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Mr Pounder Esquire August 14th 17 05:15 PM

Cyclist who killed pedestrian in high speed crash said people had 'zero respect' for those on bikes, court hears
 
Mr Alliston had been riding a fixed wheel track bicycle with no front brake,
which is illegal on British roads.

He allegedly shouted to her to "get out of the way" twice before their heads
smashed together.

What an arrogant ****** this piece of **** really is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ople-had-zero/



MrCheerful August 14th 17 09:03 PM

Cyclist who killed pedestrian in high speed crash said people had'zero respect' for those on bikes, court hears
 
On 14/08/2017 17:15, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Mr Alliston had been riding a fixed wheel track bicycle with no front brake,
which is illegal on British roads.

He allegedly shouted to her to "get out of the way" twice before their heads
smashed together.

What an arrogant ****** this piece of **** really is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ople-had-zero/



By his own admission he had 60 feet (at least) to stop, slow down or
swerve, before hitting her. Remarkable that he stayed for the Police,
perhaps he was stunned. How he can be denying manslaughter is beyond
explanation, he caused her death, regardless of any other factors.

Simon Jester August 14th 17 09:25 PM

Cyclist who killed pedestrian in high speed crash said people had'zero respect' for those on bikes, court hears
 
On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 9:04:02 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
On 14/08/2017 17:15, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Mr Alliston had been riding a fixed wheel track bicycle with no front brake,
which is illegal on British roads.

He allegedly shouted to her to "get out of the way" twice before their heads
smashed together.

What an arrogant ****** this piece of **** really is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ople-had-zero/



By his own admission he had 60 feet (at least) to stop, slow down or
swerve, before hitting her. Remarkable that he stayed for the Police,
perhaps he was stunned. How he can be denying manslaughter is beyond
explanation, he caused her death, regardless of any other factors.


Did you or did you not claim it takes 37 metres to stop a bicycle from 20mph?


jnugent August 14th 17 11:11 PM

Cyclist who killed pedestrian in high speed crash said people had'zero respect' for those on bikes, court hears
 
On 14/08/2017 21:25, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 9:04:02 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
On 14/08/2017 17:15, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Mr Alliston had been riding a fixed wheel track bicycle with no front brake,
which is illegal on British roads.

He allegedly shouted to her to "get out of the way" twice before their heads
smashed together.

What an arrogant ****** this piece of **** really is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ople-had-zero/



By his own admission he had 60 feet (at least) to stop, slow down or
swerve, before hitting her. Remarkable that he stayed for the Police,
perhaps he was stunned. How he can be denying manslaughter is beyond
explanation, he caused her death, regardless of any other factors.


Did you or did you not claim it takes 37 metres to stop a bicycle from 20mph?


Does it take thirty seven meters to slow down or change direction?

jnugent August 14th 17 11:31 PM

Cyclist who killed pedestrian in high speed crash said people had'zero respect' for those on bikes, court hears
 
On 14/08/2017 23:11, JNugent wrote:
On 14/08/2017 21:25, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 9:04:02 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
On 14/08/2017 17:15, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Mr Alliston had been riding a fixed wheel track bicycle with no
front brake,
which is illegal on British roads.

He allegedly shouted to her to "get out of the way" twice before
their heads
smashed together.

What an arrogant ****** this piece of **** really is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ople-had-zero/




By his own admission he had 60 feet (at least) to stop, slow down or
swerve, before hitting her. Remarkable that he stayed for the Police,
perhaps he was stunned. How he can be denying manslaughter is beyond
explanation, he caused her death, regardless of any other factors.


Did you or did you not claim it takes 37 metres to stop a bicycle from
20mph?


Does it take thirty seven meters to slow down or change direction?


ERRATUM:

metres


Peter Keller[_3_] August 15th 17 09:55 AM

Cyclist who killed pedestrian in high speed crash said people had'zero respect' for those on bikes, court hears
 
On 14.08.2017 18:15, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Mr Alliston had been riding a fixed wheel track bicycle with no front brake,
which is illegal on British roads.

He allegedly shouted to her to "get out of the way" twice before their heads
smashed together.

What an arrogant ****** this piece of **** really is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ople-had-zero/


Totally agree.
It is people like him who give bicyclists a bad name, including those
who stop at red lights, let pedestrians go first at pedestrian
crossings, don't ride on footpaths except at low speed (max 5mph) for
safety reasons, etc ---

Peter Keller[_3_] August 15th 17 09:55 AM

Cyclist who killed pedestrian in high speed crash said people had'zero respect' for those on bikes, court hears
 
On 14.08.2017 22:25, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 9:04:02 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
On 14/08/2017 17:15, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Mr Alliston had been riding a fixed wheel track bicycle with no front brake,
which is illegal on British roads.

He allegedly shouted to her to "get out of the way" twice before their heads
smashed together.

What an arrogant ****** this piece of **** really is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ople-had-zero/



By his own admission he had 60 feet (at least) to stop, slow down or
swerve, before hitting her. Remarkable that he stayed for the Police,
perhaps he was stunned. How he can be denying manslaughter is beyond
explanation, he caused her death, regardless of any other factors.


Did you or did you not claim it takes 37 metres to stop a bicycle from 20mph?

The bike had no front brake.

Judith[_4_] August 15th 17 12:45 PM

Cyclist who killed pedestrian in high speed crash said people had 'zero respect' for those on bikes, court hears
 
On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 17:15:35 +0100, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

Mr Alliston had been riding a fixed wheel track bicycle with no front brake,
which is illegal on British roads.

He allegedly shouted to her to "get out of the way" twice before their heads
smashed together.

What an arrogant ****** this piece of **** really is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ople-had-zero/



Now come on : he was only doing twenty miles an hour : and we know that the
average cyclist can stop in a shorter distance than a car at that speed.

I think the accident came about because the pedestrian was not paying enough
attention and did not know that cyclists always have the right of way.

Simon Jester August 15th 17 05:43 PM

Cyclist who killed pedestrian in high speed crash said people had'zero respect' for those on bikes, court hears
 
On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 11:11:53 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 14/08/2017 21:25, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 9:04:02 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
On 14/08/2017 17:15, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Mr Alliston had been riding a fixed wheel track bicycle with no front brake,
which is illegal on British roads.

He allegedly shouted to her to "get out of the way" twice before their heads
smashed together.

What an arrogant ****** this piece of **** really is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ople-had-zero/



By his own admission he had 60 feet (at least) to stop, slow down or
swerve, before hitting her. Remarkable that he stayed for the Police,
perhaps he was stunned. How he can be denying manslaughter is beyond
explanation, he caused her death, regardless of any other factors.


Did you or did you not claim it takes 37 metres to stop a bicycle from 20mph?


Does it take thirty seven meters to slow down or change direction?


Ask the 'experts' [1] who claim it takes a bicycle exactly 37 metres to stop from 20mph in all circumstances.

[1] You will have to ask Mr Friendless who these 'experts' are.



Simon Jester August 15th 17 05:45 PM

Cyclist who killed pedestrian in high speed crash said people had'zero respect' for those on bikes, court hears
 
On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 5:15:52 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Mr Alliston had been riding a fixed wheel track bicycle with no front brake,
which is illegal on British roads.

He allegedly shouted to her to "get out of the way" twice before their heads
smashed together.

What an arrogant ****** this piece of **** really is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ople-had-zero/


Was the pedestrian wearing a helmet?
If not, why not?


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