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MrCheerful May 24th 19 08:26 AM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
thief Michael Leckenby, 38, thought he managed to evade the grasp of a
chasing officer as he pedalled frantically through Belgrave Drive, west
Hull, on a bicycle on Monday, May 20.
The officer had stepped out of his vehicle when he spotted the suspect
in Pickering Road and gave chase on foot as it was the quickest way to
follow him.
Just when it appeared as though the suspect had managed to get away, a
passing motorist picked up the officer in his car and managed to catch
up with the cyclist for the PC make the arrest.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...police-2900266

Simon Jester May 24th 19 02:22 PM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 8:26:13 AM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
thief Michael Leckenby, 38, thought he managed to evade the grasp of a
chasing officer as he pedalled frantically through Belgrave Drive, west
Hull, on a bicycle on Monday, May 20.
The officer had stepped out of his vehicle when he spotted the suspect
in Pickering Road and gave chase on foot as it was the quickest way to
follow him.
Just when it appeared as though the suspect had managed to get away, a
passing motorist picked up the officer in his car and managed to catch
up with the cyclist for the PC make the arrest.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...police-2900266


And?
Is there some point you are failing to make?


Mr Pounder Esquire May 24th 19 03:20 PM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 8:26:13 AM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
thief Michael Leckenby, 38, thought he managed to evade the grasp of
a chasing officer as he pedalled frantically through Belgrave Drive,
west Hull, on a bicycle on Monday, May 20.
The officer had stepped out of his vehicle when he spotted the
suspect in Pickering Road and gave chase on foot as it was the
quickest way to follow him.
Just when it appeared as though the suspect had managed to get away,
a passing motorist picked up the officer in his car and managed to
catch up with the cyclist for the PC make the arrest.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...police-2900266


And?
Is there some point you are failing to make?


Nope.



Simon Jester May 24th 19 05:14 PM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 3:21:10 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 8:26:13 AM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
thief Michael Leckenby, 38, thought he managed to evade the grasp of
a chasing officer as he pedalled frantically through Belgrave Drive,
west Hull, on a bicycle on Monday, May 20.
The officer had stepped out of his vehicle when he spotted the
suspect in Pickering Road and gave chase on foot as it was the
quickest way to follow him.
Just when it appeared as though the suspect had managed to get away,
a passing motorist picked up the officer in his car and managed to
catch up with the cyclist for the PC make the arrest.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...police-2900266


And?
Is there some point you are failing to make?


Nope.


Are you Mr Cheerful?

Mr Pounder Esquire May 24th 19 05:57 PM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 3:21:10 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 8:26:13 AM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
thief Michael Leckenby, 38, thought he managed to evade the grasp
of a chasing officer as he pedalled frantically through Belgrave
Drive, west Hull, on a bicycle on Monday, May 20.
The officer had stepped out of his vehicle when he spotted the
suspect in Pickering Road and gave chase on foot as it was the
quickest way to follow him.
Just when it appeared as though the suspect had managed to get
away, a passing motorist picked up the officer in his car and
managed to catch up with the cyclist for the PC make the arrest.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...police-2900266

And?
Is there some point you are failing to make?


Nope.


Are you Mr Cheerful?


Nope, but I'm flattered by your question.






MrCheerful May 24th 19 06:01 PM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On 24/05/2019 17:57, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 3:21:10 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 8:26:13 AM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
thief Michael Leckenby, 38, thought he managed to evade the grasp
of a chasing officer as he pedalled frantically through Belgrave
Drive, west Hull, on a bicycle on Monday, May 20.
The officer had stepped out of his vehicle when he spotted the
suspect in Pickering Road and gave chase on foot as it was the
quickest way to follow him.
Just when it appeared as though the suspect had managed to get
away, a passing motorist picked up the officer in his car and
managed to catch up with the cyclist for the PC make the arrest.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...police-2900266

And?
Is there some point you are failing to make?

Nope.


Are you Mr Cheerful?


Nope, but I'm flattered by your question.






Thank you.

I made my points quite clearly, perhaps someone was too dim to
understand them.

Mr Pounder Esquire May 24th 19 06:32 PM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
MrCheerful wrote:
On 24/05/2019 17:57, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 3:21:10 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 8:26:13 AM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
thief Michael Leckenby, 38, thought he managed to evade the grasp
of a chasing officer as he pedalled frantically through Belgrave
Drive, west Hull, on a bicycle on Monday, May 20.
The officer had stepped out of his vehicle when he spotted the
suspect in Pickering Road and gave chase on foot as it was the
quickest way to follow him.
Just when it appeared as though the suspect had managed to get
away, a passing motorist picked up the officer in his car and
managed to catch up with the cyclist for the PC make the arrest.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...police-2900266

And?
Is there some point you are failing to make?

Nope.

Are you Mr Cheerful?


