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On Nov 16, 9:50*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 15, 9:34 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] You wouldn't last a single year as a hermit Irrelevant ... since, as previously stated SEVERAL TIMES, I have no such inclination. whereas I have lived the past 40 years pretty much as a hermit. That takes Greatness! Delusion is such a comfort. *As is often the case, our conclusion does not strictly follow from your premise. *Do not misconstrue living a voluntary cloistered, estranged life with fantasised greatness. You need to give the hermit's life a chance. I do??? Leave your wife and dogs. Then go to Montana and live in a shack in the mountains for 5 years by yourself with little or no contact with others. If you can do that, you will have proven to me that you can be a hermit like me. I never have and never will dance to your music. Your reading comprehension skill are abominable. I said several times that the life of a hermit does not in the least interest me. I could never be that dysfunctional. Attempting to prove anything to you only proves one thing ... that you matter and what you think matters, and well ... you don't and it doesn't. Then you can have a name like mine too ... *Jim McNamara the Great! I repeat ... Do not misconstrue living a voluntary cloistered, estranged life with fantasised greatness. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Nov 16, 9:41*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 15, 9:23 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: "JimmyMac" wrote in message .... [...] This is precisely why you cannot and will not pull the plug ... because, despite what you indicated, it is inconvenient for you to do so. You asserted that computers were unimportant in your life and could be lived without which is obviously untrue. Pulling the plug would not be a convenience to me but rather an inconvenience for you and a godsend to the members of the newsgroups that you infest. I will stay here forever just to spite you. Thanks for the frank admission and confirmation that cannot do without your computer and the internet which, in reality, have become an essential and *significant facet of your hermetic existence. *You really need to work on this bad habit of contradicting yourself. Unlike you, I move on from one subject to another depending on what gets said. And that would be when ... after you contradict yourself and someone make and issue of it? Depending upon what gets said ... as in ... oops he's got me ... better move onto another subject and hope he doesn't notice the diversion. Is your position so indefensible that you find it necessary to change the topic and move on? Either you can live as a hermit without the use of you computer adn the internet as you have asserted or you cannot. The latter is obviously the truth that you are running from. It must be horrible to be stuck forever on one just subject, i.e., Ed Dolan the Great! You always desperately play that card when you have no other card left to play. Tell you what, admit that you cannot do without your computer and the internet (your cybet-umbilical chord) and be done with this subject. The fact is that you CANNOT do without your computer and the internet and you WILL NOT admit it. At this juncture, that much should be obvious to all. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 16, 9:41 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] Unlike you, I move on from one subject to another depending on what gets said. And that would be when ... after you contradict yourself and someone make and issue of it? Depending upon what gets said ... as in ... oops he's got me ... better move onto another subject and hope he doesn't notice the diversion. Is your position so indefensible that you find it necessary to change the topic and move on? Either you can live as a hermit without the use of you computer adn the internet as you have asserted or you cannot. The latter is obviously the truth that you are running from. You must be an idiot. I have lived most of my life as a hermit without a computer. I could easily live the rest of my life without a computer, but why should I. I can find lots to amuse me on it, like these ****ing stupid newsgroups for instance. It must be horrible to be stuck forever on one just subject, i.e., Ed Dolan the Great! You always desperately play that card when you have no other card left to play. Tell you what, admit that you cannot do without your computer and the internet (your cybet-umbilical chord) and be done with this subject. The fact is that you CANNOT do without your computer and the internet and you WILL NOT admit it. At this juncture, that much should be obvious to all. "You must be an idiot. I have lived most of my life as a hermit without a computer. I could easily live the rest of my life without a computer, but why should I. I can find lots to amuse me on it, like these ****ing stupid newsgroups for instance." - Ed Dolan Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 16, 9:50 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] Leave your wife and dogs. Then go to Montana and live in a shack in the mountains for 5 years by yourself with little or no contact with others. If you can do that, you will have proven to me that you can be a hermit like me. I never have and never will dance to your music. Your reading comprehension skill are abominable. I said several times that the life of a hermit does not in the least interest me. I could never be that dysfunctional. Attempting to prove anything to you only proves one thing ... that you matter and what you think matters, and well ... you don't and it doesn't. Just as I thought. You could never do it! Then you can have a name like mine too ... Jim McNamara the Great! I repeat ... Do not misconstrue living a voluntary cloistered, estranged life with fantasised greatness. You must live the life of a lone eagle in order to be Great. There is no other way! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Nov 18, 3:42*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 16, 9:50 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] Leave your wife and dogs. Then go to Montana and live in a shack in the mountains for 5 years by yourself with little or no contact with others. If you can do that, you will have proven to me that you can be a hermit like me. I never have and never will dance to your music. Your reading comprehension skills are abominable. *I said several times that the life of a hermit does not in the least interest me. *I could never be that dysfunctional. * Attempting to prove anything to you only proves one thing ... that you matter and what you think matters, and well ... you don't and it doesn't. Just as I thought. You could never do it! Just as I thought ... your reading comprehension skills are abominable. I see you're playing stupid again and it looks like you're winning. Then you can have a name like mine too ... Jim McNamara the Great! I repeat ... Do not misconstrue living a voluntary cloistered, estranged life with fantasised greatness. You must live the life of a lone eagle in order to be Great. There is no other way! Opinion stated as fact ... nothing new there.. Don't sing it ... prove that you are this mythological great lone eagle. Pull the computer plug, abandon the internet, sever your cyber-umbilical chord. and return to your books and cats. If you can't do that then is no longer any need for you to continue to insult the readers intelligence by pretending that you can. Insistence without action only serves to undermine your credibility. You will only convince the readership of your sincerity when you follow through. Until then, you can stop blowing sunshine up our collective asses. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Nov 18, 3:38*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 16, 9:41 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] Unlike you, I move on from one subject to another depending on what gets said. And that would be when ... after you contradict yourself and someone make and issue of it? *Depending upon what gets said ... as in ... oops he's got me ... better move onto another subject and hope he doesn't notice the diversion. *Is your position so indefensible that you find it necessary to change the topic and move on? *Either you can live as a hermit without the use of you computer and the internet as you have asserted or you cannot. *The latter is obviously the truth that you are running from. You must be an idiot. I have lived most of my life as a hermit without a computer. I could easily live the rest of my life without a computer, but why should I. I can find lots to amuse me on it, like these ****ing stupid newsgroups for instance. The past is the past and this is the here and now and in the here and now is it apparent that you are incapable of severing your cyber- umbilical chord. You have made that quite clear at this juncture. You cannot consider yourself to be a true hermit until you have done so. No hermit worthy of the label would have a computer and/or internet connection. It must be horrible to be stuck forever on one just subject, i.e., Ed Dolan the Great! You always desperately play that card when you have no other card left to play. *Tell you what, admit that you cannot do without your computer and the internet (your cybet-umbilical chord) and be done with this subject. *The fact is that you CANNOT do without your computer and the internet and you WILL NOT admit it. *At this juncture, that much should be obvious to all. "You must be an idiot. I have lived most of my life as a hermit without a computer. I could easily live the rest of my life without a computer, but why should I. I can find lots to amuse me on it, like these ****ing stupid newsgroups for instance." - Ed Dolan Repeating an assertion does not make a statement anymore true than when first presented. Regardless, thanks for the confirmation that you can nether do without your computer and your internet connection nor admit it. It is a given that your past is a lifestyle of the "was" and your present is a lifestyle of the "is". I challenged you to prove that you can adopt the lifestyle of your past (devoid of computer and internet connection) as asserted and you failed to take up the challenge. In the process, you effectively verified as fallacious your contention that you can live without a computer and internet connection. Real hermits don't own computers! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Nov 18, 3:38*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 16, 9:41 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] Unlike you, I move on from one subject to another depending on what gets said. And that would be when ... after you contradict yourself and someone make and issue of it? *Depending upon what gets said ... as in ... oops he's got me ... better move onto another subject and hope he doesn't notice the diversion. *Is your position so indefensible that you find it necessary to change the topic and move on? *Either you can live as a hermit without the use of you computer and the internet as you have asserted or you cannot. *The latter is obviously the truth that you are running from. You must be an idiot. I have lived most of my life as a hermit without a computer. I could easily live the rest of my life without a computer, but why should I. I can find lots to amuse me on it, like these ****ing stupid newsgroups for instance. The past is the past and this is the here and now and in the here and now is it apparent that you are incapable of severing your cyber- umbilical chord. You have made that quite clear at this juncture. You cannot consider yourself to be a true hermit until you have done so. No hermit worthy of the label would have a computer and/or internet connection. It must be horrible to be stuck forever on one just subject, i.e., Ed Dolan the Great! You always desperately play that card when you have no other card left to play. *Tell you what, admit that you cannot do without your computer and the internet (your cybet-umbilical chord) and be done with this subject. *The fact is that you CANNOT do without your computer and the internet and you WILL NOT admit it. *At this juncture, that much should be obvious to all. "You must be an idiot. I have lived most of my life as a hermit without a computer. I could easily live the rest of my life without a computer, but why should I. I can find lots to amuse me on it, like these ****ing stupid newsgroups for instance." - Ed Dolan Repeating an assertion does not make a statement anymore true than when first presented. Regardless, thanks for the confirmation that you can nether do without your computer and your internet connection nor admit it. It is a given that your past is a lifestyle of the "was" and your present is a lifestyle of the "is". I challenged you to prove that you can adopt the lifestyle of your past (devoid of computer and internet connection) as asserted and you failed to take up the challenge. In the process, you effectively verified as fallacious your contention that you can live without a computer and internet connection. Real hermits don't own computers! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 3:38 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] You must be an idiot. I have lived most of my life as a hermit without a computer. I could easily live the rest of my life without a computer, but why should I. I can find lots to amuse me on it, like these ****ing stupid newsgroups for instance. The past is the past and this is the here and now and in the here and now is it apparent that you are incapable of severing your cyber- umbilical chord. You have made that quite clear at this juncture. You cannot consider yourself to be a true hermit until you have done so. No hermit worthy of the label would have a computer and/or internet connection. Being a hermit has nothing to do with cutting yourself off from a culture, which in part is what a computer and the Internet provides. It simply means that you do not see many people and prefer to be alone. [...] Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 3:42 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] You must live the life of a lone eagle in order to be Great. There is no other way! Opinion stated as fact ... nothing new there.. Don't sing it ... prove that you are this mythological great lone eagle. Pull the computer plug, abandon the internet, sever your cyber-umbilical chord. and return to your books and cats. If you can't do that then is no longer any need for you to continue to insult the readers intelligence by pretending that you can. Insistence without action only serves to undermine your credibility. You will only convince the readership of your sincerity when you follow through. Until then, you can stop blowing sunshine up our collective asses. This lone eagle of which I speak must also reside on a mountain top isolated from all the rest of the world. The lone eagle does only one thing ... it stares into the ether. If you would be Great, that is what you must do. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Nov 18, 10:07*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 3:38 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] You must be an idiot. I have lived most of my life as a hermit without a computer. I could easily live the rest of my life without a computer, but why should I. I can find lots to amuse me on it, like these ****ing stupid newsgroups for instance. The past is the past and this is the here and now and in the here and now is it apparent that you are incapable of severing *your cyber- umbilical chord. *You have made that quite clear at this juncture. You cannot consider yourself to be a true hermit until you have done so. * *No hermit worthy of the label would have a computer and/or internet connection. Being a hermit has nothing to do with cutting yourself off from a culture, which in part is what a computer and the Internet provides. It simply means that you do not see many people and prefer to be alone. [... Contradicting yourself again??? Am I to assume that you are now recanting your previous statement when you wrote ... Unlike JimmyMac, I was never stupid enough to think computers were important. Well are they or are they not stupid? That is the question and which Ed really believes is yet another. If I am to accept the preposterous premise that a computer and the internet comprise a conduit to culture, than that begs the question as to what was the conduit in the past prior to the invention of the computer and the internet. A hermit shuns all form of social contact and interaction with others, so then you must not be a true hermit, sort of like being a lacto-ov-vegetarian or a pescatarian. No matter though. You are what you are, but the bottom line is that you will not discard the computer and internet connection and will not admit that you are unwilling and unable to do so. You have made is abundantly clear that regardless of what you have said to the contrary, the computer and the internet are an integral part of your compromised semi- hermetic lifestyle. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Nov 18, 10:12*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 3:42 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] You must live the life of a lone eagle in order to be Great. There is no other way! Opinion stated as fact ... nothing new there.. *Don't sing it ... prove that you are this mythological great lone eagle. *Pull the computer plug, abandon the internet, sever your cyber-umbilical chord. and return to your books and cats. *If you can't do that then is no longer any need for you to continue to insult the readers intelligence by pretending that you can. *Insistence without action only serves to undermine your credibility. *You will only convince the readership of your sincerity when you follow through. *Until then, you can stop blowing sunshine up our collective asses. This lone eagle of which I speak must also reside on a mountain top isolated from all the rest of the world. The lone eagle does only one thing ... it stares into the ether. If you would be Great, that is what you must do. You have a computer and internet connection that works up there? Irrelevant diversion duly noted. You, your computer and your internet connection are inseparable. Until you become detached ,you are not a lone eagle ... not even a traditional hermit in accordance with a purist's strict definition. No matter what kind of spin you vainly attempt to put on all this, the reality of the situation is not altered. You live a semi-hermetic lifestyle regardless of the label you put on it. To become are lone eagle of a hermit the computer must go. So which one are you will to give up ... the label or the computer? The conundrum continues. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 10:07 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] Being a hermit has nothing to do with cutting yourself off from a culture, which in part is what a computer and the Internet provides. It simply means that you do not see many people and prefer to be alone. [...] Contradicting yourself again??? Am I to assume that you are now recanting your previous statement when you wrote ... Unlike JimmyMac, I was never stupid enough to think computers were important. Well are they or are they not stupid? That is the question and which Ed really believes is yet another. If I am to accept the preposterous premise that a computer and the internet comprise a conduit to culture, than that begs the question as to what was the conduit in the past prior to the invention of the computer and the internet. A hermit shuns all form of social contact and interaction with others, so then you must not be a true hermit, sort of like being a lacto-ov-vegetarian or a pescatarian. No matter though. You are what you are, but the bottom line is that you will not discard the computer and internet connection and will not admit that you are unwilling and unable to do so. You have made is abundantly clear that regardless of what you have said to the contrary, the computer and the internet are an integral part of your compromised semi- hermetic lifestyle. A computer and the Internet are NOT important, but they are amusing. When I no longer find any of this amusing, I will be done with it but not before. Conduits to culture (artifacts) exist in thousands of different ways, the main one being language itself. A computer and the Internet is just one conduit among thousands. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 10:12 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] This lone eagle of which I speak must also reside on a mountain top isolated from all the rest of the world. The lone eagle does only one thing ... it stares into the ether. If you would be Great, that is what you must do. You have a computer and internet connection that works up there? Irrelevant diversion duly noted. You, your computer and your internet connection are inseparable. Until you become detached ,you are not a lone eagle ... not even a traditional hermit in accordance with a purist's strict definition. No matter what kind of spin you vainly attempt to put on all this, the reality of the situation is not altered. You live a semi-hermetic lifestyle regardless of the label you put on it. To become are lone eagle of a hermit the computer must go. So which one are you will to give up ... the label or the computer? The conundrum continues. A hermit simply prefers his own company to that of others and consequently is alone a lot. Artifacts like computers and the Internet are irrelevant. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Nov 18, 11:07*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 10:12 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] This lone eagle of which I speak must also reside on a mountain top isolated from all the rest of the world. The lone eagle does only one thing ... it stares into the ether. If you would be Great, that is what you must do. You have a computer and internet connection that works up there? Irrelevant diversion duly noted. *You, your computer and your internet connection are inseparable. *Until you become detached ,you are not a lone eagle ... not even a traditional hermit in accordance with a purist's strict definition. *No matter what kind of spin you vainly attempt to put on all this, the reality of the situation is not altered. *You live a semi-hermetic lifestyle regardless of the label you put on it. *To become are lone eagle of a hermit the computer must go. *So which one are you will to give up ... the label or the computer? * The conundrum continues. A hermit simply prefers his own company to that of others and consequently is alone a lot, BULL****!!! No matter what kind of spin you put on this, your computer and internet connection serve as your conduit of social contact of sorts, something a real, true hermit would shun completely. If your computer is as you have asserted ... stupid, unimportant and irrelevant (your adjectives), then you should have no difficulty in abandoning them and become transformed into the lone eagle (read real, true hermit) that you claim to be. If you cannot abandon your computer and internet connection, then it follows that ... 1, You are not a full fledged hermit, 2. Your computer and internet connection are, in reality, not stupid, unimportant and irrelevant, and 3. Stating that they are is what is stupid, unimportant and irrelevant ... and, that's that on that (read the bottom line). Artifacts like computers and the Internet are irrelevant. INCONGRUOUS!!! Conan the librarian ... an artifact is a man made object of cultural or historical significance. Why then would you refer to a computer as stupid, unimportant and irrelevant and then subsequently label it an artifact? The conundrum continues! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Nov 18, 11:03*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 10:07 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] Being a hermit has nothing to do with cutting yourself off from a culture, which in part is what a computer and the Internet provides. It simply means that you do not see many people and prefer to be alone. [...] Contradicting yourself again??? Am I to assume that you are now recanting your previous statement when you wrote *... Unlike JimmyMac, I was never stupid enough to think computers were important. *Well are they or are they not stupid? *That is the question and which Ed really believes is yet another. *If I am to accept the preposterous premise that a computer and the internet comprise a *conduit to culture, than that begs the question as to what was the conduit in the past prior to the invention of the computer and the internet. *A hermit shuns all form of social contact and interaction with others, so then you must not be a true hermit, sort of like being a lacto-ov-vegetarian or a pescatarian. *No matter though. *You are what you are, but the bottom line is that you will not discard the computer and internet connection and will not admit that you are unwilling and unable to do so. *You have made is abundantly clear that regardless of what you have said to the contrary, the computer and the internet are an integral part of your compromised semi- hermetic lifestyle. A computer and the Internet are NOT important, but they are amusing. When I no longer find any of this amusing, I will be done with it but not before.. Conduits to culture (artifacts) exist in thousands of different ways, the main one being language itself. A computer and the Internet is just one conduit among thousands. What is amusing is your inane incongruity. Your computer and internet connection serve as your conduit of social contact of sorts, something a real, true hermit would shun completely. If unimportant, then abandon your computer and the internet and embark upon a journey into the real domain of the hermit. I refer you to my reply in your next post in this regard. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 11:07 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] A hermit simply prefers his own company to that of others and consequently is alone a lot, BULL****!!! No matter what kind of spin you put on this, your computer and internet connection serve as your conduit of social contact of sorts, something a real, true hermit would shun completely. If your computer is as you have asserted ... stupid, unimportant and irrelevant (your adjectives), then you should have no difficulty in abandoning them and become transformed into the lone eagle (read real, true hermit) that you claim to be. If you cannot abandon your computer and internet connection, then it follows that ... 1, You are not a full fledged hermit, 2. Your computer and internet connection are, in reality, not stupid, unimportant and irrelevant, and 3. Stating that they are is what is stupid, unimportant and irrelevant ... and, that's that on that (read the bottom line). A computer is not being with people in the flesh, but only with their printed words. In other words, with an artifact. Artifacts like computers and the Internet are irrelevant. INCONGRUOUS!!! Conan the librarian ... an artifact is a man made object of cultural or historical significance. Why then would you refer to a computer as stupid, unimportant and irrelevant and then subsequently label it an artifact? The conundrum continues! An artifact is anything having to do with man - in short, a man made object. The fact remains I am not with people much. Artifacts have nothing to do with whether or not one is a hermit. If you avoid people in the flesh like I do, then you are a hermit. I live in solitude and am quite reclusive. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Nov 19, 7:26*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 11:07 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] A hermit simply prefers his own company to that of others and consequently is alone a lot, BULL****!!! *No matter what kind of spin you put on this, your computer and internet connection serve as your conduit of social contact of sorts, something a real, true hermit would shun completely. *If your computer is as you have asserted ... stupid, unimportant *and irrelevant (your adjectives), then you should have no difficulty in abandoning them and become transformed into the lone eagle (read real, true hermit) that you claim to be. *If you cannot abandon your computer and internet connection, then it follows that ... 1, You are not a full fledged hermit, 2. Your computer and internet connection are, in reality, not stupid, unimportant and irrelevant, and 3. Stating that they are is what is stupid, unimportant and irrelevant ... and, that's that on that (read the bottom line). A computer is not being with people in the flesh, but only with their printed words. In other words, with an artifact. Artifacts like computers and the Internet are irrelevant. INCONGRUOUS!!! *Conan the librarian ... an artifact is a man made object of cultural or historical significance. *Why then would you refer to a computer as stupid, unimportant and irrelevant and then subsequently label it an artifact? *The conundrum continues! An artifact is anything having to do with man - in short, a man made object. The fact remains I am not with people much. Artifacts have nothing to do with whether or not one is a hermit. If you avoid people in the flesh like I do, then you are a hermit. I live in solitude and am quite reclusive. A rose by any other name is still a rose ... contact is contact. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... BULL****!!! Quit making me laugh, you heartless fiend! No matter what kind of spin you put on this, your computer and internet connection serve as your conduit of social contact of sorts, something a real, true hermit would shun completely. i am trying to remember roanoke fondly, as my home, the one i shouldn't feel sorry for leaving mk50000 "Suspect each moment, for it is a thief, tiptoeing away with more than it brings. "--A Month of Sundays, John Updike |
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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... A hermit simply prefers his own company to that of others and consequently is alone a lot. Artifacts like computers and the Internet are irrelevant. Not a very compelling argument You don't prefer your own company to that of others. If you preferred your own then you wouldn't be here arguing with other people. The computer would be of no interest to you if it were not populated with people whom you could deride and feel superior to. In order for you to have a sense of self you need these others to compare yourself to. mk5000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "marika" Newsgroups: alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots,misc.survivalism,alt.society.mental-health,alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:54 PM Subject: OT: Joe the Plumber "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... Heads up..the entire country isnt Democrat. no not entirely democrat, entirely socialist. I don't know if you have been following this. but since you are on the internet, you should notice that the internet is socialized a government owned thing. . If it were...it would be the United Peoples Republik of Amerika....and the flag would feature a hammer and sickle you will probably see or hear stuff about this from at least some small percentage of your kids or other people's kids. The hammer and sickle are communist not socialist, I think the Usian socialists use a zig zag kind of a bolt of lightning mk5000 Whether you have a Euro or a pound in your pocket the currency will continue to be run from London. However, the London it will be run from is the London of the international monetary markets and not a group of politicians or Bank of England grandees. In other words, no, don't vote Tory. No government has any meaningful control of the currency."--lattara |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... What is amusing is your inane incongruity. Your computer and internet connection serve as your conduit of social contact of sorts, something a real, true hermit would shun completely. If unimportant, then abandon your computer and the internet and embark upon a journey into the real domain of the hermit. I refer you to my reply in your next post in this regard. =========== Lolcat mk5000 "For woman is yin, the darkness within, where untempered passions lie. And man is yang, bright truth lighting our minds." --Amy Tan, Joy Luck CLub |
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"marika" wrote in message ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE MESSAGE TO WHICH HE IS RESPONDING. WHAT AN IDIOT! "JimmyMac" wrote in message ... What is amusing is your inane incongruity. Your computer and internet connection serve as your conduit of social contact of sorts, something a real, true hermit would shun completely. If unimportant, then abandon your computer and the internet and embark upon a journey into the real domain of the hermit. I refer you to my reply in your next post in this regard. JimmyMac does not claim to be a hermit like me. Au contraire, he claims to be the most sociable of men even though he can't ever seem to get along with anybody. I suspect only his two poor old longsuffering hound dogs can stand him. His wife is going to divorce him once she finds out what he is has been up to on Usenet. Most normal women hate stalkers. In the off chance your remark above was referring to Ed Dolan the Great, the only salient point is your "of sorts", but that does not really cover it. There is no social contact going on here at all. I am merely using others to think aloud and in public to myself. Even Tom Sherman does not engage me on a personal level. How much less so JimmyMac! Nope, sorry, but all I am doing is talking to myself. That is what hermits do after all! You are welcome to listen, but never think for a moment that this detracts from my solitary hermitage. Yea, the dogs bark in the night, but the caravan moves on. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
