TROLLFEST: The Coercive, Surreptitious Transgender Legal Agenda
 

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 7:25:33 AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 1:34:56 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 12:49:57 AM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 2:10:40 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
I certainly hope there are no cyclists of uncertain gender involved in this immoral activity.

The Coercive, Surreptitious Transgender Legal Agenda:
https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...-legal-agenda/

Andre Jute
It's bad enough knowing so many lawyers; anti-social cyclists would be too much

The world's biggest law firm is very likely to shed a few layers.

As my banker used to say, "From your lips to God's ears."

I imagine that the young lawyers who wrote this despicable document persuaded their seniors that
"transgender transition advocacy and lobbying is a new, rich legal trend and we should be in on the ground floor". Unlike most other cases of legal-profession overreach, it would be worse if a bunch of lawyers did this despicable thing from personal conviction, but in either case their bar council should act against them. Given under the assumption that the lawyers who run the bar council in question can distinguish the morality of their own rules from the relativity of this crap, which these days is no longer certain.

Andre Jute
We live in a decadent age. Apres moi le deluge.

Except for a vanishingly small number of parents who are set on forcing a young child to change their sex where would "The World's Largest Law Firm" gain defendants to represent against those evil doctors whose ethics will not allow them to do such things to children too young to even know what it means?

And who would ever do business with such ethic-less people?

Here's an example of those "small number" of parents on a web-logger named Sydney Watson's site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sV2zeE4X08
and the title:
Forcing kids to transition: two horrific cases that EVERYONE needs to know

It's all rather stunning to me.
In my opinion at some point it the minority's duty to try to fit into society rather than society be forced to convolute itself to fit the minority.

The rub, of course, is where that point is. Society has never bent over backwards to accommodate us poor, maligned left-handers; we simply adapt.

pH in Aptos

TROLLFEST: The Coercive, Surreptitious Transgender Legal Agenda
 

It seems to me the right of queer people to be queer, whatever that means to them, is the same as the right of straight people to be straight-- whatever that means to them.

Most of it isn't my cup of tea, or my business, really.

TROLLFEST: The Coercive, Surreptitious Transgender Legal Agenda
 

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 3:41:55 AM UTC, pH wrote:
On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 7:25:33 AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 1:34:56 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 12:49:57 AM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 2:10:40 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
I certainly hope there are no cyclists of uncertain gender involved in this immoral activity.

The Coercive, Surreptitious Transgender Legal Agenda:
https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...-legal-agenda/

Andre Jute
It's bad enough knowing so many lawyers; anti-social cyclists would be too much

The world's biggest law firm is very likely to shed a few layers.

As my banker used to say, "From your lips to God's ears."

I imagine that the young lawyers who wrote this despicable document persuaded their seniors that
"transgender transition advocacy and lobbying is a new, rich legal trend and we should be in on the ground floor". Unlike most other cases of legal-profession overreach, it would be worse if a bunch of lawyers did this despicable thing from personal conviction, but in either case their bar council should act against them. Given under the assumption that the lawyers who run the bar council in question can distinguish the morality of their own rules from the relativity of this crap, which these days is no longer certain.

Andre Jute
We live in a decadent age. Apres moi le deluge.

Except for a vanishingly small number of parents who are set on forcing a young child to change their sex where would "The World's Largest Law Firm" gain defendants to represent against those evil doctors whose ethics will not allow them to do such things to children too young to even know what it means?

And who would ever do business with such ethic-less people?

Here's an example of those "small number" of parents on a web-logger named Sydney Watson's site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sV2zeE4X08
and the title:
Forcing kids to transition: two horrific cases that EVERYONE needs to know

It's all rather stunning to me.
In my opinion at some point it the minority's duty to try to fit into society rather than society be forced to convolute itself to fit the minority.

The rub, of course, is where that point is. Society has never bent over backwards to accommodate us poor, maligned left-handers; we simply adapt.

pH in Aptos

It seems to me that the entire world order is being upset to cater for the tiniest of minorities. But the point here is not about minorities per se, but about people forcing their political beliefs onto children who are irreversibly physically altered to meet that political "reality". So it is really about protecting children by keeping their options open.