Nope, but I'm flattered by your question.


Thank you.

I made my points quite clearly, perhaps someone was too dim to
understand them.


Too dim?
Only a cyclist could be so dim.



Simon Jester May 24th 19 06:40 PM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 5:57:21 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 3:21:10 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 8:26:13 AM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
thief Michael Leckenby, 38, thought he managed to evade the grasp
of a chasing officer as he pedalled frantically through Belgrave
Drive, west Hull, on a bicycle on Monday, May 20.
The officer had stepped out of his vehicle when he spotted the
suspect in Pickering Road and gave chase on foot as it was the
quickest way to follow him.
Just when it appeared as though the suspect had managed to get
away, a passing motorist picked up the officer in his car and
managed to catch up with the cyclist for the PC make the arrest.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...police-2900266

And?
Is there some point you are failing to make?

Nope.


Are you Mr Cheerful?


Nope,


Then why are you answering questions on her behalf?


Simon Jester May 24th 19 06:45 PM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 6:32:12 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
MrCheerful wrote:
On 24/05/2019 17:57, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 3:21:10 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 8:26:13 AM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
thief Michael Leckenby, 38, thought he managed to evade the grasp
of a chasing officer as he pedalled frantically through Belgrave
Drive, west Hull, on a bicycle on Monday, May 20.
The officer had stepped out of his vehicle when he spotted the
suspect in Pickering Road and gave chase on foot as it was the
quickest way to follow him.
Just when it appeared as though the suspect had managed to get
away, a passing motorist picked up the officer in his car and
managed to catch up with the cyclist for the PC make the arrest.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...police-2900266

And?
Is there some point you are failing to make?

Nope.

Are you Mr Cheerful?

Nope, but I'm flattered by your question.


Thank you.

I made my points quite clearly, perhaps someone was too dim to
understand them.


Too dim?
Only a cyclist could be so dim.


Once again. Is it going to be a Chisel wedding for you two?

Simon Jester May 24th 19 10:45 PM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 6:01:15 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
On 24/05/2019 17:57, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 3:21:10 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 8:26:13 AM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
thief Michael Leckenby, 38, thought he managed to evade the grasp
of a chasing officer as he pedalled frantically through Belgrave
Drive, west Hull, on a bicycle on Monday, May 20.
The officer had stepped out of his vehicle when he spotted the
suspect in Pickering Road and gave chase on foot as it was the
quickest way to follow him.
Just when it appeared as though the suspect had managed to get
away, a passing motorist picked up the officer in his car and
managed to catch up with the cyclist for the PC make the arrest.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...police-2900266

And?
Is there some point you are failing to make?

Nope.

Are you Mr Cheerful?


Nope, but I'm flattered by your question.






Thank you.

I made my points quite clearly, perhaps someone was too dim to
understand them.


You did not make any point.
All you did was cite an article.
In your sad, lonely world you think this means all cyclists are burglars.

TMS320 May 25th 19 11:35 AM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On 24/05/2019 22:45, Simon Jester wrote:

You did not make any point. All you did was cite an article. In your
sad, lonely world you think this means all cyclists are burglars.


....and that one "passing motorist" being a good samaritan means all must be.

Or trying to suggest that burglars would find a car makes a more
practical getaway vehicle. A policeman wouldn't think about running
after you when you can do 85mph in a 30 limit. Besides, breaking a speed
limit is not really law breaking whereas riding a bicycle on the
pavement is the epitomy of evil.

Simon Mason[_6_] May 25th 19 02:32 PM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 11:35:41 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 24/05/2019 22:45, Simon Jester wrote:

You did not make any point. All you did was cite an article. In your
sad, lonely world you think this means all cyclists are burglars.


...and that one "passing motorist" being a good samaritan means all must be.

Or trying to suggest that burglars would find a car makes a more
practical getaway vehicle. A policeman wouldn't think about running
after you when you can do 85mph in a 30 limit. Besides, breaking a speed
limit is not really law breaking whereas riding a bicycle on the
pavement is the epitomy of evil.


This driver only got 3 points for driving over a child, then attempting to scarper afterwards!

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...riving-2905907

jnugent May 25th 19 03:59 PM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On 25/05/2019 14:32, Simon Mason wrote:
On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 11:35:41 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 24/05/2019 22:45, Simon Jester wrote:

You did not make any point. All you did was cite an article. In your
sad, lonely world you think this means all cyclists are burglars.


...and that one "passing motorist" being a good samaritan means all must be.

Or trying to suggest that burglars would find a car makes a more
practical getaway vehicle. A policeman wouldn't think about running
after you when you can do 85mph in a 30 limit. Besides, breaking a speed
limit is not really law breaking whereas riding a bicycle on the
pavement is the epitomy of evil.


This driver only got 3 points for driving over a child, then attempting to scarper afterwards!

