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Squashme August 30th 13 09:46 AM

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http://news.sky.com/story/1134895/th...s-near-schools

And yet no mention of cyclists speeding near schools, a topic which has been monotonously raised on urc.

Mentalguy2k8[_2_] August 30th 13 10:33 AM

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"Squashme" wrote in message
...

http://news.sky.com/story/1134895/th...s-near-schools

And yet no mention of cyclists speeding near schools, a topic which has
been monotonously raised on urc.


That's because this is a cycling group, not a driving group or a
schoolchildren group. Therefore your post is OT yet again.


Andy Watson August 30th 13 10:38 AM

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In article ,
Squashme wrote:

http://news.sky.com/story/1134895/th...ads-near-schoo
ls

And yet no mention of cyclists speeding near schools


Cyclists cannot 'speed' (except in Royal Parks, and other places with'
special' legislation).

Ian Smith August 30th 13 03:26 PM

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On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 10:38:37 +0100, Andy Watson wrote:
In article ,
Squashme wrote:

And yet no mention of cyclists speeding near schools


Cyclists cannot 'speed' (except in Royal Parks, and other places
with' special' legislation).


Not in Royal Parks either since the 2010 amendment to the regulations.
So it is now only a theoretical possibility, if somewhere were to have
a local act, and as far as I know nowhere actually does.

regards, Ian SMith
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Rob Morley August 30th 13 03:38 PM

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On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 10:38:37 +0100
Andy Watson wrote:

Cyclists cannot 'speed' (except in Royal Parks, and other places
with' special' legislation).


ITYF the Royal Parks thing has probably been fixed by The Royal Parks
and Other Open Spaces (Amendment) etc. Regulations 2010 which has
changed relevant parts from "vehicles" to "motor vehicles". There may
be local byelaws somewhere that impose speed restrictions on pedal
cycles, but nobody seems to know of any.
There is still the infamous "pedalling furiously" (Offences Against The
Person Act 1861 has been applied to pedal cycles, but there has never
been an actual offence of "pedalling/cycling furiously").
There are specific "dangerous cycling" and "careless and inconsiderate
cycling" offences (Road Traffic Act 1988). Daniel Cadden's is the only
case I can find of the latter (dismissed "no case to answer" on
appeal), and Jason Howard's (death of Rhiannon Bennett) the former.


Andy Watson August 30th 13 03:46 PM

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In article [email protected],
Rob Morley wrote:

On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 10:38:37 +0100
Andy Watson wrote:

Cyclists cannot 'speed' (except in Royal Parks, and other places
with' special' legislation).


ITYF the Royal Parks thing has probably been fixed by The Royal Parks
and Other Open Spaces (Amendment) etc. Regulations 2010 which has
changed relevant parts from "vehicles" to "motor vehicles". There may
be local byelaws somewhere that impose speed restrictions on pedal
cycles, but nobody seems to know of any.
There is still the infamous "pedalling furiously" (Offences Against The
Person Act 1861 has been applied to pedal cycles, but there has never
been an actual offence of "pedalling/cycling furiously").
There are specific "dangerous cycling" and "careless and inconsiderate
cycling" offences (Road Traffic Act 1988). Daniel Cadden's is the only
case I can find of the latter (dismissed "no case to answer" on
appeal), and Jason Howard's (death of Rhiannon Bennett) the former.


I stand corrected. One area of the law I need to brush up.

brianrob1961 August 30th 13 04:19 PM

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On 30/08/2013 10:33, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:

"Squashme" wrote in message
...

http://news.sky.com/story/1134895/th...s-near-schools


And yet no mention of cyclists speeding near schools, a topic which
has been monotonously raised on urc.


That's because this is a cycling group, not a driving group or a
schoolchildren group. Therefore your post is OT yet again.


No, this used to be a cycling group. Now it is group for out and out
****s like you to celebrate the persecution and deaths of cyclists.

Mentalguy2k8[_2_] August 30th 13 06:25 PM

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"brianrob1961" wrote in message
...

That's because this is a cycling group, not a driving group or a
schoolchildren group. Therefore your post is OT yet again.


No, this used to be a cycling group. Now it is group for out and out ****s
like you to celebrate the persecution and deaths of cyclists.


Yes, it's a *cycling* group.


jnugent September 1st 13 07:28 PM

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On 30/08/2013 16:19, brianrob1961 wrote:
On 30/08/2013 10:33, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:

"Squashme" wrote in message
...

http://news.sky.com/story/1134895/th...s-near-schools



And yet no mention of cyclists speeding near schools, a topic which
has been monotonously raised on urc.


That's because this is a cycling group, not a driving group or a
schoolchildren group. Therefore your post is OT yet again.


No, this used to be a cycling group. Now it is group for out and out
****s like you to celebrate the persecution and deaths of cyclists.


Which cyclists are "persecuted"?

And by whom?




Jimboi September 1st 13 07:47 PM

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On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 17:34:49 +0100, Phil W Lee wrote:

Squashme considered Fri, 30 Aug 2013 01:46:53
-0700 (PDT) the perfect time to write:


http://news.sky.com/story/1134895/th...s-near-schools

And yet no mention of cyclists speeding near schools, a topic which has been monotonously raised on urc.


Not once, ttbomk.
Riding fairly fast, yes - but speeding is not an offence for a
cyclist.



Poor old nut job.

Here is a clue: the verb to speed does not relate specifically to speed limits
and the law - and no one claimed that a speeding cyclist was breaking the law

Judith
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If the *******s won't do anything about the taxi driver risking
people's lives by dangerous driving, book him to take your kids on a
trip, then report him for kiddy-fiddling. He'll never drive a taxi
again.
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