"marika" wrote in message ... "Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... A hermit simply prefers his own company to that of others and consequently is alone a lot. Artifacts like computers and the Internet are irrelevant. Not a very compelling argument You don't prefer your own company to that of others. If you preferred your own then you wouldn't be here arguing with other people. The computer would be of no interest to you if it were not populated with people whom you could deride and feel superior to. In order for you to have a sense of self you need these others to compare yourself to. Poor Marika does not understand anything. Does Tom Sherman exist? Does JimmyMac exist? Does Marika exist? Not to me they don't. They are merely printed words that I read on a Usenet newsgroup. The real danger for us hermits is not the non-existence of others, but of our own non-existence. It seems the sense of my own reality becomes more ephemeral with each passing year. It cannot be healthy to be always talking to only oneself, so that is why I burden the rest of you with my mutterings. How else will I know if I exist? Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
"Edward Dolan" wrote in message news:CeidnVeSQPq7BLTUnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@prairiewave. com... JimmyMac does not claim to be a hermit like me. Au contraire, he claims to be the most sociable of men even though he can't ever seem to get along with anybody. I suspect only his two poor old longsuffering hound dogs can stand him. His wife is going to divorce him once she finds out what he is has been up to on Usenet. Most normal women hate stalkers. In the off chance your remark above was referring to Ed Dolan the Great, the only salient point is your "of sorts", but that does not really cover it. There is no social contact going on here at all. I am merely using others to think aloud and in public to myself. Even Tom Sherman does not engage me on a personal level. How much less so JimmyMac! Nope, sorry, but all I am doing is talking to myself. That is what hermits do after all! You are welcome to listen, but never think for a moment that this detracts from my solitary hermitage. Yea, the dogs bark in the night, but the caravan moves on. Sure Ed when you stop feeling compelled to stop posting responses in usenet, then I'll believe you mk5000 "Religiously-motivated 'vir*tu*ous' be*hav*iour has likely played a vi*tal so*cial role through*out his*to*ry. One rea*son we now have large, co*op*er*a*tive so*ci*eties may be that some as*pects of re*li*gion - such as out*sourc*ing costly so*cial polic*ing du*ties to all-pow*er*ful Gods - made so*ci*eties work more co*op*er*a*tively in the past."--Azim Shar*iff |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
"marika" wrote in message ... "Edward Dolan" wrote in message news:CeidnVeSQPq7BLTUnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@prairiewave. com... JimmyMac does not claim to be a hermit like me. Au contraire, he claims to be the most sociable of men even though he can't ever seem to get along with anybody. I suspect only his two poor old longsuffering hound dogs can stand him. His wife is going to divorce him once she finds out what he is has been up to on Usenet. Most normal women hate stalkers. In the off chance your remark above was referring to Ed Dolan the Great, the only salient point is your "of sorts", but that does not really cover it. There is no social contact going on here at all. I am merely using others to think aloud and in public to myself. Even Tom Sherman does not engage me on a personal level. How much less so JimmyMac! Nope, sorry, but all I am doing is talking to myself. That is what hermits do after all! You are welcome to listen, but never think for a moment that this detracts from my solitary hermitage. Yea, the dogs bark in the night, but the caravan moves on. Sure Ed when you stop feeling compelled to stop posting responses in usenet, then I'll believe you "Religiously-motivated 'vir*tu*ous' be*hav*iour has likely played a vi*tal so*cial role through*out his*to*ry. One rea*son we now have large, co*op*er*a*tive so*ci*eties may be that some as*pects of re*li*gion - such as out*sourc*ing costly so*cial polic*ing du*ties to all-pow*er*ful Gods - made so*ci*eties work more co*op*er*a*tively in the past."--Azim Shar*iff God is dead, or hadn't you heard? He died in the 20th century. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
On Nov 23, 11:01*am, "marika" wrote:
"Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... A hermit simply prefers his own company to that of others and consequently is alone a lot. Artifacts like computers and the Internet are irrelevant. |
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On Nov 23, 11:56*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"marika" wrote in message ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE MESSAGE TO WHICH HE IS RESPONDING. WHAT AN IDIOT! "JimmyMac" wrote in message .... What is amusing is your inane incongruity. *Your computer and internet connection serve as your conduit of social contact of sorts, something a real, true hermit would shun completely. *If unimportant, then abandon your computer and the internet and embark upon a journey into the real domain of the hermit. *I refer you to my reply in your next post in this regard. JimmyMac does not claim to be a hermit like me. Au contraire, he claims to be the most sociable of men even though he can't ever seem to get along with anybody. I suspect only his two poor old longsuffering hound dogs can stand him. His wife is going to divorce him once she finds out what he is has been up to on Usenet. Most normal women hate stalkers. Same old masticated and regurgitated errant opinion state as fact. In the off chance your remark above was referring to Ed Dolan the Great, the only salient point is your "of sorts", but that does not really cover it. There is no social contact going on here at all. I am merely using others to think aloud and in public to myself. Even Tom Sherman does not engage me on a personal level. How much less so JimmyMac! Nope, sorry, but all I am doing is talking to myself. That is what hermits do after all! You are welcome to listen, but never think for a moment that this detracts from my solitary hermitage. Yea, the dogs bark in the night, but the caravan moves on. Why don't you hop on that caravan and move on ? Dolan mistakenly confuses physical with social. Social contact does not presuppose the physical. In other words physical contact is not a prerequisite for social contact. That much should be obvious to one who asserts that he is a genius. Readers note the operative word "using" and draw your own conclusions regarding how Dolan regards the readership. Also take note of the blatant fallacy that Dolan is merely thinking aloud publicly, but to himself. If that sounds incongruous, it should. Since when does thinking to oneself requrie a public audience and why should a computer and internet connection be required? The conundrum continues. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Nov 23, 12:15*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"marika" wrote in message ... "Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... A hermit simply prefers his own company to that of others and consequently is alone a lot. Artifacts like computers and the Internet are irrelevant. |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 23, 11:56 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] In the off chance your remark above was referring to Ed Dolan the Great, the only salient point is your "of sorts", but that does not really cover it. There is no social contact going on here at all. I am merely using others to think aloud and in public to myself. Even Tom Sherman does not engage me on a personal level. How much less so JimmyMac! Nope, sorry, but all I am doing is talking to myself. That is what hermits do after all! You are welcome to listen, but never think for a moment that this detracts from my solitary hermitage. Yea, the dogs bark in the night, but the caravan moves on. Why don't you hop on that caravan and move on ? Dolan mistakenly confuses physical with social. Social contact does not presuppose the physical. In other words physical contact is not a prerequisite for social contact. That much should be obvious to one who asserts that he is a genius. Readers note the operative word "using" and draw your own conclusions regarding how Dolan regards the readership. Also take note of the blatant fallacy that Dolan is merely thinking aloud publicly, but to himself. If that sounds incongruous, it should. Since when does thinking to oneself requrie a public audience and why should a computer and internet connection be required? The conundrum continues. JimmyMac does not understand what it is to be a hermit. Apparently, it is too simple a word for him. Anyone who lives in solitude is a hermit. Ed Dolan lives in solitude. Therefore, Ed Dolan is a hermit. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 23, 12:15 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: "marika" wrote in message ... "Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... A hermit simply prefers his own company to that of others and consequently is alone a lot. Artifacts like computers and the Internet are irrelevant. Not a very compelling argument You don't prefer your own company to that of others. If you preferred your own then you wouldn't be here arguing with other people. The computer would be of no interest to you if it were not populated with people whom you could deride and feel superior to. In order for you to have a sense of self you need these others to compare yourself to. Poor Marika does not understand anything. Does Tom Sherman exist? Does JimmyMac exist? Does Marika exist? Not to me they don't. They are merely printed words that I read on a Usenet newsgroup. The real danger for us hermits is not the non-existence of others, but of our own non-existence. It seems the sense of my own reality becomes more ephemeral with each passing year. It cannot be healthy to be always talking to only oneself, so that is why I burden the rest of you with my mutterings. How else will I know if I exist? The operational word here is BURDEN!!! How else will you know if you exist. Take leave of here and with the each passing yer we can take turns sending you Thank You cards on your birthday. DEAL??? JimmyMac as a graduate of a Jesuit institution (Loyola College) should know that psychology without philosophy is a waste of time. I am here to give all of you dumbbells a little philosophy so you won't go out of the world as ignorant as you came into it. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Nov 23, 11:01 am, "marika" wrote: [...] The hammer and sickle are communist not socialist, I think the Usian socialists use a zig zag kind of a bolt of lightning What difference did it make whether international or national socialism? Hitler and Stalin both represented the culmination of far left (progressive) European political movements. For some reason, American leftist idiots (progressives) did not like Hitlerism, but they loved Stalinism. Go figure! [...] Right on ... you go girl ;^) Marika ... a girl? Well, you may be right about that. She is certainly dumb enough to be a female. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
"Edward Dolan" wrote in message news:SMGdnTo9I6nVm7HUnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@prairiewave. com... JimmyMac as a graduate of a Jesuit institution (Loyola College) should know that psychology without philosophy is a waste of time. I am here to give all of you dumbbells a little philosophy so you won't go out of the world as ignorant as you came into it. Loved this. because it contained resembled a lesson in philosophy or anything else for that matter In any event the study of philosophy is for little poofy gurlz mk5000 "I am: Kimberly Keiko Cameron (aka Skim) My best friend: Lisa Soor My Cat: Sumo Interests: Wicca, tarot cards, astrology (me=Aquarius= very unpredictable), philosophy Favorite color: black ^H^H^H^H^H red"--Skim, Mariko Tamaki |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
"marika" wrote in message ... "Edward Dolan" wrote in message news:Y66dnSzCvclsPbTUnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@prairiewave. com... God is dead, or hadn't you heard? He died in the 20th century. God is a hermit and has been since the 20th century The God of the Christians is Three Persons in One. Therefore, He is not a hermit. THis is why you haven't been able to communicate with him he wants no part of you and his dedication to the anchorite life is true unlike yours God communes with His Son and the Holy Ghost all the time. Jeez, do I have to explain EVERYTHING to you! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
"marika" wrote in message ... "JimmyMac" wrote in message ... Edward Dolan wrote: Poor Marika does not understand anything. Does Tom Sherman exist? Does JimmyMac exist? Does Marika exist? Not to me they don't. They are merely printed words that I read on a Usenet newsgroup. The real danger for us hermits is not the non-existence of others, but of our own non-existence. It seems the sense of my own reality becomes more ephemeral with each passing year. It cannot be healthy to be always talking to only oneself, so that is why I burden the rest of you with my mutterings. How else will I know if I exist? The operational word here is BURDEN!!! How else will you know if you exist. Take leave of here and with the each passing yer we can take turns sending you Thank You cards on your birthday. DEAL??? Ed has a crush on me. Get some smarts and who knows? But if there's one thing I don't want from him is thinking I exist You only exist ever so briefly as a phantom when I read your messages on Usenet. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