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...riving-2905907


QUOTE:
A woman who ran over a seven-year-old boy did not have a driving licence.
ENDQUOTE

So other than being a pedestrian, she was only qualified to be a cyclist.

QUOTE:
Miss Weatherill said: "She was given a lift back to Hornsea by the
police and we've been told she only had three points put on her licence.
She only had a provisional.
ENDQUOTE

Ah... so it's the good old "a mate of mine down the pub reckons..."
school of "facts".

First of all, is it "no licence" or "just a provisional"? The two are
not the same.

In reality, for a provisional licence-holder, driving without L plates
(PL10), driving without an accompanying qualified driver (LC10) and
driving (perforce) without the benefit of an insurance policy - whether
one theoretically exists or not - are all separate offences with penalty
point counts of between three (the L plates) and a minimum of six (no
effective insurance). It gets worse... most insurers will (rightly)
repudiate a claim made by anyone driving without a licence or outside
the terms of any licence they hold, so "no insurance" becomes an
automatic charge and is punished by most courts with a period of
disqualification and an exemplary fine (there is no upper limit on that
power of a court). Even if the offender escapes a ban, there is a
mandatory six points minimum penalty in addition to a fine.

And that's not even counting the probability of a DWDCAA summons.

But hey... why bother with reality? It's more fun to pretend that
dangerous, careless and inconsiderate offenders escape without effective
penalty, isn't it?


Simon Jester May 26th 19 05:35 AM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 3:59:40 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

Modesty Blaise May 26th 19 09:17 AM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
JNugent wrote:

On 25/05/2019 14:32, Simon Mason wrote:
On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 11:35:41 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 24/05/2019 22:45, Simon Jester wrote:

You did not make any point. All you did was cite an article. In your
sad, lonely world you think this means all cyclists are burglars.

...and that one "passing motorist" being a good samaritan means all must be.

Or trying to suggest that burglars would find a car makes a more
practical getaway vehicle. A policeman wouldn't think about running
after you when you can do 85mph in a 30 limit. Besides, breaking a speed
limit is not really law breaking whereas riding a bicycle on the
pavement is the epitomy of evil.


This driver only got 3 points for driving over a child, then attempting to scarper afterwards!

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...riving-2905907


QUOTE:
A woman who ran over a seven-year-old boy did not have a driving licence.
ENDQUOTE

So other than being a pedestrian, she was only qualified to be a cyclist.

QUOTE:
Miss Weatherill said: "She was given a lift back to Hornsea by the
police and we've been told she only had three points put on her licence.
She only had a provisional.
ENDQUOTE

Ah... so it's the good old "a mate of mine down the pub reckons..."
school of "facts".


The reporter, and the publishers, of this story are really those who
should be held responsible for its content.

First of all, is it "no licence" or "just a provisional"? The two are
not the same.

In reality, for a provisional licence-holder, driving without L plates
(PL10), driving without an accompanying qualified driver (LC10) and
driving (perforce) without the benefit of an insurance policy - whether
one theoretically exists or not - are all separate offences with penalty
point counts of between three (the L plates) and a minimum of six (no
effective insurance). It gets worse... most insurers will (rightly)
repudiate a claim made by anyone driving without a licence or outside
the terms of any licence they hold, so "no insurance" becomes an
automatic charge and is punished by most courts with a period of
disqualification and an exemplary fine (there is no upper limit on that
power of a court). Even if the offender escapes a ban, there is a
mandatory six points minimum penalty in addition to a fine.

And that's not even counting the probability of a DWDCAA summons.

But hey... why bother with reality? It's more fun to pretend that
dangerous, careless and inconsiderate offenders escape without effective
penalty, isn't it?


The report was written by Sophie Corcoran, and it does her no credit.


Simon Jester May 26th 19 05:07 PM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 11:35:41 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 24/05/2019 22:45, Simon Jester wrote:

You did not make any point. All you did was cite an article. In your
sad, lonely world you think this means all cyclists are burglars.


...and that one "passing motorist" being a good samaritan means all must be.

Or trying to suggest that burglars would find a car makes a more
practical getaway vehicle. A policeman wouldn't think about running
after you when you can do 85mph in a 30 limit. Besides, breaking a speed
limit is not really law breaking whereas riding a bicycle on the
pavement is the epitomy of evil.


Yes, but motorists are highly trained and have encyclopaedic knowledge of the Highway Code.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS_WmVQo48s


TMS320 May 26th 19 11:57 PM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On 26/05/2019 17:07, Simon Jester wrote:
On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 11:35:41 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 24/05/2019 22:45, Simon Jester wrote:

You did not make any point. All you did was cite an article. In
your sad, lonely world you think this means all cyclists are
burglars.


...and that one "passing motorist" being a good samaritan means all
must be.