Re your remark about being left-handed, within living memory, indeed, attempts were made to force left-handers to write right-handed.

Andre Jute
Ambidextrous

TROLLFEST: The Coercive, Surreptitious Transgender Legal Agenda
 

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 4:56:28 AM UTC, Chalo wrote:
It seems to me the right of queer people to be queer, whatever that means to them, is the same as the right of straight people to be straight-- whatever that means to them.

Most of it isn't my cup of tea, or my business, really.

I have no problem with other people's choices, Chalo. I'm out of the theatre and advertising, which would both collapse if homosexuals (of either gender) were banned. One of the reasons sharia culture is so impoverished is because homosexuals cannot contribute to it. My problem is when other people's choices are forced on the conformist majority, the way it wasn't enough to say Jenner's choices were Jenner's choices, but people were hounded for not *celebrating" his/her/its choice. That's bull****, whatever Jenner is called, as an assault on free thinking and free speech is always bull****.

And I don't see why it is my problem to keep up with the current day's preferred terminology, which every day is different from the day before. Your "queers" for decades was pejorative; it only came back into fashion because some tiny fraction of homosexuals didn't have the imagination to think up a different word to differentiate their particular victimhood from the homosexuals next door.

Andre Jute
Let's take back the word "gay" to mean bright, cheerful, entertaining

TROLLFEST: The Coercive, Surreptitious Transgender Legal Agenda
 

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 7:41:55 PM UTC-8, pH wrote:
On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 7:25:33 AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 1:34:56 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 12:49:57 AM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 2:10:40 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
I certainly hope there are no cyclists of uncertain gender involved in this immoral activity.

The Coercive, Surreptitious Transgender Legal Agenda:
https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...-legal-agenda/

Andre Jute
It's bad enough knowing so many lawyers; anti-social cyclists would be too much

The world's biggest law firm is very likely to shed a few layers.

As my banker used to say, "From your lips to God's ears."

I imagine that the young lawyers who wrote this despicable document persuaded their seniors that
"transgender transition advocacy and lobbying is a new, rich legal trend and we should be in on the ground floor". Unlike most other cases of legal-profession overreach, it would be worse if a bunch of lawyers did this despicable thing from personal conviction, but in either case their bar council should act against them. Given under the assumption that the lawyers who run the bar council in question can distinguish the morality of their own rules from the relativity of this crap, which these days is no longer certain.

Andre Jute
We live in a decadent age. Apres moi le deluge.

Except for a vanishingly small number of parents who are set on forcing a young child to change their sex where would "The World's Largest Law Firm" gain defendants to represent against those evil doctors whose ethics will not allow them to do such things to children too young to even know what it means?

And who would ever do business with such ethic-less people?

Here's an example of those "small number" of parents on a web-logger named Sydney Watson's site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sV2zeE4X08
and the title:
Forcing kids to transition: two horrific cases that EVERYONE needs to know

It's all rather stunning to me.
In my opinion at some point it the minority's duty to try to fit into society rather than society be forced to convolute itself to fit the minority.

The rub, of course, is where that point is. Society has never bent over backwards to accommodate us poor, maligned left-handers; we simply adapt.

pH in Aptos

The real problem as pointed out is that these children are far too young to know anything about what is going on. My grandchild is 8 years old and his hair looks like that of a girl. That is the way he wants his hair but he sure isn't a girl.

I see you're in Aptos. The next time we have a group overnighter down there I'll let you know and you can join the group for dinner.

TROLLFEST: The Coercive, Surreptitious Transgender Legal Agenda
 

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 8:56:28 PM UTC-8, Chalo wrote:
It seems to me the right of queer people to be queer, whatever that means to them, is the same as the right of straight people to be straight-- whatever that means to them.

Most of it isn't my cup of tea, or my business, really.

We're in complete agreement. But WHY does the left think that they have to make them a special group worthy of large scale advertising? Most people would rather not know that you suck men off.