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Tºm Shermªn™ °_°[_2_] June 3rd 11 03:15 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. Handling is standard recumbent trike. Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.

[1] http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

[email protected] June 3rd 11 03:23 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On Jun 2, 9:15*pm, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. *Handling is standard recumbent trike. *Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.

[1] http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.

--
T m Sherm n - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.


That looks really exciting, Tom, thanks for sharing.

Lewis

*****

James[_8_] June 3rd 11 03:35 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. Handling is standard recumbent trike. Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.

[1] http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.


Butbutbut, where do the shopping bags go?

--
JS.

Edward Dolan June 3rd 11 03:57 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" " wrote in
message ...
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. Handling is standard recumbent trike. Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.

[1] http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.


I like the green color, but would not yellow be seen on the road better? One
thing is for sure, all the kids in your neighborhood will love your
veolomobile, the rarest of all cycling contraptions.

I think you will find that the complete body faring does not make you much
faster. All trikes are slow, but that is OK with me as I am not into speed.
I am into all day comfort and trikes are ideal for that.

Apparently it is not possible to buy a velomobile for less than $5000. If I
could get one for $2000, I might be tempted.

Be sure to keep us informed as to how you like your new velomobile.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




Tºm Shermªn™ °_°[_2_] June 3rd 11 04:16 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On 6/2/2011 9:35 PM, James wrote:
T�m Sherm�n� �_� wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. Handling is standard recumbent trike. Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.

[1] http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.


Butbutbut, where do the shopping bags go?


80 liters of internal storage behind the seat.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Tºm Shermªn™ °_°[_2_] June 3rd 11 04:27 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On 6/2/2011 9:57 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
"T�m Sherm�n� " wrote in
message ...
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. Handling is standard recumbent trike. Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.

[1]http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.


I like the green color, but would not yellow be seen on the road better? One
thing is for sure, all the kids in your neighborhood will love your
veolomobile, the rarest of all cycling contraptions.


The first batch of 4 imported Rotovelos (Rotoveli?) was yellow, green,
blue and purple. When I ordered mine, the yellow had been sold, so I
took the green, since they come over on the slow boat from Oz.

I think you will find that the complete body faring does not make you much
faster. All trikes are slow, but that is OK with me as I am not into speed.
I am into all day comfort and trikes are ideal for that.


The fairing should keep me relatively warm and dry in less than ideal
unfaired cycling weather.

Apparently it is not possible to buy a velomobile for less than $5000. If I
could get one for $2000, I might be tempted.


The only way to get a velomobile for $2K would be to buy a less
expensive tadpole trike (e.g. Sun, TerraTrike) and build the fairing
yourself. Shipping on mine alone was more than $1K.

Be sure to keep us informed as to how you like your new velomobile.


Will work on getting the adjustments dialed in over the weekend, then I
can do some longer rides.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Tºm Shermªn™ °_°[_2_] June 3rd 11 04:31 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On 6/2/2011 9:23 PM, wrote:
On Jun 2, 9:15�pm, T�m Sherm�n� �_�""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. �Handling is standard recumbent trike. �Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.

[1]http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.

--
T m Sherm n - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.


That looks really exciting, Tom, thanks for sharing.


I will post updates.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

landotter June 3rd 11 04:54 PM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On Jun 2, 9:15*pm, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. *Handling is standard recumbent trike. *Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.


That sure looks like a lot of fun. You could probably get it paid for
by whoring yourself with some adhesive film advertising.

landotter June 3rd 11 06:13 PM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On Jun 3, 11:44*am, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 6/3/2011 10:54 AM, landotter wrote:

On Jun 2, 9:15 pm, T m Sherm n _ ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" *wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.


First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. Handling is standard recumbent trike. Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.


That sure looks like a lot of fun. You could probably get it paid for
by whoring yourself with some adhesive film advertising.


I was thinking more along the lines of "Never Before Campaign" stickers:
http://neverbeforecamp.wordpress.com/.


While I agree with the campaign, such seriousness has no place on a
velomobile. You should advertise something that both camps can
coalesce around, falafel.

