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Qui si parla Campagnolo January 3rd 05 02:24 PM

matt- How can I buy a bunch of the smallest size patches? BRBR

Any decent LBS has Rema patches, we do as do we have tubes of glue.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

Kenny January 3rd 05 03:32 PM

I've heard that you can make patches out of old inner tubes. I've been
waiting for my first box of patches to be used up before trying this
option. I use a pair of scissors and cut the patch in half before
patching the tube on my road bike.


Paul Kopit January 3rd 05 06:26 PM

On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 00:15:25 GMT, Mark Janeba
wrote:


As for "glue" or vulcanizing fluid - I tried buying that in bulk, and it
definitely did NOT have shelf life.


I buy the stuff in Pep Boys and store the resealed container in the
refrigerator. It took me over 3 years to use the first can. I did
add a little solvent to it at some point. When it does thicken,
it's decent glue to put shipping labels on.

Paul Kopit January 3rd 05 06:31 PM

On 2 Jan 2005 16:34:39 -0800, wrote:

The hardest part for me is getting the patch centered. I've
developed a method to do that, but it takes too long. And yes I use
talcum powder, despite highly regarded advice to the contrary.


After putting the wet glue on, pump the tire and a white mark will
appear where the air is coming out.

Put the tip of a toothpick into the hole through the sanding, gluing
and drying. Remove the tip as you put the patch on.

I think that talcum powder is traditional more than functional. Most
people use use baby powder instead of talcum. The fragrance contains
oil and makes it more difficult to get a good surface to put glue on
when needed.

Jeff Loomis January 3rd 05 07:17 PM

Matt O'Toole wrote:

awhile, but smaller patches would be better. Can someone get these

in bulk, and

At $0.50 a patch they still are not the cheapest, but rivendell sells a
kit with 10 "dime sized" patches for $5. Maybe some LBSs have the
Velox patches they put in there. They are definitely smaller than the
smallest Rema ones.

http://tinyurl.com/3k7f4

This place in the UK sells what looks to be the same patches for 3.50
pounds for 100. At under 7 cents each that might even be worth the
overseas shipping.

http://tinyurl.com/3kmgk

-Jeff


MikeYankee January 3rd 05 07:40 PM

I've heard that you can make patches out of old inner tubes

Yes, indeed. I did this once when I ran out of patches and spare tubes, and it
got me home OK. I sanded the gluing surface, applied glue, and let it dry;
did same on punctured tube.

No leaks, but I don't know how long it would have lasted because I peeled it
off (with some difficulty) and replaced it with a Rema patch.


Mike Yankee

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John Everett January 3rd 05 08:10 PM

On 2 Jan 2005 13:24:57 -0800, wrote:

Hi Matt
Bike tools Etc sells 100 small Ream for a very reasonable price ~$15.


Unfortunately for those of us who ride road bikes with narrow tires,
they only carry Rema Part # F1-P, the 25mm (1") patches, and F2-Ps,
the 2" oval patches. These are too wide for the tubes we generally
use. I prefer Rema's F0-P, which is a box of 100, 16mm patches; but
these are generally hard to find.

Even Third Hand/Loose Tools doesn't carry the smaller patches. A web
search has turned up the F0-P at Alfred E. Bike, and Air Bomb; both
for around $20. I've never dealt with either so can't advise one way
or the other.


jeverett3ATearthlinkDOTnet
http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3

MSA January 3rd 05 09:26 PM

In article , jeverett3
@earthlink.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.net says...
On 2 Jan 2005 13:24:57 -0800, wrote:

Hi Matt
Bike tools Etc sells 100 small Ream for a very reasonable price ~$15.


Unfortunately for those of us who ride road bikes with narrow tires,
they only carry Rema Part # F1-P, the 25mm (1") patches, and F2-Ps,
the 2" oval patches. These are too wide for the tubes we generally
use. I prefer Rema's F0-P, which is a box of 100, 16mm patches; but
these are generally hard to find.

Even Third Hand/Loose Tools doesn't carry the smaller patches. A web
search has turned up the F0-P at Alfred E. Bike, and Air Bomb; both
for around $20. I've never dealt with either so can't advise one way
or the other.


jeverett3ATearthlinkDOTnet
http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3


100 15mm patches here, I've been using them for years. UK seller mind
you but he does ship abroad. 100 for £3.65 including shipping to non EU
countries.

http://tinyurl.com/2dqpz


--
Mark (MSA)
______________________________________________
Remember, half the people you know are below average

[email protected] January 3rd 05 11:48 PM


Werehatrack wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 15:47:42 -0500, "Matt O'Toole"
wrote:

How can I buy a bunch of the smallest size patches? Most patch kits

come with a
bunch of big ones, but only two or four small ones. The larger ones

don't fit
on road tubes without wrapping around them, so it's hard to get a

good bond all
the way around, to keep the edges from peeling. I haven't had one

fail in
awhile, but smaller patches would be better. Can someone get these

in bulk, and
sell me a bunch? I'm sick of paying $4.00 for a patch kit with 2

good patches
in it, and a bunch of crap I'll never use.


I just buy the large package of them from the auto parts store and

cut
the larger ones into smaller pieces. The smaller ones in the kit
(about one inch square) are near to ideal for the majority of my
patching, but even they are a tad large on a road tube.


I agree. I get my big cardboard tube of patches from Wal-Mart. About
$2.50. After cutting all of the big patches into the 1"x1" square
size, I have over 100 patches. I've never bothered to trim them
smaller but I suppose a compulsive person could do this. And the
various auto parts stores sell big tubes of patch glue for under $1.
If the big tube of patch glue in the Wal-Mart patch kit runs out after
5 years.

Reading all of these posts about paying $15 or more for a box of 100
REMA patches specially ordered from the LBS has provided the chuckle
for the day.


Tom Sherman January 4th 05 02:21 AM

Kenny wrote:

I've heard that you can make patches out of old inner tubes. I've been
waiting for my first box of patches to be used up before trying this
option. I use a pair of scissors and cut the patch in half before
patching the tube on my road bike.


"Patches can be made from tube material but this must be done carefully
following the same procedure as preparing the tube. However, butyl tube
material, unlike commercial patches, is impervious to rubber cement
solvents and will not cure if the glue on the tube and patch is not
completely dry. This presents a substantial problem." - Jobst Brandt [1]

[1] http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/patching.html.

--
Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island



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