"councils could not "babysit everyone on a bike or urge them toslow down"
 

On 06/12/2018 11:00, wrote:
On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 12:20:39 AM UTC, TMS320 wrote:

That is one very important difference between a drunk cyclist and
a drunk driver.

Indeed - Tom Crispin of this parish once used the wriggle in court
that he could not possibly have been drunk and capable of riding a
bike as well.

He left the court a free man.

Indeed, many things about cycling concentrate the mind on the task in
hand compared to sitting in a comfy chair isolated from the world.

"councils could not "babysit everyone on a bike or urge them toslow down"
 

On 06/12/2018 14:13, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/12/2018 13:10, JNugent wrote:
On 06/12/2018 11:05, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/12/2018 02:01, JNugent wrote:


It is vanishingly unlikely that he had never used the route before
if he was using it to "cycle home" at 2:15 am. It is reasonable to
suppose that he knew full well that this pedestrian access had at
least two flights of steps along its length (he'll have been at
least as aware as anyone else of the local changes in level and the
need for steps or ramps).

I don't think it is "vanishingly unlikely" that a person can know
about a route but has no reason to use it normally. It was the middle
of May and a warm night, after all, and probably no rush to get home.
It's a nice time to be out exploring...

...whilst around three times over the alcohol limit (for driving). Yes
- what could be more natural or normal than exploring in the dark
(which is exactly the point) whilst ...er ... inebriated?

Fortunately not everybody is like you.

I am surprised that you go sightseeing around your home area after
midnight in the dark whilst ****ed, but I have no choice but to believe
you... or something.

"councils could not "babysit everyone on a bike or urge them toslow down"
 

On 06/12/2018 14:37, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
TMS320 wrote:
On 06/12/2018 13:10, JNugent wrote:

...whilst around three times over the alcohol limit (for driving).
Yes - what could be more natural or normal than exploring in the
dark (which is exactly the point) whilst ...er ... inebriated?

Fortunately not everybody is like you.

Most people actually are.

Err... which means not everybody.

"councils could not "babysit everyone on a bike or urge them toslow down"
 

On 06/12/2018 14:58, JNugent wrote:
On 06/12/2018 14:13, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/12/2018 13:10, JNugent wrote:
On 06/12/2018 11:05, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/12/2018 02:01, JNugent wrote:


It is vanishingly unlikely that he had never used the route before
if he was using it to "cycle home" at 2:15 am. It is reasonable to
suppose that he knew full well that this pedestrian access had at
least two flights of steps along its length (he'll have been at
least as aware as anyone else of the local changes in level and the
need for steps or ramps).

I don't think it is "vanishingly unlikely" that a person can know
about a route but has no reason to use it normally. It was the
middle of May and a warm night, after all, and probably no rush to
get home. It's a nice time to be out exploring...

...whilst around three times over the alcohol limit (for driving).
Yes - what could be more natural or normal than exploring in the dark
(which is exactly the point) whilst ...er ... inebriated?

Fortunately not everybody is like you.

I am surprised that you go sightseeing around your home area after
midnight in the dark whilst ****ed, but I have no choice but to believe
you... or something.

Some people like watching 22 men in fancy chase a leather ball round a
lawn. How weird.

"councils could not "babysit everyone on a bike or urge them toslow down"
 

On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 2:41:01 PM UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
wrote:
On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 12:20:39 AM UTC, TMS320 wrote:

That is one very important difference between a drunk cyclist and a
drunk driver.

Indeed - Tom Crispin of this parish once used the wriggle in court
that he could not possibly have been drunk and capable of riding a
bike as well.

He left the court a free man.

Cyclists wriggle all of the time.
And yes, I remember Crispin. Is he still around?

Inspired by me, he is on a grand tour of Europe in a VW camper before his lads have to go to school next year.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/uk.r...o/yFwPdVZuAAAJ

"councils could not "babysit everyone on a bike or urge them to slow down"
 

TMS320 wrote:
On 06/12/2018 14:58, JNugent wrote:
On 06/12/2018 14:13, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/12/2018 13:10, JNugent wrote:
On 06/12/2018 11:05, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/12/2018 02:01, JNugent wrote:


It is vanishingly unlikely that he had never used the route
before if he was using it to "cycle home" at 2:15 am. It is
reasonable to suppose that he knew full well that this
pedestrian access had at least two flights of steps along its
length (he'll have been at least as aware as anyone else of the
local changes in level and the need for steps or ramps).

I don't think it is "vanishingly unlikely" that a person can know
about a route but has no reason to use it normally. It was the
middle of May and a warm night, after all, and probably no rush to
get home. It's a nice time to be out exploring...

