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Frank Krygowski[_4_] January 6th 19 04:17 PM

90 year old doper caught
 
Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


--
- Frank Krygowski

Sir Ridesalot January 6th 19 04:29 PM

90 year old doper caught
 
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:17:15 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


--
- Frank Krygowski


It's not how you play the game that counts; it's whether you win or lose. At least it is according to a lot of athletes. It also applies to a lot of other professions too.

Cheers

Ralph Barone[_4_] January 6th 19 07:12 PM

90 year old doper caught
 
Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:17:15 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


--
- Frank Krygowski


It's not how you play the game that counts; it's whether you win or lose.
At least it is according to a lot of athletes. It also applies to a lot
of other professions too.

Cheers


I haven't read much about this story, but he apparently passed a drug test
the day before the race, but then failed afterwards, for a substance that
takes much longer than days to have an effect. It could be a false
positive, or perhaps his alibi is true.


John B. Slocomb January 6th 19 11:10 PM

90 year old doper caught
 
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 11:17:08 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


Lets be honest. It wasn't only Lance that was using "medicine" to
improve his ability, it was just about every one of the top riders of
that era. Look at the record of how many were caught and penalized.
Eddy Merckx, for example, tested positive in 1969, 1973 and 1977.
Fausto Coppi stated openly, on a television interview, that he took "
la bomba" - amphetamine. Miguel Induráin was never caught taking
drugs, except for Salbutamol, but former Festina coach Antonie Vayer
has cast doubt on Induráin's abilities, claiming only "mutants" could
have performed at the level he did.
--

Cheers,

John B.

John B. Slocomb January 6th 19 11:14 PM

90 year old doper caught
 
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 08:29:02 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:17:15 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


--
- Frank Krygowski


It's not how you play the game that counts; it's whether you win or lose. At least it is according to a lot of athletes. It also applies to a lot of other professions too.


Doping in athletics dates back to the original Greek Olympics.
--

Cheers,

John B.

Ralph Barone[_4_] January 6th 19 11:40 PM

90 year old doper caught
 
John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 08:29:02 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:17:15 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


--
- Frank Krygowski


It's not how you play the game that counts; it's whether you win or
lose. At least it is according to a lot of athletes. It also applies to
a lot of other professions too.


Doping in athletics dates back to the original Greek Olympics.
--

Cheers,

John B.


Here's an interesting book to read, which deals with doping in sports.

https://www.velopress.com/books/spitting-in-the-soup/


Sir Ridesalot January 7th 19 12:17 AM

90 year old doper caught
 
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 6:10:13 PM UTC-5, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 11:17:08 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


Lets be honest. It wasn't only Lance that was using "medicine" to
improve his ability, it was just about every one of the top riders of
that era. Look at the record of how many were caught and penalized.
Eddy Merckx, for example, tested positive in 1969, 1973 and 1977.
Fausto Coppi stated openly, on a television interview, that he took "
la bomba" - amphetamine. Miguel IndurĂ¡in was never caught taking
drugs, except for Salbutamol, but former Festina coach Antonie Vayer
has cast doubt on IndurĂ¡in's abilities, claiming only "mutants" could
have performed at the level he did.
--

Cheers,

John B.


I detest Lance Armstrong - not for his doping or even his denying it, but for his systematic attacks and attempts to destroy the credibility or finances of those who accused him of doping. That's what sets him apart from the other dopers = his vengeful attacks on those who tried to out him.

Cheers

Sir Ridesalot January 7th 19 12:29 AM

90 year old doper caught
 
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 7:17:30 PM UTC-5, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 6:10:13 PM UTC-5, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 11:17:08 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


Lets be honest. It wasn't only Lance that was using "medicine" to
improve his ability, it was just about every one of the top riders of
that era. Look at the record of how many were caught and penalized.
Eddy Merckx, for example, tested positive in 1969, 1973 and 1977.
Fausto Coppi stated openly, on a television interview, that he took "
la bomba" - amphetamine. Miguel IndurĂ¡in was never caught taking
drugs, except for Salbutamol, but former Festina coach Antonie Vayer
has cast doubt on IndurĂ¡in's abilities, claiming only "mutants" could
have performed at the level he did.
--

Cheers,

John B.


I detest Lance Armstrong - not for his doping or even his denying it, but for his systematic attacks and attempts to destroy the credibility or finances of those who accused him of doping. That's what sets him apart from the other dopers = his vengeful attacks on those who tried to out him.

Cheers


Forgot to give a link to an article that explains a lot of what Lance did to keep people quiet about him doping.

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/m...icle-1.1188512

Frank Krygowski[_4_] January 7th 19 01:42 AM

90 year old doper caught
 
On 1/6/2019 7:17 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 6:10:13 PM UTC-5, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 11:17:08 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


Lets be honest. It wasn't only Lance that was using "medicine" to
improve his ability, it was just about every one of the top riders of
that era. Look at the record of how many were caught and penalized.
Eddy Merckx, for example, tested positive in 1969, 1973 and 1977.
Fausto Coppi stated openly, on a television interview, that he took "
la bomba" - amphetamine. Miguel IndurĂ¡in was never caught taking
drugs, except for Salbutamol, but former Festina coach Antonie Vayer
has cast doubt on IndurĂ¡in's abilities, claiming only "mutants" could
have performed at the level he did.
--

Cheers,

John B.


I detest Lance Armstrong - not for his doping or even his denying it, but for his systematic attacks and attempts to destroy the credibility or finances of those who accused him of doping. That's what sets him apart from the other dopers = his vengeful attacks on those who tried to out him.


+1

I have a friend who met Lance way, way back and said "He's such a nice guy!"

I didn't disagree to his face, but I remember doubting that from the start.



--
- Frank Krygowski

Frank Krygowski[_4_] January 7th 19 01:56 AM

90 year old doper caught
 
On 1/6/2019 6:40 PM, Ralph Barone wrote:
John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 08:29:02 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:17:15 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


--
- Frank Krygowski

It's not how you play the game that counts; it's whether you win or
lose. At least it is according to a lot of athletes. It also applies to
a lot of other professions too.


Doping in athletics dates back to the original Greek Olympics.
--

Cheers,

John B.


Here's an interesting book to read, which deals with doping in sports.

https://www.velopress.com/books/spitting-in-the-soup/


Actually, the issue is even bigger than sports. Does anyone think
there's any limit to the things they will give to fighter pilots or
other combatants to give them an edge?

And to prevent the shooting from starting, I've often wondered what
diplomats and politicians juice up on for cross-the-water trips. I know
that whenever I've gone to Europe, I've been pretty dazed for two days.
But someone like a Secretary of State is expected to jet over to Belgium
or wherever and deal effectively with rival diplomats who have shifted
their body clocks by one hour or less.

Might the Yalta Conference have gone differently if it was held in Boston?
--
- Frank Krygowski


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