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Does anyone know good thorn-resistant tubes?
Just had a Kenda thorn-resistant tube fail. It lost pressure suddenly
and overnight without being ridden the day before. It started to split along a factory seam. This seems to happen ever since they started making them less than the usual 3mm thick towards the rim. Does anyone know who still makes the real stuff, 3mm thick all around? Or maybe another good version thorn-resistant tube? I am running 700c 25mm tires with an additional tire liner in there. Might go to 28mm in back some day. The only time I ever lost 3mm all-around tubes was upon violent tire blow-outs (sidewall failure). -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
Does anyone know good thorn-resistant tubes?
On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:03:26 -0700, Joerg wrote:
Just had a Kenda thorn-resistant tube fail. It lost pressure suddenly and overnight without being ridden the day before. It started to split along a factory seam. This seems to happen ever since they started making them less than the usual 3mm thick towards the rim. Does anyone know who still makes the real stuff, 3mm thick all around? Or maybe another good version thorn-resistant tube? I am running 700c 25mm tires with an additional tire liner in there. Might go to 28mm in back some day. The only time I ever lost 3mm all-around tubes was upon violent tire blow-outs (sidewall failure). IMO/E, the manufactuere swapped tube material sometime in the 80s. I use the car thermal patches to patch mine and suddenly they had trouble taking the patch. A comparison of old and new tubes confirmed such a suspisca suspiscion. They also split along the seam easily. Manufactuerers are firmly following Henry fords dictum; "it only need to last the warranty" GL |
Does anyone know good thorn-resistant tubes?
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 3:03:19 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
Just had a Kenda thorn-resistant tube fail. It lost pressure suddenly and overnight without being ridden the day before. It started to split along a factory seam. This seems to happen ever since they started making them less than the usual 3mm thick towards the rim. Does anyone know who still makes the real stuff, 3mm thick all around? Or maybe another good version thorn-resistant tube? I am running 700c 25mm tires with an additional tire liner in there. Might go to 28mm in back some day. The only time I ever lost 3mm all-around tubes was upon violent tire blow-outs (sidewall failure). -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Joerg, you sure must be one hell of a rider in terrible conditions. Today I had a large cut in my tubeless tire and that was the last straw. It is just too messy to use and fix out on the roads. Back to tubes and clinchers. |
Does anyone know good thorn-resistant tubes?
On 4/30/2020 3:03 PM, Joerg wrote:
Just had a Kenda thorn-resistant tube fail. It lost pressure suddenly and overnight without being ridden the day before. It started to split along a factory seam. This seems to happen ever since they started making them less than the usual 3mm thick towards the rim. Does anyone know who still makes the real stuff, 3mm thick all around? Or maybe another good version thorn-resistant tube? I am running 700c 25mm tires with an additional tire liner in there. Might go to 28mm in back some day. The only time I ever lost 3mm all-around tubes was upon violent tire blow-outs (sidewall failure). Your problem is not with the tubes, it's with the tires. What you want is Schwalbe Marathon Plus HS 440 11100766.01 700C x 25. But beware that the protection layer adds some height to the tire and it may not fit on all road bicycles with caliper brakes. |
Does anyone know good thorn-resistant tubes?
sms wrote:
On 4/30/2020 3:03 PM, Joerg wrote: Just had a Kenda thorn-resistant tube fail. It lost pressure suddenly and overnight without being ridden the day before. It started to split along a factory seam. This seems to happen ever since they started making them less than the usual 3mm thick towards the rim. Does anyone know who still makes the real stuff, 3mm thick all around? Or maybe another good version thorn-resistant tube? I am running 700c 25mm tires with an additional tire liner in there. Might go to 28mm in back some day. The only time I ever lost 3mm all-around tubes was upon violent tire blow-outs (sidewall failure). Your problem is not with the tubes, it's with the tires. What you want is Schwalbe Marathon Plus HS 440 11100766.01 700C x 25. But beware that the protection layer adds some height to the tire and it may not fit on all road bicycles with caliper brakes. I’d tend to agree though as ever others choices is theirs alone and some folks like to furrow their own path! This said in terms of vs thorns I’ve not found the plus useful, as though it is fairly thick 5mm or so it’s also quite soft so if something does penetrate the tyre it can work it’s way down, though this was with Hawthorn which is a different shape ie long shard rather than well the Goats head, which I’d assume would stop it from keeping going? At which point for the Plain Marathon plus the depth of tread/tyre and length of the Goats Head thorn is very close! I’d thought that Marathon Plus Touring which I used for a year or so would be a better fit, much more tread and very robust tyres, huge service life as well. I did switch them out to BigApples as well the ride was appalling! And bar 2x that I’d had Hawthorn after it had been shredded just manage to push though. Everything else just ie thorns/glass/shards etc just embedded its self in the tread harmlessly. And thus far just over a year 4K miles or so barely any wear, I’ve picked out the odd shard but nothing has made it though. Roger Merriman |
Does anyone know good thorn-resistant tubes?
