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The USA is sending Belgium a new ambassador and I don't mean Jonathan
Page. Please give him the welcome he deserves. Please TP his house or whatever the local customs dictate. http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002952.php Bret |
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"Bret" wrote: The USA is sending Belgium a new ambassador and I don't mean Jonathan Page. Please give him the welcome he deserves. Please TP his house or whatever the local customs dictate. http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002952.php He sure loves that recess appointment trick, doesn't he? -- tanx, Howard Never take a tenant with a monkey. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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On 4 Apr 2007 20:21:29 -0700, "Bret" wrote:
The USA is sending Belgium a new ambassador and I don't mean Jonathan Page. Please give him the welcome he deserves. Please TP his house or whatever the local customs dictate. http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002952.php More evidence (as if we needed it) that Bush doesn't regognize a role for other branches of government. -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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On Apr 5, 6:41 am, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote: On 4 Apr 2007 20:21:29 -0700, "Bret" wrote: The USA is sending Belgium a new ambassador and I don't mean Jonathan Page. Please give him the welcome he deserves. Please TP his house or whatever the local customs dictate. http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002952.php More evidence (as if we needed it) that Bush doesn't regognize a role for other branches of government. -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visithttp://www.jt10000.com **************************** Does this mean you'd agree with blocking everyone who's donated to MoveOn.org too? They've done more than their share of attack pieces too. Bill C |
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On 5 Apr 2007 04:13:10 -0700, "Bill C"
wrote: On Apr 5, 6:41 am, John Forrest Tomlinson wrote: On 4 Apr 2007 20:21:29 -0700, "Bret" wrote: The USA is sending Belgium a new ambassador and I don't mean Jonathan Page. Please give him the welcome he deserves. Please TP his house or whatever the local customs dictate. http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002952.php More evidence (as if we needed it) that Bush doesn't regognize a role for other branches of government. Does this mean you'd agree with blocking everyone who's donated to MoveOn.org too? They've done more than their share of attack pieces too. Well I didn't comment on Fox but rather on Bush, but I'll answer your question anyway. Every large organization will have some members of it that tell lies or mislead. Moveon, NRA, RNC, Democratic Party, NOW, Catholic Church...the list goes on. I don' think supporters of any of these should be kept out of government service. The Swiftboat Veterans were 100% about lies designed to influence the presidential election. The role of Congress in appointments is to look at the overall picture of nominees. Sure, someone who funds explicit lies to influence a presidential election and then pretends he didn't realize how bad it was while speaking to Congress doesn't deserve to serve our country. -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 07:58:57 -0400, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote: On 5 Apr 2007 04:13:10 -0700, "Bill C" wrote: On Apr 5, 6:41 am, John Forrest Tomlinson wrote: On 4 Apr 2007 20:21:29 -0700, "Bret" wrote: The USA is sending Belgium a new ambassador and I don't mean Jonathan Page. Please give him the welcome he deserves. Please TP his house or whatever the local customs dictate. http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002952.php More evidence (as if we needed it) that Bush doesn't regognize a role for other branches of government. Does this mean you'd agree with blocking everyone who's donated to MoveOn.org too? They've done more than their share of attack pieces too. Well I didn't comment on Fox but rather on Bush, but I'll answer your question anyway. Every large organization will have some members of it that tell lies or mislead. Moveon, NRA, RNC, Democratic Party, NOW, Catholic Church...the list goes on. I don' think supporters of any of these should be kept out of government service. The Swiftboat Veterans were 100% about lies designed to influence the presidential election. The role of Congress in appointments is to look at the overall picture of nominees. Sure, someone who funds explicit lies to influence a presidential election and then pretends he didn't realize how bad it was while speaking to Congress doesn't deserve to serve our country. "(E)xplicit lies to influence a presidential election." sounds a lot like the Kerry campaign. You know the guy who was running guns to the Khmer Rouge on Christmas of 1968 at the orders of Richard Nixon. When a guy who says crap like that is praised as a war hero then you're damn right people will pay money to oppose him. |