Or trying to suggest that burglars would find a car makes a more
practical getaway vehicle. A policeman wouldn't think about
running after you when you can do 85mph in a 30 limit. Besides,
breaking a speed limit is not really law breaking whereas riding a
bicycle on the pavement is the epitomy of evil.


Yes, but motorists are highly trained and have encyclopaedic
knowledge of the Highway Code.


Though I don't think their attention span gets them as far as rule 170.
The writers should reorder it so that rules 1 to 88 are moved to the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS_WmVQo48s


To be fair, whether the sequence was red to amber to green or red to red
plus amber to green doesn't make any practical difference so is
unnecessary information. It only matters in quiz shows.

Rob Morley May 30th 19 03:49 AM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On Sun, 26 May 2019 23:57:46 +0100
TMS320 wrote:

To be fair, whether the sequence was red to amber to green or red to
red plus amber to green doesn't make any practical difference so is
unnecessary information. It only matters in quiz shows.


No, it matters when you're approaching an amber light - does it mean
slam on the brakes because it's about to be red, or just lift off the
throttle because it's about to be green? Bearing in mind that the
amber before red means "stop", not "if you're lucky the red won't show
until you're over the line".


Kerr-Mudd,John[_2_] May 30th 19 09:05 AM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On Thu, 30 May 2019 02:49:27 GMT, Rob Morley wrote:

On Sun, 26 May 2019 23:57:46 +0100
TMS320 wrote:

To be fair, whether the sequence was red to amber to green or red to
red plus amber to green doesn't make any practical difference so is
unnecessary information. It only matters in quiz shows.


No, it matters when you're approaching an amber light - does it mean
slam on the brakes because it's about to be red, or just lift off the
throttle because it's about to be green? Bearing in mind that the
amber before red means "stop", not "if you're lucky the red won't show
until you're over the line".


I'm not sure many box drivers know this.



--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.

TMS320 May 30th 19 10:03 AM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On 30/05/2019 03:49, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 23:57:46 +0100
TMS320 wrote:

To be fair, whether the sequence was red to amber to green or red to
red plus amber to green doesn't make any practical difference so is
unnecessary information. It only matters in quiz shows.


No, it matters when you're approaching an amber light - does it mean
slam on the brakes because it's about to be red, or just lift off the
throttle because it's about to be green?


Well, we know from experience that local authorities set the lights so
that 95% of time it will be necessary to stop...

It seems very unlikely you could be approaching and not see what
preceded it. The amber phase between red and green is very short so you
would need to be teleported to the spot in front of it.

Simon Jester May 30th 19 10:38 AM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 3:49:29 AM UTC+1, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 23:57:46 +0100
TMS320 wrote:

To be fair, whether the sequence was red to amber to green or red to
red plus amber to green doesn't make any practical difference so is
unnecessary information. It only matters in quiz shows.


No, it matters when you're approaching an amber light - does it mean
slam on the brakes because it's about to be red, or just lift off the
throttle because it's about to be green? Bearing in mind that the
amber before red means "stop", not "if you're lucky the red won't show
until you're over the line".


Is this a joke or a troll?


MrCheerful May 30th 19 04:07 PM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On 30/05/2019 09:05, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Thu, 30 May 2019 02:49:27 GMT, Rob Morley wrote:

On Sun, 26 May 2019 23:57:46 +0100
TMS320 wrote:

To be fair, whether the sequence was red to amber to green or red to
red plus amber to green doesn't make any practical difference so is
unnecessary information. It only matters in quiz shows.


No, it matters when you're approaching an amber light - does it mean
slam on the brakes because it's about to be red, or just lift off the
throttle because it's about to be green? Bearing in mind that the
amber before red means "stop", not "if you're lucky the red won't show
until you're over the line".


I'm not sure many box drivers know this.




I am certain the majority of cyclists are not even aware of traffic
lights. Let alone what the different signals mean.

TMS320 May 30th 19 07:35 PM

Thieving Hull cyclist caught with the aid of a passing motorist
 
On 30/05/2019 16:07, MrCheerful wrote:
On 30/05/2019 09:05, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Thu, 30 May 2019 02:49:27 GMT, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 23:57:46 +0100
TMS320 wrote:

To be fair, whether the sequence was red to amber to green or red to
red plus amber to green doesn't make any practical difference so is
unnecessary information. It only matters in quiz shows.

No, it matters when you're approaching an amber light - does it mean
slam on the brakes because it's about to be red, or just lift off the
throttle because it's about to be green?Â* Bearing in mind that the
amber before red means "stop", not "if you're lucky the red won't show
until you're over the line".


I'm not sure many box drivers know this.


I am certain the majority of cyclists are not even aware of traffic
lights.Â* Let alone what the different signals mean.


Look at the thread 'Cyclists never stop at red lights'.


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