On 5/3/2020 12:03 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
sms wrote: On 4/30/2020 3:03 PM, Joerg wrote: Just had a Kenda thorn-resistant tube fail. It lost pressure suddenly and overnight without being ridden the day before. It started to split along a factory seam. This seems to happen ever since they started making them less than the usual 3mm thick towards the rim. Does anyone know who still makes the real stuff, 3mm thick all around? Or maybe another good version thorn-resistant tube? I am running 700c 25mm tires with an additional tire liner in there. Might go to 28mm in back some day. The only time I ever lost 3mm all-around tubes was upon violent tire blow-outs (sidewall failure). Your problem is not with the tubes, it's with the tires. What you want is Schwalbe Marathon Plus HS 440 11100766.01 700C x 25. But beware that the protection layer adds some height to the tire and it may not fit on all road bicycles with caliper brakes. I’d tend to agree though as ever others choices is theirs alone and some folks like to furrow their own path! This said in terms of vs thorns I’ve not found the plus useful, as though it is fairly thick 5mm or so it’s also quite soft so if something does penetrate the tyre it can work it’s way down, though this was with Hawthorn which is a different shape ie long shard rather than well the Goats head, which I’d assume would stop it from keeping going? At which point for the Plain Marathon plus the depth of tread/tyre and length of the Goats Head thorn is very close! I’d thought that Marathon Plus Touring which I used for a year or so would be a better fit, much more tread and very robust tyres, huge service life as well. I did switch them out to BigApples as well the ride was appalling! And bar 2x that I’d had Hawthorn after it had been shredded just manage to push though. Everything else just ie thorns/glass/shards etc just embedded its self in the tread harmlessly. And thus far just over a year 4K miles or so barely any wear, I’ve picked out the odd shard but nothing has made it though. After reading here about the horrors of goat head thorns, I was very worried before doing some rides or a tour out west. But we never had one goat head flat. I know my bicycling life is charmed (um, knock wood; or give thanks to La Madonna del Ghisallo and St. Christopher). But I wonder if I was just lucky, or if I was not riding in goat head areas, or if my lack of flats was due to my tendency to ride away from the road's edge. Car tires do sweep roads clean. -- - Frank Krygowski |
Does anyone know good thorn-resistant tubes?
On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 6:16:08 PM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/3/2020 12:03 PM, Roger Merriman wrote: sms wrote: On 4/30/2020 3:03 PM, Joerg wrote: Just had a Kenda thorn-resistant tube fail. It lost pressure suddenly and overnight without being ridden the day before. It started to split along a factory seam. This seems to happen ever since they started making them less than the usual 3mm thick towards the rim. Does anyone know who still makes the real stuff, 3mm thick all around? Or maybe another good version thorn-resistant tube? I am running 700c 25mm tires with an additional tire liner in there. Might go to 28mm in back some day. The only time I ever lost 3mm all-around tubes was upon violent tire blow-outs (sidewall failure). Your problem is not with the tubes, it's with the tires. What you want is Schwalbe Marathon Plus HS 440 11100766.01 700C x 25. But beware that the protection layer adds some height to the tire and it may not fit on all road bicycles with caliper brakes. I’d tend to agree though as ever others choices is theirs alone and some folks like to furrow their own path! This said in terms of vs thorns I’ve not found the plus useful, as though it is fairly thick 5mm or so it’s also quite soft so if something does penetrate the tyre it can work it’s way down, though this was with Hawthorn which is a different shape ie long shard rather than well the Goats head, which I’d assume would stop it from keeping going? At which point for the Plain Marathon plus the depth of tread/tyre and length of the Goats Head thorn is very close! I’d thought that Marathon Plus Touring which I used for a year or so would be a better fit, much more tread and very robust tyres, huge service life as well. I did switch them out to BigApples as well the ride was appalling! And bar 2x that I’d had Hawthorn after it had been shredded just manage to push though. Everything else just ie thorns/glass/shards etc just embedded its self in the tread harmlessly. And thus far just over a year 4K miles or so barely any wear, I’ve picked out the odd shard but nothing has made it though. After reading here about the horrors of goat head thorns, I was very worried before doing some rides or a tour out west. But we never had one goat head flat. I know my bicycling life is charmed (um, knock wood; or give thanks to La Madonna del Ghisallo and St. Christopher). But I wonder if I was just lucky, or if I was not riding in goat head areas, or if my lack of flats was due to my tendency to ride away from the road's edge. Car tires do sweep roads clean. -- - Frank Krygowski It was pure luck or the time of the year. Lou |
Does anyone know good thorn-resistant tubes?
