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Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
Measures to help protect cyclists, including encouraging people to adopt
the "Dutch reach", are expected to be included in the new Highway Code. The method of opening a car door using the hand furthest from the handle forces drivers to turn and look behind them for passing cyclists. The code will also give updated guidance on how to avoid the dangers of close overtaking of cyclists. Cycling UK said the move was a major step for cycle safety. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 This is getting silly. If people can't be trusted to check for cyclists before they open a car door, then those drivers/passengers need educating in basic observance. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 -- Bod |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On 18/10/2018 19:05, Bod wrote:
Measures to help protect cyclists, including encouraging people to adopt the "Dutch reach", are expected to be included in the new Highway Code. The method of opening a car door using the hand furthest from the handle forces drivers to turn and look behind them for passing cyclists. The code will also give updated guidance on how to avoid the dangers of close overtaking of cyclists. Cycling UK said the move was a major step for cycle safety. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 This is getting silly. If people can't be trusted to check for cyclists before they open a car door, then those drivers/passengers need educating in basic observance. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 How would you propose to do that in the case of passengers? Ban them from being carried in motor vehicles unless they meet your standards? |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On 19/10/2018 00:00, JNugent wrote:
On 18/10/2018 19:05, Bod wrote: Measures to help protect cyclists, including encouraging people to adopt the "Dutch reach", are expected to be included in the new Highway Code. The method of opening a car door using the hand furthest from the handle forces drivers to turn and look behind them for passing cyclists. The code will also give updated guidance on how to avoid the dangers of close overtaking of cyclists. Cycling UK said the move was a major step for cycle safety. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 This is getting silly. If people can't be trusted to check for cyclists before they open a car door, then those drivers/passengers need educating in basic observance. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 How would you propose to do that in the case of passengers? Ban them from being carried in motor vehicles unless they meet your standards? I was talking rhetorically, but some things can be done to try to make people think and look before opening a car door. Tv/newspapers etc , like the Green Cross Code safety showings and the railway crossing safety info short videos. -- Bod |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On 19/10/2018 06:54, Bod wrote:
On 19/10/2018 00:00, JNugent wrote: On 18/10/2018 19:05, Bod wrote: Measures to help protect cyclists, including encouraging people to adopt the "Dutch reach", are expected to be included in the new Highway Code. The method of opening a car door using the hand furthest from the handle forces drivers to turn and look behind them for passing cyclists. The code will also give updated guidance on how to avoid the dangers of close overtaking of cyclists. Cycling UK said the move was a major step for cycle safety. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 This is getting silly. If people can't be trusted to check for cyclists before they open a car door, then those drivers/passengers need educating in basic observance. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 How would you propose to do that in the case of passengers? Ban them from being carried in motor vehicles unless they meet your standards? I was talking rhetorically, OK, but is that likely to be successful? but some things can be done to try to make people think and look before opening a car door. Such as...? Â*Tv/newspapersÂ* etc , like the Green Cross Code safety showings and the railway crossing safety info short videos. Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On 19/10/2018 22:42, JNugent wrote:
On 19/10/2018 06:54, Bod wrote: On 19/10/2018 00:00, JNugent wrote: On 18/10/2018 19:05, Bod wrote: Measures to help protect cyclists, including encouraging people to adopt the "Dutch reach", are expected to be included in the new Highway Code. The method of opening a car door using the hand furthest from the handle forces drivers to turn and look behind them for passing cyclists. The code will also give updated guidance on how to avoid the dangers of close overtaking of cyclists. Cycling UK said the move was a major step for cycle safety. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 This is getting silly. If people can't be trusted to check for cyclists before they open a car door, then those drivers/passengers need educating in basic observance. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 How would you propose to do that in the case of passengers? Ban them from being carried in motor vehicles unless they meet your standards? Â* Â* I was talking rhetorically, OK, but is that likely to be successful? but some things can be done to try to make people think and look before opening a car door. Such as...? Â*Â*Tv/newspapersÂ* etc , like the Green Cross Code safety showings and the railway crossing safety info short videos. Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Recently they have been warning about the dangers of wearing headphones whilst cycling and crossing roads etc. Also, but not related to roads, they warned about the dangers of train surfing. -- Bod |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On 20/10/2018 06:50, Bod wrote:
