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[email protected] October 16th 07 06:17 PM

Helmet-Cam
 
Hi All,

I was thinking about getting one of these for goofing around, but
after a jerk driver tried to teach me a lesson today out on my ride I
thought such a thing would be nice to have to document each ride:

http://www2.oregonscientific.com/sho...id=107&pid=709

Joseph


Melinda Shore October 16th 07 06:34 PM

Helmet-Cam
 
In article .com,
wrote:
I was thinking about getting one of these for goofing around, but
after a jerk driver tried to teach me a lesson today out on my ride I
thought such a thing would be nice to have to document each ride:


I have one. The video quality is poor and the audio is
worse, but it's kind of fun. I've used it on an ATV and on
a sleddog training rig that's built out of mountain bike
parts. It wasn't *terrible* with the ATV but the video from
the training rig, running over rough ground, was so bad that
it gave me a headache while watching it, plus because it was
mounted on the bars the sound when I braked (disk brakes)
was carried through the frame and picked up by the camera,
and wow, is that loud and obnoxious.

On the other hand, it's cheap and easy to use, and kind of
fun. I'll be curious to see how it deals with snow (lots
and lots and lots of *white*), given its color problems.

BTW, you can get them new for under $90 US on eBay.
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Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

[email protected] October 16th 07 06:56 PM

Helmet-Cam
 
On Oct 16, 7:34 pm, (Melinda Shore) wrote:
In article .com,

wrote:
I was thinking about getting one of these for goofing around, but
after a jerk driver tried to teach me a lesson today out on my ride I
thought such a thing would be nice to have to document each ride:


I have one. The video quality is poor and the audio is
worse, but it's kind of fun. I've used it on an ATV and on
a sleddog training rig that's built out of mountain bike
parts. It wasn't *terrible* with the ATV but the video from
the training rig, running over rough ground, was so bad that
it gave me a headache while watching it, plus because it was
mounted on the bars the sound when I braked (disk brakes)
was carried through the frame and picked up by the camera,
and wow, is that loud and obnoxious.

On the other hand, it's cheap and easy to use, and kind of
fun. I'll be curious to see how it deals with snow (lots
and lots and lots of *white*), given its color problems.

BTW, you can get them new for under $90 US on eBay.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community


eBay is my friend! I see some Tony Hawk/Digital Blue cameras for $32.
I wonder how much worse those are?

And just how bad is the video quality? Feel like sending/posting a
sample?

Joseph


[email protected] October 16th 07 08:21 PM

Helmet-Cam
 
Joseph.Santaniello writes:

I was thinking about getting one of these for goofing around, but
after a jerk driver tried to teach me a lesson today out on my ride
I thought such a thing would be nice to have to document each ride:


http://www2.oregonscientific.com/ass.../AT18_3_lg.jpg

Looks small enough, but once you put it on, it'll be years before you
meet up with another road jerk. However, if you get a picture, let us
know.

Jobst Brandt

futrino[_2_] October 16th 07 08:29 PM

Helmet-Cam
 


wrote:
Hi All,

I was thinking about getting one of these for goofing around, but
after a jerk driver tried to teach me a lesson today out on my ride I
thought such a thing would be nice to have to document each ride:

http://www2.oregonscientific.com/sho...id=107&pid=709

Joseph


lots of reviews on amazon,

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...197513-8603034

I was just looking today, but I want it for documenting my rides on
wooded trails, doesn't sound like it is good for that, but a cheap and
fun toy. looks like it doesn't hold battery in cool weather. one guy
said sound can be improved by removing waterproof seal at mic.


Melinda Shore October 16th 07 08:35 PM

Helmet-Cam
 
In article .com,
wrote:
And just how bad is the video quality? Feel like sending/posting a
sample?


I'm leaving town shortly and don't have time to upload the
one that'll make you vomit and then leave you with a migraine,
but here's some pretty low-key handheld video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndWZhyiNoAc
and here's one that was taken with the helmetcam mounted on
an ATV front rack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LViecnHBiSc

There's some Youtubey video artifacts but the color
oversaturation and high contrast are totally the work of the
camera.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

Greg Evans October 16th 07 08:44 PM

Helmet-Cam
 
Melinda Shore wrote:

In article
.com,

wrote:
I was thinking about getting one of these for goofing around,
but after a jerk driver tried to teach me a lesson today out
on my ride I thought such a thing would be nice to have to
document each ride:


I have one. The video quality is poor and the audio is worse,
but it's kind of fun. I've used it on an ATV and on a sleddog
training rig that's built out of mountain bike parts. It wasn't
*terrible* with the ATV but the video from the training rig,
running over rough ground, was so bad that it gave me a headache
while watching it, plus because it was mounted on the bars the
sound when I braked (disk brakes) was carried through the frame
and picked up by the camera, and wow, is that loud and obnoxious.


On the other hand, it's cheap and easy to use, and kind of fun.
I'll be curious to see how it deals with snow (lots and lots and
lots of *white*), given its color problems.

BTW, you can get them new for under $90 US on eBay.


I /just/ got one of these myself, but haven't had a chance to check
it out yet. Supposedly, the audio quality can be improved if you're
willing to sacrifice waterproofness (details he
http://utahtrikes.com/ARTICLE-31.html).

I also found this page (in Danish, I think) that has some pretty
cool video samples. http://fixie-king.dk/video/video_test.htm

There are lots of online retailers selling them for under $90 US,
including amazon.com.

From what I've seen the video quality is about what you'd expect
for that price.

Greg

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[email protected] October 16th 07 08:46 PM

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On Oct 16, 9:21 pm, wrote:

Looks small enough, but once you put it on, it'll be years before you
meet up with another road jerk.


That's exactly what I thought as the jerk rolled away! Putting
Murphy's Law to work for me is half the point ;-)

Joseph


[email protected] October 16th 07 08:50 PM

Helmet-Cam
 
On Oct 16, 9:35 pm, (Melinda Shore) wrote:
In article .com,

wrote:
And just how bad is the video quality? Feel like sending/posting a
sample?


I'm leaving town shortly and don't have time to upload the
one that'll make you vomit and then leave you with a migraine,
but here's some pretty low-key handheld video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndWZhyiNoAc
and here's one that was taken with the helmetcam mounted on
an ATV front rack:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LViecnHBiSc

There's some Youtubey video artifacts but the color
oversaturation and high contrast are totally the work of the
camera.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community


A jerky picture from a solid mount on the ATV isn't too surprising,
but the pixelated motion really messes things up. Looking at the cute
dogs it looks fine, but when you move the camera, the deck planks turn
to mosaic. Is that YouTube?

Joseph


Melinda Shore October 16th 07 09:04 PM

Helmet-Cam
 
In article . com,
wrote:
A jerky picture from a solid mount on the ATV isn't too surprising,
but the pixelated motion really messes things up. Looking at the cute
dogs it looks fine, but when you move the camera, the deck planks turn
to mosaic. Is that YouTube?


That is - the codec in the camera is fine (I think the color
problems are in the CCD) and the frame rate is certainly
adequate. The ATV weighs about 450 lbs (it's a small one)
and does a nice job of absorbing jolts. The rig is a lot
smaller. It's got a Manitou R7 on the front and it *feels*
like a nice ride when we're underway, but with the camera
mounted on the bars the resulting video is hideous above ~12
mph or so. I haven't tried wearing the camera myself and
that might make a big difference.

I think that if you've got the money to blow it's worth the
very reasonable price and it's fun to mess around with.
It's just pretty limited. But again, I think you probably
get your money's worth.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -


Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community


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