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On Apr 5, 7:58 am, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote: On 5 Apr 2007 04:13:10 -0700, "Bill C" wrote: On Apr 5, 6:41 am, John Forrest Tomlinson wrote: On 4 Apr 2007 20:21:29 -0700, "Bret" wrote: The USA is sending Belgium a new ambassador and I don't mean Jonathan Page. Please give him the welcome he deserves. Please TP his house or whatever the local customs dictate. http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002952.php More evidence (as if we needed it) that Bush doesn't regognize a role for other branches of government. Does this mean you'd agree with blocking everyone who's donated to MoveOn.org too? They've done more than their share of attack pieces too. Well I didn't comment on Fox but rather on Bush, but I'll answer your question anyway. Every large organization will have some members of it that tell lies or mislead. Moveon, NRA, RNC, Democratic Party, NOW, Catholic Church...the list goes on. I don' think supporters of any of these should be kept out of government service. The Swiftboat Veterans were 100% about lies designed to influence the presidential election. The role of Congress in appointments is to look at the overall picture of nominees. Sure, someone who funds explicit lies to influence a presidential election and then pretends he didn't realize how bad it was while speaking to Congress doesn't deserve to serve our country. -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visithttp://www.jt10000.com ****************************- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Unfortunately flat out liars have been a huge part of our political process forever. I agree that he shouldn't have even been nominated for the post, but it's pretty typical of taking care of donors and activists. Bill Clinton did a great job of it too. There's so much crap going on that's based purely on political character assasination and not merit it's ridiculous. I've got a little different spin on the US attorneys mess too. While it's obvious that just about everyone from the administration that was involved is pretty sleazy at best, and Gonzales is a criminal scumbag the issue itself is BS. Traditionally when a new President takes over, and most have done it, they fire the previous ones and replace them with their politcal supporters who meet their particular political litmus test, wholesale. Based purely on ideology and cronyism, just what they are accusing Bush of, except that Bush kept far more of Clinton's democratic appointees on and waited, evaluated, and replaced a handful based on the same criteria that usually caused the wholesale dismissals without any evaluation at all. There's no way you can argue that ideology today isnt THE basis for legal positions that are appointed today either. The Courts, right up to and including the Supreme Court, and the confirmation process make that clear as it can be. One of the things that gets glossed over is that the Democrats, during this adeministration have blocked more nominees to court positions than were blocked by a Republican controlled Congress did to Clinton, and by a huge margin. There are definitely out of the norm things in Kerry's military record and I suspect that it is the typical inflation for somone who had connections. Bush sure as hell got away with a lot more, and I can't stand Kerry, but in the end you can't say he didn't do his job, and fairly well while in service. You really have to dig to find it now, but the Naval investigating board had, initially, actually recommended that JFK face charges, including dereliction of duty for the PT109 incident. That changed in a hurry due to the pressure his father brought to bear, and the fact that we really could have used a "Hero" story at that point in the war and noone denies that JFK was heroic after he got his boat cut in half so it wasn't too hard, but that doesn't excuse the fact that he as commander he was asleep with noone standing watch, which is why they recommended the charges. It's was actually exploited similarly to with what they did with Pat Tillman. The great naval historian S.E. Morrison had included the whole incident in one of his books, but the rest of his works follow the "new" official Naval version. If you are connected you get treated differently, in the civilian justice system too. Bill C |
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Bret wrote:
The USA is sending Belgium a new ambassador and I don't mean Jonathan Page. Please give him the welcome he deserves. Please TP his house or whatever the local customs dictate. http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002952.php Bret Great troll, well formed and with good potential. Tailor made for guys like Bill C and Kunich. Good work. Shame you didn't cross-post the **** out of it to maximize the audience. I think that'll cut down the run time, but we'll see. Bob Schwartz |
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On Apr 5, 11:18 am, Bob Schwartz
wrote: Bret wrote: The USA is sending Belgium a new ambassador and I don't mean Jonathan Page. Please give him the welcome he deserves. Please TP his house or whatever the local customs dictate. http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002952.php Bret Great troll, well formed and with good potential. Tailor made for guys like Bill C and Kunich. Good work. Shame you didn't cross-post the **** out of it to maximize the audience. I think that'll cut down the run time, but we'll see. Bob Schwartz Nah, JT got me in. Not much to really talk about here. They all reward their donors no matter how sleazy so what's to discuss other than maybe Tom going off. Realistically, how tough a job is ambassador to Belgium? Bill C |
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Bill C wrote:
Realistically, how tough a job is ambassador to Belgium? You have to (learn to) speak French and Dutch. -- E. Dronkert |
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