On 5/3/2020 9:03 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
sms wrote: On 4/30/2020 3:03 PM, Joerg wrote: Just had a Kenda thorn-resistant tube fail. It lost pressure suddenly and overnight without being ridden the day before. It started to split along a factory seam. This seems to happen ever since they started making them less than the usual 3mm thick towards the rim. Does anyone know who still makes the real stuff, 3mm thick all around? Or maybe another good version thorn-resistant tube? I am running 700c 25mm tires with an additional tire liner in there. Might go to 28mm in back some day. The only time I ever lost 3mm all-around tubes was upon violent tire blow-outs (sidewall failure). Your problem is not with the tubes, it's with the tires. What you want is Schwalbe Marathon Plus HS 440 11100766.01 700C x 25. But beware that the protection layer adds some height to the tire and it may not fit on all road bicycles with caliper brakes. I’d tend to agree though as ever others choices is theirs alone and some folks like to furrow their own path! This said in terms of vs thorns I’ve not found the plus useful, as though it is fairly thick 5mm or so it’s also quite soft so if something does penetrate the tyre it can work it’s way down, though this was with Hawthorn which is a different shape ie long shard rather than well the Goats head, which I’d assume would stop it from keeping going? At which point for the Plain Marathon plus the depth of tread/tyre and length of the Goats Head thorn is very close! I’d thought that Marathon Plus Touring which I used for a year or so would be a better fit, much more tread and very robust tyres, huge service life as well. I did switch them out to BigApples as well the ride was appalling! And bar 2x that I’d had Hawthorn after it had been shredded just manage to push though. Everything else just ie thorns/glass/shards etc just embedded its self in the tread harmlessly. And thus far just over a year 4K miles or so barely any wear, I’ve picked out the odd shard but nothing has made it though. Roger Merriman Well the Big Apple is a much less expensive tire, I've even seen it as the stock tire on some new bicycles, though it's better than the cheap Kenda tires that seem to end up on a lot of lower end new bikes. For rolling resistance Schwalbe rates the Big Apple and the Marathon Plus the same, 3.5 out of 5. Surprised you thought the ride on the Big Apple was appalling. Or were you saying the opposite? I have the Marathon Plus on several bikes and don't notice a difference between them and the previous tires. |
Does anyone know good thorn-resistant tubes?
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/3/2020 12:03 PM, Roger Merriman wrote: sms wrote: On 4/30/2020 3:03 PM, Joerg wrote: Just had a Kenda thorn-resistant tube fail. It lost pressure suddenly and overnight without being ridden the day before. It started to split along a factory seam. This seems to happen ever since they started making them less than the usual 3mm thick towards the rim. Does anyone know who still makes the real stuff, 3mm thick all around? Or maybe another good version thorn-resistant tube? I am running 700c 25mm tires with an additional tire liner in there. Might go to 28mm in back some day. The only time I ever lost 3mm all-around tubes was upon violent tire blow-outs (sidewall failure). Your problem is not with the tubes, it's with the tires. What you want is Schwalbe Marathon Plus HS 440 11100766.01 700C x 25. But beware that the protection layer adds some height to the tire and it may not fit on all road bicycles with caliper brakes. I’d tend to agree though as ever others choices is theirs alone and some folks like to furrow their own path! This said in terms of vs thorns I’ve not found the plus useful, as though it is fairly thick 5mm or so it’s also quite soft so if something does penetrate the tyre it can work it’s way down, though this was with Hawthorn which is a different shape ie long shard rather than well the Goats head, which I’d assume would stop it from keeping going? At which point for the Plain Marathon plus the depth of tread/tyre and length of the Goats Head thorn is very close! I’d thought that Marathon Plus Touring which I used for a year or so would be a better fit, much more tread and very robust tyres, huge service life as well. I did switch them out to BigApples as well the ride was appalling! And bar 2x that I’d had Hawthorn after it had been shredded just manage to push though. Everything else just ie thorns/glass/shards etc just embedded its self in the tread harmlessly. And thus far just over a year 4K miles or so barely any wear, I’ve picked out the odd shard but nothing has made it though. After reading here about the horrors of goat head thorns, I was very worried before doing some rides or a tour out west. But we never had one goat head flat. I know my bicycling life is charmed (um, knock wood; or give thanks to La Madonna del Ghisallo and St. Christopher). But I wonder if I was just lucky, or if I was not riding in goat head areas, or if my lack of flats was due to my tendency to ride away from the road's edge. Car tires do sweep roads clean. They seem to like disturbed land or rather reported, apparently it’s well distributed across the world but likes dry land. Which means I probably have seen them in either Spain/France or Australia on scrub land. Though would have different names as is the way of the world! Roger Merriman |
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