AMuzi June 3rd 11 06:14 PM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
T�m Sherm�n� " wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.
First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. �Handling is standard recumbent trike. �Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.


landotter wrote:
That sure looks like a lot of fun. You could probably get it paid for
by whoring yourself with some adhesive film advertising.


Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
I was thinking more along the lines of "Never Before Campaign" stickers:
http://neverbeforecamp.wordpress.com/.



A syntactical error from Meir Kahane's pithy original
phrase, which still resonates well after these many years.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Tºm Shermªn™ °_°[_2_] June 4th 11 12:54 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On 6/3/2011 12:14 PM, A. Muzi wrote:
T�m Sherm�n� " wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.
First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. �Handling is standard recumbent trike. �Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.


landotter wrote:
That sure looks like a lot of fun. You could probably get it paid for
by whoring yourself with some adhesive film advertising.


T�m Sherm�n� �_� wrote:
I was thinking more along the lines of "Never Before Campaign"
stickers: http://neverbeforecamp.wordpress.com/.



A syntactical error from Meir Kahane's pithy original phrase, which
still resonates well after these many years.


An Orthodox Jew's take on the situation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahHIOMwEL_o&NR=1.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Tºm Shermªn™ °_°[_2_] June 4th 11 01:23 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On 6/3/2011 3:25 PM, Tosspot wrote:
On 06/03/2011 04:15 AM, T�m Sherm�n� �_� wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. Handling is standard recumbent trike. Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.

[1]http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.


You're stark staring mad!


Hey, I resemble that remark!

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Tºm Shermªn™ °_°[_2_] June 4th 11 05:10 PM

OT - THE TIDE HAS CHANGED!
 
On 6/3/2011 12:14 PM, A. Muzi wrote:
[...]
T�m Sherm�n� �_� wrote:
I was thinking more along the lines of "Never Before Campaign"
stickers: http://neverbeforecamp.wordpress.com/.



A syntactical error from Meir Kahane's pithy original phrase, which
still resonates well after these many years.


Kahane's followers have set a high moral standard:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gas_the_arabs_painted_in_Hebron.JPG.

On a more positive note, Ashkenazi Jews prepare to abandon the
ill-conceived Zionist experiment:
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/franklin-lamb-israelis-rush-for-second-passports.html#entry11683428.

Then the Mizrahi Jews and Neturei Karta Orthodox should be able to get
along just fine with Muslim and Christian Palestinian Arabs, as they did
for 1,250 years [1] prior to Zionist terrorism [2] and planned ethnic
cleaning [3], in a single, democratic state with human rights for *all*
its citizens.

[1] "Whoever wrongs a Jew or a Christian, will have to face me on
the Day of Judgment." - Muhammad ibn ‘Abdullah (PBUH).
[2] The *first* terrorists in the Middle East were the Haganah, Irgun,
Lehi (Stern Gang), and similar Zionist paramilitary organizations.
[3] The Zionist idea of ethnic cleansing Palestine of its Arab
population dates back to when Adolf Hitler was wearing short pants.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Dan O June 4th 11 05:13 PM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On Jun 3, 5:23 pm, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 6/3/2011 3:25 PM, Tosspot wrote:

On 06/03/2011 04:15 AM, T m Sherm n _ wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.


First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. Handling is standard recumbent trike. Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.


[1]http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.


You're stark staring mad!


Hey, I resemble that remark!


Hallelujah, Brother.


Tºm Shermªn™ °_°[_2_] June 4th 11 05:17 PM

OT - THE TIDE HAS CHANGED!
 
On 6/4/2011 11:10 AM, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 6/3/2011 12:14 PM, A. Muzi wrote:
[...]
T�m Sherm�n� �_� wrote:
I was thinking more along the lines of "Never Before Campaign"
stickers: http://neverbeforecamp.wordpress.com/.



A syntactical error from Meir Kahane's pithy original phrase, which
still resonates well after these many years.


Kahane's followers have set a high moral standard:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gas_the_arabs_painted_in_Hebron.JPG.

On a more positive note, Ashkenazi Jews prepare to abandon the
ill-conceived Zionist experiment:
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/franklin-lamb-israelis-rush-for-second-passports.html#entry11683428.


