Your Bike is Obsolete
 

https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/11/pat...train-updates/

Peek into the future, where everything you know is wrong.
--
Andrew Muzi
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Your Bike is Obsolete
 

On Thursday, 14 November 2019 13:49:54 UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/11/pat...train-updates/

Peek into the future, where everything you know is wrong.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Looks like a move to totally proprietary systems with no ability to mix with components from other systems.

I think I'll stick with what i have.

I wonder what bicyclists thought all those years ago when companies went from those big pitch chains to derailleurs or again when companies like Campagnolo dropped their rod shifters from the seat tube? At least those changes were real advances whereas much of what we see here are apparently smaller advances and perhaps not even needed or wanted by consumers.

Cheers

Your Bike is Obsolete
 

On 11/14/2019 1:49 PM, AMuzi wrote:
https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/11/pat...train-updates/


Peek into the future, where everything you know is wrong.

Rats. I hate having to sell all my bikes and buy new ones every time
this happens.

--
- Frank Krygowski

Your Bike is Obsolete
 

On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 1:49:54 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/11/pat...train-updates/

Peek into the future, where everything you know is wrong.
--

I wouldn't go that far. Seems like the Campy and SRAM patents are pretty incremental - adding a cog, carrier design modification, cog tooth modification - not exactly what one would call a 'major' update. The Shimano design is new, but like one of the comments in the article states, 'knowing shimano, it isn't likely to ever see the light of day'.

Your Bike is Obsolete
 

On 11/14/2019 4:38 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 1:49:54 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/11/pat...train-updates/

Peek into the future, where everything you know is wrong.
--

I wouldn't go that far. Seems like the Campy and SRAM patents are pretty incremental - adding a cog, carrier design modification, cog tooth modification - not exactly what one would call a 'major' update.

About the added cog: I've got two folding bikes with 9 tooth cogs. I
never use them if I can help it. They run noticeably rough, and I'm sure
they wouldn't last long at all in frequent use.

And it seems weird to turn around Spinal Tap's bragging: "It goes down
to 10!"


--
- Frank Krygowski

Your Bike is Obsolete
 

On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 12:30:07 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Thursday, 14 November 2019 13:49:54 UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/11/pat...train-updates/

Peek into the future, where everything you know is wrong.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Looks like a move to totally proprietary systems with no ability to mix with components from other systems.

I think I'll stick with what i have.

I wonder what bicyclists thought all those years ago when companies went from those big pitch chains to derailleurs or again when companies like Campagnolo dropped their rod shifters from the seat tube? At least those changes were real advances whereas much of what we see here are apparently smaller advances and perhaps not even needed or wanted by consumers.

Cheers

But the "consumers" don't know that they need the new things until
they see them. Remember the days of the "10 speed English Racer"?

Good Lord! Ten speeds? Who could use that many speeds?
Today it is add another speed each year :-(
--
cheers,

John B.

Your Bike is Obsolete
 

On Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:50:52 UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 12:30:07 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Thursday, 14 November 2019 13:49:54 UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/11/pat...train-updates/

Peek into the future, where everything you know is wrong.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Looks like a move to totally proprietary systems with no ability to mix with components from other systems.

I think I'll stick with what i have.

I wonder what bicyclists thought all those years ago when companies went from those big pitch chains to derailleurs or again when companies like Campagnolo dropped their rod shifters from the seat tube? At least those changes were real advances whereas much of what we see here are apparently smaller advances and perhaps not even needed or wanted by consumers.

Cheers

But the "consumers" don't know that they need the new things until
they see them. Remember the days of the "10 speed English Racer"?

Good Lord! Ten speeds? Who could use that many speeds?
Today it is add another speed each year :-(
--
cheers,

John B.

I remember an issue of BICYCLING MAGAZINE that had an article by them t hat 15 gears were totally unnecessary.

Cheers

Your Bike is Obsolete
 

On 11/14/2019 8:20 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:50:52 UTC-5, John B. wrote:

But the "consumers" don't know that they need the new things until
they see them. Remember the days of the "10 speed English Racer"?

Good Lord! Ten speeds? Who could use that many speeds?
Today it is add another speed each year :-(

I remember an issue of BICYCLING MAGAZINE that had an article by them t hat 15 gears were totally unnecessary.

It might be interesting to watch the hiring process at Buycycling
magazine. From the articles (which I now just skim at a library) I
suspect you don't have to be very technically competent. But you've
certainly got to be passionately in favor of whatever just came onto the
market last month.


--
- Frank Krygowski

Your Bike is Obsolete
 

On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 20:39:54 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 11/14/2019 8:20 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:50:52 UTC-5, John B. wrote:

But the "consumers" don't know that they need the new things until
they see them. Remember the days of the "10 speed English Racer"?

Good Lord! Ten speeds? Who could use that many speeds?
Today it is add another speed each year :-(

I remember an issue of BICYCLING MAGAZINE that had an article by them t hat 15 gears were totally unnecessary.

It might be interesting to watch the hiring process at Buycycling
magazine. From the articles (which I now just skim at a library) I
suspect you don't have to be very technically competent. But you've
certainly got to be passionately in favor of whatever just came onto the
market last month.

And, whoever is taking out those whole page adverts :-)
--
cheers,

John B.

Your Bike is Obsolete
 

On Thursday, 14 November 2019 20:39:57 UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/14/2019 8:20 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:50:52 UTC-5, John B. wrote:

But the "consumers" don't know that they need the new things until
they see them. Remember the days of the "10 speed English Racer"?

Good Lord! Ten speeds? Who could use that many speeds?
Today it is add another speed each year :-(

I remember an issue of BICYCLING MAGAZINE that had an article by them t hat 15 gears were totally unnecessary.

It might be interesting to watch the hiring process at Buycycling
magazine. From the articles (which I now just skim at a library) I
suspect you don't have to be very technically competent. But you've
certainly got to be passionately in favor of whatever just came onto the
market last month.


--
- Frank Krygowski

It's been quite some time since I bought BICYCLING magazine or any other bicycling magazine for that matter. For Bicycling magazine it's been at least 20 years now.

Cheers