...whilst around three times over the alcohol limit (for driving).
Yes - what could be more natural or normal than exploring in the
dark (which is exactly the point) whilst ...er ... inebriated?

Fortunately not everybody is like you.

I am surprised that you go sightseeing around your home area after
midnight in the dark whilst ****ed, but I have no choice but to
believe you... or something.

Some people like watching 22 men in fancy chase a leather ball round a
lawn. How weird.

On footballing I have to agree with you, even though it does go against the
grain.

"councils could not "babysit everyone on a bike or urge them to slow down"
 

wrote:
On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 2:41:01 PM UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
wrote:
On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 12:20:39 AM UTC, TMS320 wrote:

That is one very important difference between a drunk cyclist and a
drunk driver.

Indeed - Tom Crispin of this parish once used the wriggle in court
that he could not possibly have been drunk and capable of riding a
bike as well.

He left the court a free man.

Cyclists wriggle all of the time.
And yes, I remember Crispin. Is he still around?

Inspired by me, he is on a grand tour of Europe in a VW camper before
his lads have to go to school next year.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/uk.r...o/yFwPdVZuAAAJ

This is three years ago.

"councils could not "babysit everyone on a bike or urge them toslow down"
 

On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 4:18:33 PM UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
wrote:
On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 2:41:01 PM UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
wrote:
On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 12:20:39 AM UTC, TMS320 wrote:

That is one very important difference between a drunk cyclist and a
drunk driver.

Indeed - Tom Crispin of this parish once used the wriggle in court
that he could not possibly have been drunk and capable of riding a
bike as well.

He left the court a free man.

Cyclists wriggle all of the time.
And yes, I remember Crispin. Is he still around?

Inspired by me, he is on a grand tour of Europe in a VW camper before
his lads have to go to school next year.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/uk.r...o/yFwPdVZuAAAJ

This is three years ago.

From 6MAY18.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/uk.r...g/xmHTHtd7AAAJ

"councils could not "babysit everyone on a bike or urge them toslow down"
 

On 06/12/2018 15:41, TMS320 wrote:

On 06/12/2018 14:58, JNugent wrote:
On 06/12/2018 14:13, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/12/2018 13:10, JNugent wrote:
On 06/12/2018 11:05, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/12/2018 02:01, JNugent wrote:


It is vanishingly unlikely that he had never used the route before
if he was using it to "cycle home" at 2:15 am. It is reasonable to
suppose that he knew full well that this pedestrian access had at
least two flights of steps along its length (he'll have been at
least as aware as anyone else of the local changes in level and
the need for steps or ramps).

I don't think it is "vanishingly unlikely" that a person can know
about a route but has no reason to use it normally. It was the
middle of May and a warm night, after all, and probably no rush to
get home. It's a nice time to be out exploring...

...whilst around three times over the alcohol limit (for driving).
Yes - what could be more natural or normal than exploring in the
dark (which is exactly the point) whilst ...er ... inebriated?

Fortunately not everybody is like you.

I am surprised that you go sightseeing around your home area after
midnight in the dark whilst ****ed, but I have no choice but to
believe you... or something.

Some people like watching 22 men in fancy chase a leather ball round a
lawn. How weird.

That they do so is rather more credible than your thesis on
heavily-intoxicated cyclists sightseeing after midnight in their home areas.

"councils could not "babysit everyone on a bike or urge them toslow down"
 

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 3:25:34 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 05/12/2018 08:29, Simon Jester wrote:
On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 6:32:10 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 04/12/2018 16:32, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 10:13:52 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 03/12/2018 21:33, MrCheerful wrote:

****ed cyclist on an unlit footpath at midnight, no helmet.Â*Â* Family try
to blame the council for their ****wit's death from head injuries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-46433610

QUOTE:
"The Loke" is a byway for pedestrians but Mr Warren's father said they
had been told by locals that it was used regularly by cyclists.
ENDQUOTE

Gerraway!

It must be the only pedestrian footway in the country used by cyclists.

What are the chances, eh?

Is there a street view image of the entrance to this 'byway for pedestrians'?
Since it is not beside a carriageway then, absent a TRO prohibiting cycling, it is fair game.

You can easily find it on Google Streetview.

Good luck trying to find a sign encouraging cyclists to negotiate a
flight of concrete stairs, up or down.

I don't need to find a sign encouraging cyclists to use it, the fact there is no sign prohibiting cyclists from using it is enough.

"There's no sign prohibiting me from cycling down this concrete
staircase so I'm going to do it and it's the council's fault ifI am
fatally injured".

OK. But don't take anyone innocent with you while you're doing it.

He was 32, he has been indoctrinated from birth to expect a law or a rule or an authority figure to tell him what to do at all times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMhURei8N6Q