Then the Mizrahi Jews and Neturei Karta Orthodox should be able to get
along just fine with Muslim and Christian Palestinian Arabs, as they did
for 1,250 years [1] prior to Zionist terrorism [2] and planned ethnic
cleaning [3], in a single, democratic state with human rights for *all*
its citizens.

[1] "Whoever wrongs a Jew or a Christian, will have to face me on
the Day of Judgment." - Muhammad ibn ‘Abdullah (PBUH).
[2] The *first* terrorists in the Middle East were the Haganah, Irgun,
Lehi (Stern Gang), and similar Zionist paramilitary organizations.
[3] The Zionist idea of ethnic cleansing Palestine of its Arab
population dates back to when Adolf Hitler was wearing short pants.


Here are some Israeli's promoting peace and understanding:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9Qsapnz_n4&feature=player_embedded.

Wonder why scenes like these never get shown on USian TV?

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Tºm Shermªn™ °_°[_2_] June 4th 11 06:18 PM

Pseudo Usenet Cops
 
On 6/4/2011 11:39 AM, Jym Dyer wrote:
=x= I agree most heartily with the "OT" in the Subject: line.


Why does Mr. Dyer think he was appointed as a Usenet policeman.

Does he realize how boring this makes him?

Why is Tom Sherman massively cross-posting off-topic crap to


If Mr. Dyer followed the development of the thread, the answer would be
obvious.

these newsgroups? Does he aspire to Bananaboy assholery?


Has Donquixote1954/CommendanteBanana/Tibetan Monkey Poo ever used the OT
tag in the subject line?

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Edward Dolan June 5th 11 12:25 AM

Pseudo Usenet Cops
 
"Tºm ShermªnT °_°" " wrote in
message ...
On 6/4/2011 11:39 AM, Jym Dyer wrote:
=x= I agree most heartily with the "OT" in the Subject: line.


Why does Mr. Dyer think he was appointed as a Usenet policeman.

Does he realize how boring this makes him?

Why is Tom Sherman massively cross-posting off-topic crap to


If Mr. Dyer followed the development of the thread, the answer would be
obvious.


Even so, you are an idiot to ruin your own original posting thread.

these newsgroups? Does he aspire to Bananaboy assholery?


Has Donquixote1954/CommendanteBanana/Tibetan Monkey Poo ever used the OT
tag in the subject line?


Just changing the subject heading does not excuse you from messing up your
own original posting thread.

Quit ****ing around, get out and ride your new velomobile. We want some
intelligent reports on it, not what you think of Zionists!

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



Tºm Shermªn™ °_°[_2_] June 5th 11 01:55 AM

Velomobilism
 
On 6/4/2011 6:25 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
Quit ****ing around, get out and ride your new velomobile. We want some
intelligent reports on it, not what you think of Zionists!


Velomobilism *ism. :)

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Frank Krygowski[_2_] June 5th 11 02:57 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On Jun 2, 10:15*pm, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. *Handling is standard recumbent trike. *Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.

[1] http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.


Is this possible?
http://photos.demandstudios.com/12/9...8138912_XS.jpg

- Frank Krygowski

Tºm Shermªn™ °_°[_2_] June 5th 11 03:12 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On 6/4/2011 8:57 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Jun 2, 10:15�pm, T�m Sherm�n� �_�""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. �Handling is standard recumbent trike. �Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.

[1]http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.


Is this possible?
http://photos.demandstudios.com/12/9...8138912_XS.jpg

- Frank Krygowski


No, since there are foot-holes for "reverse" and ventilation.

However, the body shell is made with similar material (thermoplastic
polymer) and rotational-molding process as most commercially made kayaks
of recent vintage.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

James[_8_] June 5th 11 08:30 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On Jun 5, 12:12*pm, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:

No, since there are foot-holes for "reverse" and ventilation.


Flintstones come to mind, especially when the chain breaks.
http://uploads.neatorama.com/wp-cont...Rubble-Car.jpg

--
JS

Tºm Shermªn™ °_°[_2_] June 5th 11 12:32 PM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On 6/5/2011 2:30 AM, James wrote:
On Jun 5, 12:12�pm, T�m Sherm�n� �_�""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:

No, since there are foot-holes for "reverse" and ventilation.


