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Kurgan Gringioni March 2nd 09 06:03 PM

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The Dow opened at under 7000 today. The high was over 14,000.

Nothing the matter with the economy. Nothing at all.

STOP THE FEAR MONGERING!

Mark & Steven Bornfeld March 2nd 09 06:41 PM

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Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
The Dow opened at under 7000 today. The high was over 14,000.

Nothing the matter with the economy. Nothing at all.

STOP THE FEAR MONGERING!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-oaKfEe8Cg

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

Bill C March 2nd 09 07:00 PM

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On Mar 2, 1:03*pm, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
The Dow opened at under 7000 today. The high was over 14,000.

Nothing the matter with the economy. Nothing at all.

STOP THE FEAR MONGERING!


Yep, guess if the government doesn't hand over trillions in pork
tomorrow to all the folks who got us into this, with little to no
oversight then we'll instantly, overnight become Etheopia which is
pretty much the line coming out of the WH on all this.
Sorry, don't buy it. My guess is more measured, controlled,
thoughtful, action doesn't mean that the lucky ones will at least have
dog carts to drive next week if we go that route.
This is the same as the AlQaeda and the Islamic Fundamentalists are
going to wipe out America as we know it and take over here if we don't
just sign a blank check for the Patriot Act and all the rest of the
**** that got passed in that panic.
When they are insisting that Congressmen have to vote to pass this
without even giving them the time to read the thousands of pages,
"trust us", then that's beyond ****ed up, but hey if it works for you
folks.
We get what we deserve.
Bill C

Mark & Steven Bornfeld March 2nd 09 07:34 PM

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Bill C wrote:
On Mar 2, 1:03 pm, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
The Dow opened at under 7000 today. The high was over 14,000.

Nothing the matter with the economy. Nothing at all.

STOP THE FEAR MONGERING!


Yep, guess if the government doesn't hand over trillions in pork
tomorrow to all the folks who got us into this, with little to no
oversight then we'll instantly, overnight become Etheopia which is
pretty much the line coming out of the WH on all this.
Sorry, don't buy it. My guess is more measured, controlled,
thoughtful, action doesn't mean that the lucky ones will at least have
dog carts to drive next week if we go that route.
This is the same as the AlQaeda and the Islamic Fundamentalists are
going to wipe out America as we know it and take over here if we don't
just sign a blank check for the Patriot Act and all the rest of the
**** that got passed in that panic.
When they are insisting that Congressmen have to vote to pass this
without even giving them the time to read the thousands of pages,
"trust us", then that's beyond ****ed up, but hey if it works for you
folks.
We get what we deserve.
Bill C



Our kids get what we deserve.

Steve

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

Paul G. March 2nd 09 07:40 PM

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On Mar 2, 11:00*am, Bill C wrote:

*When they are insisting that Congressmen have to vote to pass this
without even giving them the time to read the thousands of pages,
"trust us", then that's beyond ****ed up, but hey if it works for you
folks.


Practical consideration- how long do you figure it would take all 500+
members of Congress to read those thousands of pages? What would
happen in the meantime?
-Paul

Paul G. March 2nd 09 07:46 PM

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On Mar 2, 11:34*am, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
wrote:
Bill C wrote:
On Mar 2, 1:03 pm, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
The Dow opened at under 7000 today. The high was over 14,000.


Nothing the matter with the economy. Nothing at all.


STOP THE FEAR MONGERING!


Yep, guess if the government doesn't hand over trillions in pork
tomorrow to all the folks who got us into this, with little to no
oversight then we'll instantly, overnight become Etheopia which is
pretty much the line coming out of the WH on all this.
*Sorry, don't buy it. My guess is more measured, controlled,
thoughtful, action doesn't mean that the lucky ones will at least have
dog carts to drive next week if we go that route.
*This is the same as the AlQaeda and the Islamic Fundamentalists are
going to wipe out America as we know it and take over here if we don't
just sign a blank check for the Patriot Act and all the rest of the
**** that got passed in that panic.
*When they are insisting that Congressmen have to vote to pass this
without even giving them the time to read the thousands of pages,
"trust us", then that's beyond ****ed up, but hey if it works for you
folks.
*We get what we deserve.
*Bill C


Our kids get what we deserve.


Well said. It's not just kids. Imagine having done 3 tours in Iraq,
getting out of the military and realizing that since the cost of the
war was all charged on the national credit card, you're also going to
pay for it for the rest of your life.

-Paul



Bill C March 2nd 09 08:06 PM

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On Mar 2, 2:40*pm, "Paul G." wrote:
On Mar 2, 11:00*am, Bill C wrote:

*When they are insisting that Congressmen have to vote to pass this
without even giving them the time to read the thousands of pages,
"trust us", then that's beyond ****ed up, but hey if it works for you
folks.


Practical consideration- how long do you figure it would take all 500+
members of Congress to read those thousands of pages? *What would
happen in the meantime?
-Paul


Couple of weeks, maybe a month. In the meantime contain the fires as
best as possible, make the case that we are going to go into this with
a plan, the best possible advice, solid controls we haven't had in the
past, etc... Take a little bit of time to make sure all the ducks are
at least in a gaggle where you can line them up, and it looks like a
plan, not a kneejerk panic reaction.
The point here is that, just like the Bushco "security" crap there's
sure to be a ton of stuff in there that individual Congresscritters
and groups, and the administration slipped in that they don't want out
in the open until it's too late and the **** is passed.
There was NO need for the panic mongering after 9/11 and we'll be
paying that pice for generations, and I think the same for this.
The panic promises and the mad cash dumps already made haven't even
really slowed the crash much, what they have made clear is that there
is no real plan in place.
All sounds way too familiar, and as you point out our people here
now, and our grandkids will be paying the price for this stuff.
In FDR's defense, and you know what I think of him, he took time
while putting out the flareups, made a huge public show of bringing
together the best minds available, putting together the best people he
could find, and getting together with them to pretty publicy develop a
policy and plan that was well thought out and reasoned, no matter what
you actually think of the plan.
As Kurgan points out the stock market is a confidence game, and FDR
built confidence Obama says "trust me". Big difference.
Bill C

Tom Kunich March 2nd 09 08:46 PM

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"Bill C" wrote in message
...

There was NO need for the panic mongering after 9/11 and we'll be
paying that pice for generations, and I think the same for this.


What? Are you saying that we shouldn't have elected an avowed socialist into
office and then act surprised when he is destroying our system of
government?


Paul G. March 2nd 09 09:03 PM

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On Mar 2, 12:06*pm, Bill C wrote:
On Mar 2, 2:40*pm, "Paul G." wrote:

On Mar 2, 11:00*am, Bill C wrote:


*When they are insisting that Congressmen have to vote to pass this
without even giving them the time to read the thousands of pages,
"trust us", then that's beyond ****ed up, but hey if it works for you
folks.


Practical consideration- how long do you figure it would take all 500+
members of Congress to read those thousands of pages? *What would
happen in the meantime?
-Paul


Couple of weeks, maybe a month.


OK, and then what? Months of haggling over the details? A complete
rewrite? Then another month to read that, and start all over again?
We're in a crisis.
-Paul

Robert Chung[_2_] March 2nd 09 09:08 PM

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Tom Kunich wrote:

What? Are you saying that we shouldn't have elected an avowed
socialist into office and then act surprised when he is destroying
our system of government?


You hoping our President fails?




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