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This is just nuts. First, wins Jr World TT. Follows it up with World
Cup pursuit wins, a ride in the Olympics, AND World Championship
pursuit title. National pursuit and kilo titles. Now he goes and
pulls off the U23 Paris Roubaix win. What's next for Mini Phinney? I
mean, he's only 18!! When he figures out what he's really best at,
it's gonna be amazing.

RicodJour May 31st 09 07:02 PM

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On May 31, 1:33*pm, Scott wrote:
This is just nuts. *First, wins Jr World TT. *Follows it up with World
Cup pursuit wins, a ride in the Olympics, AND World Championship
pursuit title. *National pursuit and kilo titles. *Now he goes and
pulls off the U23 Paris Roubaix win. *What's next for Mini Phinney? *I
mean, he's only 18!! *When he figures out what he's really best at,
it's gonna be amazing.


Mini? The guy's tall, and he's going to dwarf his Dad's palmares -
and I'm sure his Dad is just fine with that!

R

Johnny Twelve-Point presented by JFT May 31st 09 07:51 PM

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On Sun, 31 May 2009 10:33:05 -0700 (PDT), Scott
wrote:

This is just nuts. First, wins Jr World TT. Follows it up with World
Cup pursuit wins, a ride in the Olympics, AND World Championship
pursuit title. National pursuit and kilo titles. Now he goes and
pulls off the U23 Paris Roubaix win. What's next for Mini Phinney? I
mean, he's only 18!! When he figures out what he's really best at,
it's gonna be amazing.


Yeah, it's pretty wild.


Carl Sundquist[_3_] May 31st 09 08:29 PM

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Johnny Twelve-Point presented by JFT wrote:
On Sun, 31 May 2009 10:33:05 -0700 (PDT), Scott
wrote:

This is just nuts. First, wins Jr World TT. Follows it up with World
Cup pursuit wins, a ride in the Olympics, AND World Championship
pursuit title. National pursuit and kilo titles. Now he goes and
pulls off the U23 Paris Roubaix win. What's next for Mini Phinney? I
mean, he's only 18!! When he figures out what he's really best at,
it's gonna be amazing.


Yeah, it's pretty wild.


Agreed, but up to this point it appears that his racecraft is not nearly
as developed as his engine. Both Mom and Dad can help him with that.

Tom Kunich May 31st 09 10:53 PM

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"Scott" wrote in message
...
This is just nuts. First, wins Jr World TT. Follows it up with World
Cup pursuit wins, a ride in the Olympics, AND World Championship
pursuit title. National pursuit and kilo titles. Now he goes and
pulls off the U23 Paris Roubaix win. What's next for Mini Phinney? I
mean, he's only 18!! When he figures out what he's really best at,
it's gonna be amazing.


Not really. Let's remember that in his age category he isn't meeting the
best possible racers. So a good racer looks like a spectacular racer.


RicodJour May 31st 09 11:07 PM

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On May 31, 5:53*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message

This is just nuts. *First, wins Jr World TT. *Follows it up with World
Cup pursuit wins, a ride in the Olympics, AND World Championship
pursuit title. *National pursuit and kilo titles. *Now he goes and
pulls off the U23 Paris Roubaix win. *What's next for Mini Phinney? *I
mean, he's only 18!! *When he figures out what he's really best at,
it's gonna be amazing.


Not really. Let's remember that in his age category he isn't meeting the
best possible racers. So a good racer looks like a spectacular racer.


Hey can anyone translate that for me? I don't speak idiot and my
idiot to English translator is broken.

That has to be one of the stupidest comments in recent months - even
stupider than people trying to make stupid comments. You're just
gifted.

He's 18 and he kicks on U23. WTF do you want him to do, and WhoTF do
you expect him to race against?

R

Scott May 31st 09 11:11 PM

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On May 31, 3:53*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message

...

This is just nuts. *First, wins Jr World TT. *Follows it up with World
Cup pursuit wins, a ride in the Olympics, AND World Championship
pursuit title. *National pursuit and kilo titles. *Now he goes and
pulls off the U23 Paris Roubaix win. *What's next for Mini Phinney? *I
mean, he's only 18!! *When he figures out what he's really best at,
it's gonna be amazing.