Flintstones come to mind, especially when the chain breaks.
http://uploads.neatorama.com/wp-cont...Rubble-Car.jpg


You really should be thanking me for supporting your local economy
(Rotovelos are built in Dromana).

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Tºm Shermªn °_° June 7th 11 12:02 PM

Pseudo Usenet Cops
 
On 6/7/2011 12:31 AM, Jym Dyer wrote:
Why does Mr. Dyer think he was appointed as a Usenet policeman.


=x= A policeman enforces laws. I simply criticize. It shouldn't
take too many neurons to discern the difference between the two.

Why is Tom Sherman massively cross-posting off-topic crap ...

If Mr. Dyer followed the development of the thread, the answer
would be obvious.


=x= Why would Mr. Dyer -- or anyone at all for that matter --
give a flying **** about the boring minutiae of whatever new
off-topic side-issue that Tom Sherman flitted off to, in the
manner of a teeny-brained moth? Being a repetitive dimwit
is one thing; taking it to Banana/Ape**** levels of annoyance
with excessive off-topic cross-posting, quite another.
_Jym_


Why does Mr. Dyer hardly ever post anything but complaints about other
person's postings?

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

DougC June 8th 11 12:56 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On 6/4/2011 9:12 PM, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 6/4/2011 8:57 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Jun 2, 10:15�pm, T�m Sherm�n� �_�""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. �Handling is standard recumbent trike. �Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.

[1]http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.


Is this possible?
http://photos.demandstudios.com/12/9...8138912_XS.jpg

- Frank Krygowski


No, since there are foot-holes for "reverse" and ventilation.

However, the body shell is made with similar material (thermoplastic
polymer) and rotational-molding process as most commercially made kayaks
of recent vintage.


You can still get composite kayaks easily, but not in all models. Sea
kayaks and racing kayaks are still available that way.

They are relatively expensive though, compared to the poly boats.

Tºm Shermªn °_° June 8th 11 02:34 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On 6/7/2011 6:56 PM, DougC wrote:
On 6/4/2011 9:12 PM, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 6/4/2011 8:57 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Jun 2, 10:15�pm, T�m Sherm�n� �_�""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. �Handling is standard recumbent trike. �Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.

[1]http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.

Is this possible?
http://photos.demandstudios.com/12/9...8138912_XS.jpg

- Frank Krygowski


No, since there are foot-holes for "reverse" and ventilation.

However, the body shell is made with similar material (thermoplastic
polymer) and rotational-molding process as most commercially made kayaks
of recent vintage.


You can still get composite kayaks easily, but not in all models. Sea
kayaks and racing kayaks are still available that way.

They are relatively expensive though, compared to the poly boats.


I expect that the composite kayaks are slightly lighter, but more fragile?

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

SMS June 8th 11 05:15 AM

Pseudo Usenet Cops
 
On 6/6/2011 10:31 PM, Jym Dyer wrote:

Being a repetitive dimwit
is one thing; taking it to Banana/Ape**** levels of annoyance
with excessive off-topic cross-posting, quite another.


Global Usenet filters eliminate that problem, and anyone that is really
upset with the excessive off-topic cross-posting can take advantage of
the filtering capability of their newsreader (including Google Groups).

What's a tad annoying is that these posters often will change their
"from" address to try to get around everyone's filters, but if you
design your filters carefully this can usually be solved. They are
professional pests that annoy people that let themselves be annoyed.

You are not going to fix these persons core problems so try to be
compassionate and work around them.

ATP June 8th 11 11:58 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 

"Tºm Shermªn °_°" " wrote in message
...
On 6/7/2011 6:56 PM, DougC wrote:
On 6/4/2011 9:12 PM, Tºm ShermªnT °_° wrote:
On 6/4/2011 8:57 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Jun 2, 10:15?pm, T?m Sherm?n? ?_?""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. ?Handling is standard recumbent trike. ?Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.

[1]http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.

Is this possible?
http://photos.demandstudios.com/12/9...8138912_XS.jpg

- Frank Krygowski

No, since there are foot-holes for "reverse" and ventilation.