On 19/10/2018 22:42, JNugent wrote: On 19/10/2018 06:54, Bod wrote: On 19/10/2018 00:00, JNugent wrote: On 18/10/2018 19:05, Bod wrote: Measures to help protect cyclists, including encouraging people to adopt the "Dutch reach", are expected to be included in the new Highway Code. The method of opening a car door using the hand furthest from the handle forces drivers to turn and look behind them for passing cyclists. The code will also give updated guidance on how to avoid the dangers of close overtaking of cyclists. Cycling UK said the move was a major step for cycle safety. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 This is getting silly. If people can't be trusted to check for cyclists before they open a car door, then those drivers/passengers need educating in basic observance. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 How would you propose to do that in the case of passengers? Ban them from being carried in motor vehicles unless they meet your standards? Â* Â* I was talking rhetorically, OK, but is that likely to be successful? but some things can be done to try to make people think and look before opening a car door. Such as...? Â*Â*Tv/newspapersÂ* etc , like the Green Cross Code safety showings and the railway crossing safety info short videos. Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Recently they have been warning about the dangers of wearing headphones whilst cycling and crossing roads etc. Also, but not related to roads, they warned about the dangers of train surfing. I am glad to hear that the once ubiquitous PFI is not dead, but were these shown on the main TV channels? |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On 20/10/2018 12:01, JNugent wrote:
On 20/10/2018 06:50, Bod wrote: On 19/10/2018 22:42, JNugent wrote: On 19/10/2018 06:54, Bod wrote: On 19/10/2018 00:00, JNugent wrote: On 18/10/2018 19:05, Bod wrote: Measures to help protect cyclists, including encouraging people to adopt the "Dutch reach", are expected to be included in the new Highway Code. The method of opening a car door using the hand furthest from the handle forces drivers to turn and look behind them for passing cyclists. The code will also give updated guidance on how to avoid the dangers of close overtaking of cyclists. Cycling UK said the move was a major step for cycle safety. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 This is getting silly. If people can't be trusted to check for cyclists before they open a car door, then those drivers/passengers need educating in basic observance. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 How would you propose to do that in the case of passengers? Ban them from being carried in motor vehicles unless they meet your standards? Â* Â* I was talking rhetorically, OK, but is that likely to be successful? but some things can be done to try to make people think and look before opening a car door. Such as...? Â*Â*Tv/newspapersÂ* etc , like the Green Cross Code safety showings and the railway crossing safety info short videos. Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Recently they have been warning about the dangers of wearing headphones whilst cycling and crossing roads etc. Also, but not related to roads, they warned about the dangers of train surfing. I am glad to hear that the once ubiquitous PFI is not dead, but were these shown on the main TV channels? As far as I remember, yes. -- Bod |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 10:42:15 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Shouldn't that be PIF, Public Information Film? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=3s |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On 20/10/2018 12:28, Bod wrote:
On 20/10/2018 12:01, JNugent wrote: On 20/10/2018 06:50, Bod wrote: On 19/10/2018 22:42, JNugent wrote: On 19/10/2018 06:54, Bod wrote: On 19/10/2018 00:00, JNugent wrote: On 18/10/2018 19:05, Bod wrote: Measures to help protect cyclists, including encouraging people to adopt the "Dutch reach", are expected to be included in the new Highway Code. The method of opening a car door using the hand furthest from the handle forces drivers to turn and look behind them for passing cyclists. The code will also give updated guidance on how to avoid the dangers of close overtaking of cyclists. Cycling UK said the move was a major step for cycle safety. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 This is getting silly. If people can't be trusted to check for cyclists before they open a car door, then those drivers/passengers need educating in basic observance. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45900806 How would you propose to do that in the case of passengers? Ban them from being carried in motor vehicles unless they meet your standards? Â* Â* I was talking rhetorically, OK, but is that likely to be successful? but some things can be done to try to make people think and look before opening a car door. Such as...? Â*Â*Tv/newspapersÂ* etc , like the Green Cross Code safety showings and the railway crossing safety info short videos. Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Recently they have been warning about the dangers of wearing headphones whilst cycling and crossing roads etc. Also, but not related to roads, they warned about the dangers of train surfing. I am glad to hear that the once ubiquitous PFI is not dead, but were these shown on the main TV channels? As far as I remember, yes. I don't remember seeing any for years. I hope Joe and Petunia have a good pension scheme. |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On 20/10/2018 14:15, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 10:42:15 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Shouldn't that be PIF, Public Information Film? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=3s Yes, it should. Mea Culpa. |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 2:43:50 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/10/2018 14:15, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 10:42:15 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Shouldn't that be PIF, Public Information Film? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=3s Yes, it should. Mea Culpa. So you admit you were wrong. |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:59:23 GMT, Simon Jester
wrote: On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 2:43:50 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 20/10/2018 14:15, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 10:42:15 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Shouldn't that be PIF, Public Information Film? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=3s Yes, it should. Mea Culpa. So you admit you were wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=5m52s Augustus Windsock, what a legend! -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug. |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:59:23 GMT, Simon Jester wrote: On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 2:43:50 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 20/10/2018 14:15, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 10:42:15 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Shouldn't that be PIF, Public Information Film? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=3s Yes, it should. Mea Culpa. So you admit you were wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=5m52s Augustus Windsock, what a legend! Well done. You have finally managed to be a bigger prick than phucker. |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 6:08:37 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=5m52s Augustus Windsock, what a legend! Angus Windsock? |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:22:57 GMT, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote: Kerr-Mudd,John wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:59:23 GMT, Simon Jester wrote: On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 2:43:50 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 20/10/2018 14:15, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 10:42:15 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Shouldn't that be PIF, Public Information Film? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=3s Yes, it should. Mea Culpa. So you admit you were wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=5m52s Augustus Windsock, what a legend! Well done. You have finally managed to be a bigger prick than phucker. I'm sure you've called me that several times. It's a great honour. -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug. |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
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Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 6:08:37 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:59:23 GMT, Simon Jester wrote: On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 2:43:50 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 20/10/2018 14:15, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 10:42:15 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Shouldn't that be PIF, Public Information Film? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=3s Yes, it should. Mea Culpa. So you admit you were wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=5m52s Augustus Windsock, what a legend! The problem is we are brainwashing children from an early age that 'THE ROADS ARE FOR CARS'. Of course you must teach children how to cross roads safely because children are children and road danger comes exclusively from motor vehicles. The problem is they grow up thinking cars have priority over all other road users. |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 6:08:37 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:59:23 GMT, Simon Jester wrote: On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 2:43:50 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 20/10/2018 14:15, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 10:42:15 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Shouldn't that be PIF, Public Information Film? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=3s Yes, it should. Mea Culpa. So you admit you were wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=5m52s Augustus Windsock, what a legend! How did he manage to live so long without a helmet? |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On 20/10/2018 16:59, Simon Jester wrote:
On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 2:43:50 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 20/10/2018 14:15, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 10:42:15 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Shouldn't that be PIF, Public Information Film? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=3s Yes, it should. Mea Culpa. So you admit you were wrong. I allowed my fingers to type the more familiar PFI instead of PIF, so yes, that was wrong. If only your errors were as unimportant, eh? |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 23:26:28 GMT, Simon Jester
wrote: On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 6:08:37 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:59:23 GMT, Simon Jester wrote: On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 2:43:50 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 20/10/2018 14:15, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 10:42:15 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Shouldn't that be PIF, Public Information Film? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=3s Yes, it should. Mea Culpa. So you admit you were wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=5m52s Augustus Windsock, what a legend! How did he manage to live so long without a helmet? Sadly, it was by cycling in the ditch. -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug. |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On Sunday, October 21, 2018 at 3:00:59 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/10/2018 16:59, Simon Jester wrote: On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 2:43:50 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 20/10/2018 14:15, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 10:42:15 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Shouldn't that be PIF, Public Information Film? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=3s Yes, it should. Mea Culpa. So you admit you were wrong. I allowed my fingers to type the more familiar PFI instead of PIF, so yes, that was wrong. If only your errors were as unimportant, eh? I think it would be good for you to say 'My name is J and I was wrong'. Humans make mistakes, ADULT humans admit to their mistakes and try and learn from them. Please point out my errors. |
Highway Code may include 'Dutch reach' to keep cyclists safe
On 21/10/2018 15:55, Simon Jester wrote:
On Sunday, October 21, 2018 at 3:00:59 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 20/10/2018 16:59, Simon Jester wrote: On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 2:43:50 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 20/10/2018 14:15, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 10:42:15 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: Well, alright (and it isn't a bad idea), but when was the last time you saw a PFI on road or rail safety? Shouldn't that be PIF, Public Information Film? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suF8aa4Yv4&t=3s Yes, it should. Mea Culpa. So you admit you were wrong. I allowed my fingers to type the more familiar PFI instead of PIF, so yes, that was wrong. If only your errors were as unimportant, eh? I think it would be good for you to say 'My name is J and I was wrong'. I did, several posts back. What's your problem now? Humans make mistakes, ADULT humans admit to their mistakes and try and learn from them. When I make a typo, I readily admit to it and always have. I am not a trained typist, so I make a lot of typos. There's no point in pretending otherwise and I naver have. If you really want to, you could spend your evenings on Google Groups counting them. And you're just the one to do it, aren't you? Please point out my errors. You're perfect, aren't you? |
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