"marika" wrote in message ... The hammer and sickle are communist not socialist, I think the Usian socialists use a zig zag kind of a bolt of lightning Edward Dolan wrote: What difference did it make whether international or national socialism? Hitler and Stalin both represented the culmination of far left (progressive) European political movements. For some reason, American leftist idiots (progressives) did not like Hitlerism, but they loved Stalinism. Go figure! we're talking trademarks, not map boundaries I am saying they were one and the same. They were both far left ideologies bent on mass murder. pay attention You do not have brains enough to edit my words. Either leave them in full or go **** yourself! As for what you are talking about, who the hell ever knows. You seem to have a constipation of the mind. It is better to say a bit too much than a bit to little. Follow my example and you will never go wrong. Why not make yourself useful and tell us what this lester-mosley **** is all about? Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
"marika" wrote in message ... "Edward Dolan" wrote in message news:SMGdnTo9I6nVm7HUnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@prairiewave. com... JimmyMac as a graduate of a Jesuit institution (Loyola College) should know that psychology without philosophy is a waste of time. I am here to give all of you dumbbells a little philosophy so you won't go out of the world as ignorant as you came into it. Loved this. because it contained resembled a lesson in philosophy or anything else for that matter In any event the study of philosophy is for little poofy gurlz Poor Marika couldn't think her way out of a paper bag let alone give us a definition of philosophy. The most annoying thing about her though is her sloppy writing, which may well result from her sloppy thinking. If you don't have some rigor, you have got nothing but squishy-squashy, ever the downfall of all women. She needs to find a sewing circle where she can cackle like a hen with all the other hens. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Edward Dolan wrote:
The God of the Christians is Three Persons in One. Therefore, He is not a hermit.[...] See http://www.thebricktestament.com/books/holy_trinity.html. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the precipitate. |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
"Edward Dolan" wrote in message news:1d6dncemrJOzJbHUnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@prairiewave. com... Poor Marika couldn't think her way out of a paper bag let alone give us a definition of philosophy. The most annoying thing about her though is her sloppy writing, which may well result from her sloppy thinking. If you don't have some rigor, you have got nothing but squishy-squashy, ever the downfall of all women. She needs to find a sewing circle where she can cackle like a hen with all the other hens. Ooo burn.... I bet he imagines me stitching a nice tight miniskirt too mk5000 "but it was no secret Andre the Giant had a surveillance apartment too : 3A in 14 Dumont, the Apartment housing couldn't rent out because six children and their grandmother had died in a fire there a year before. Andre was obsessed with the dope crew that worked the side of the Dumont projects, unlike the Fury, who liked hitting the Weehawken side, Strike's side. But Andre was a free-range knocko; he could show up anywhere, anytime, and he could see the benches just fine from Dumont"--Clockers, Richard Price |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
"Edward Dolan" wrote in message news:CtidnR8t0b1wN7HUnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@prairiewave. com... Ed has a crush on me. Get some smarts and who knows? wait, if I get SMARTS you will have a crush on me? There's a better chance of this. OOOOO boy, it's time to dumb down But if there's one thing I don't want from him is thinking I exist You only exist ever so briefly as a phantom when I read your messages on Usenet. see my previous statement above for clarification about need for you to perceive I exist mk5000 "We came from Bethlehem, Georgia, bearing Betty Crocker cake mixes into the jungle," ==Barbara Kingsolver, Poisonwood Bible |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
"marika" wrote in message ... "Edward Dolan" wrote in message news:1d6dncemrJOzJbHUnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@prairiewave. com... Poor Marika couldn't think her way out of a paper bag let alone give us a definition of philosophy. The most annoying thing about her though is her sloppy writing, which may well result from her sloppy thinking. If you don't have some rigor, you have got nothing but squishy-squashy, ever the downfall of all women. She needs to find a sewing circle where she can cackle like a hen with all the other hens. Ooo burn.... I bet he imagines me stitching a nice tight miniskirt too I imagine you being raped by a big black Negro. That would cure you forever of your idiotic liberal fantasies - you god damn ****ing female bitch! And put a period at the end of your sentences - you freaking moron! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
The Dilemma of Tom Sherman
"Edward Dolan" wrote in message news:orSdnW6Jzd6hM7HUnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@prairiewave. com... I am saying they were one and the same. no one cares what you are saying. That's not what we were talking about They were both far left ideologies bent on mass murder. pay attention You do not have brains enough to edit my words. and yet I possess a pointing device and a finger Either leave them in full or go **** yourself! Can I do both. Why does it have to be in the alternative. As for what you are talking about, who the hell ever knows. Ed,, your a retard, you could never understand what I was talking about You seem to have a constipation of the mind. It's yet somehow better than the condition you suffer from, which is no mind whatsoever, which is what I generally pay, vis a vis you, except when totally bored and need some amusement from the circus freak It is better to say a bit too much than a bit to little. Follow my example and you will never go wrong. attacking wildly incorrectly. Stalking mercilessly? which one of the several other miscreant and malfeasant deeds do you want me to emulate? There's just too much bad example to decide which to folow net Why not make yourself useful and tell us what this lester-mosley **** is all about? I'll say what I have said a billion times. He's a young man who lives in Roanoke. what else would you like to know. mk5000 http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...judson_190.jpg |
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