Not really. Let's remember that in his age category he isn't meeting the
best possible racers. So a good racer looks like a spectacular racer.


As Bubba's Momma would say, "boy, is you stupid?"

Are you suggesting for a moment that the competitors at the various
track world cups or track world championships or perhaps the Olympics,
weren't the best possible racers??? The only race I mentioned that
was "age-graded" was the Espoirs Paris Roubaix, and it's damn sure not
like he's racing against a bunch of slouches three or four years his
junior. He's in his first year in the "espoirs" and he's doing pretty
damn well against some of the top competitors four to five years his
senior. Besides, look at the list of previous winners and tell us
sincerely that winning that race doesn't mean something.

Geez, Tom, you must really be looking to start an argument or you are
clinically frikkin stupid to make that comment.

Howard Kveck May 31st 09 11:25 PM

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In article ,
Scott wrote:

On May 31, 3:53*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message

...

This is just nuts. *First, wins Jr World TT. *Follows it up with World
Cup pursuit wins, a ride in the Olympics, AND World Championship
pursuit title. *National pursuit and kilo titles. *Now he goes and
pulls off the U23 Paris Roubaix win. *What's next for Mini Phinney? *I
mean, he's only 18!! *When he figures out what he's really best at,
it's gonna be amazing.


Not really. Let's remember that in his age category he isn't meeting the
best possible racers. So a good racer looks like a spectacular racer.


As Bubba's Momma would say, "boy, is you stupid?"

Are you suggesting for a moment that the competitors at the various
track world cups or track world championships or perhaps the Olympics,
weren't the best possible racers??? The only race I mentioned that
was "age-graded" was the Espoirs Paris Roubaix, and it's damn sure not
like he's racing against a bunch of slouches three or four years his
junior. He's in his first year in the "espoirs" and he's doing pretty
damn well against some of the top competitors four to five years his
senior. Besides, look at the list of previous winners and tell us
sincerely that winning that race doesn't mean something.

Geez, Tom, you must really be looking to start an argument or you are
clinically frikkin stupid to make that comment.


Does it have to be one or the other? Anyway, I think you're right about Phinney -
he does seem to have a lot of power. The more different kinds of races he gets to do,
the more he'll learn about what he's really good at and focus on those. But I'll also
bet that he'll work at improving the things he wasn't as good at. I think Carl's
correct about his racecraft but that comes with time and riding against good
competitors.

--
tanx,
Howard

Caught playing safe
It's a bored game

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Tom Kunich May 31st 09 11:26 PM

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"Scott" wrote in message
...
On May 31, 3:53 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

Not really. Let's remember that in his age category he isn't meeting the
best possible racers. So a good racer looks like a spectacular racer.


Are you suggesting for a moment that the competitors at the various
track world cups or track world championships or perhaps the Olympics,
weren't the best possible racers??? The only race I mentioned that
was "age-graded" was the Espoirs Paris Roubaix, and it's damn sure not
like he's racing against a bunch of slouches three or four years his
junior. He's in his first year in the "espoirs" and he's doing pretty
damn well against some of the top competitors four to five years his
senior. Besides, look at the list of previous winners and tell us
sincerely that winning that race doesn't mean something.


Who was the last great track star that really shown in road racing?


Tom Kunich May 31st 09 11:33 PM

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"Scott" wrote in message
...
On May 31, 3:53 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

Not really. Let's remember that in his age category he isn't meeting the
best possible racers. So a good racer looks like a spectacular racer.


Are you suggesting for a moment that the competitors at the various
track world cups or track world championships or perhaps the Olympics,
weren't the best possible racers??? The only race I mentioned that
was "age-graded" was the Espoirs Paris Roubaix, and it's damn sure not
like he's racing against a bunch of slouches three or four years his
junior. He's in his first year in the "espoirs" and he's doing pretty
damn well against some of the top competitors four to five years his
senior. Besides, look at the list of previous winners and tell us
sincerely that winning that race doesn't mean something.


And by the way, I wasn't saying that he isn't a good rider or won't be a
great rider. I was saying that you can't predict yet what he will become
because the level of competition he's been up against is NOT world class.
All the world class guys went straight to the pros. Or haven't you noticed
guys like Contador were hired by high end professional teams at 22?





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