However, the body shell is made with similar material (thermoplastic
polymer) and rotational-molding process as most commercially made kayaks
of recent vintage.


You can still get composite kayaks easily, but not in all models. Sea
kayaks and racing kayaks are still available that way.

They are relatively expensive though, compared to the poly boats.


I expect that the composite kayaks are slightly lighter, but more fragile?

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.


Yes. I don't think the composites are appropriate for most general
recreational use.



DougC June 8th 11 01:50 PM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On 6/7/2011 8:34 PM, Tºm Shermªn °_° wrote:
On 6/7/2011 6:56 PM, DougC wrote:
On 6/4/2011 9:12 PM, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 6/4/2011 8:57 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Jun 2, 10:15�pm, T�m Sherm�n� �_�""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. �Handling is standard recumbent trike. �Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.

[1]http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.

Is this possible?
http://photos.demandstudios.com/12/9...8138912_XS.jpg

- Frank Krygowski

No, since there are foot-holes for "reverse" and ventilation.

However, the body shell is made with similar material (thermoplastic
polymer) and rotational-molding process as most commercially made kayaks
of recent vintage.


You can still get composite kayaks easily, but not in all models. Sea
kayaks and racing kayaks are still available that way.

They are relatively expensive though, compared to the poly boats.


I expect that the composite kayaks are slightly lighter, but more fragile?


Usually lighter, compared to a poly boat the same rough dimensions.

Two other reasons they are desirable is 1) the surface finish is
smoother, which some people claim makes a difference in boat speed. 2)
the composite boats are more fragile, but are also much more repairable.

There are sold HDPE "welding kits" for plastic boats, with a few sticks
of the same plastic and instructions on how to apply heat with a heat
gun or soldering/heating iron.

....one example, with pics of use:
http://www.urethanesupply.com/kcwelder.php

(note that I have not had to use any of these kits yet.... the
urethanesupply kit page above, I just found on Google)

The HDPE plastic does not re-liquify when heated however, it just gets
really soft & tacky. The repair is not as strong as the original
undamaged plastic.

Also, poorly-designed poly boats can develop stress cracks at given
locations and if these are patched with a welding kit, they may still
crack out when the boat is used.

Tºm Shermªn °_° June 9th 11 01:31 AM

I am a Rotovelonaut!
 
On 6/8/2011 7:50 AM, DougC wrote:
On 6/7/2011 8:34 PM, Tºm Shermªn °_° wrote:
On 6/7/2011 6:56 PM, DougC wrote:
On 6/4/2011 9:12 PM, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 6/4/2011 8:57 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Jun 2, 10:15�pm, T�m Sherm�n� �_�""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
Pictures of my Trisled Rotovelo [1] he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/sets/72157626747843025/.

First ride around the condo subdivision just to make sure everything
works. �Handling is standard recumbent trike. �Biggest adjustment is
getting in and out.

[1]http://www.trisled.com.au/rotovelo.asp.

Is this possible?
http://photos.demandstudios.com/12/9...8138912_XS.jpg

- Frank Krygowski

No, since there are foot-holes for "reverse" and ventilation.

However, the body shell is made with similar material (thermoplastic
polymer) and rotational-molding process as most commercially made
kayaks
of recent vintage.


You can still get composite kayaks easily, but not in all models. Sea
kayaks and racing kayaks are still available that way.

They are relatively expensive though, compared to the poly boats.


I expect that the composite kayaks are slightly lighter, but more
fragile?


Usually lighter, compared to a poly boat the same rough dimensions.

Two other reasons they are desirable is 1) the surface finish is
smoother, which some people claim makes a difference in boat speed. 2)
the composite boats are more fragile, but are also much more repairable.

There are sold HDPE "welding kits" for plastic boats, with a few sticks
of the same plastic and instructions on how to apply heat with a heat
gun or soldering/heating iron.

...one example, with pics of use:
http://www.urethanesupply.com/kcwelder.php

(note that I have not had to use any of these kits yet.... the
urethanesupply kit page above, I just found on Google)

The HDPE plastic does not re-liquify when heated however, it just gets
really soft & tacky. The repair is not as strong as the original
undamaged plastic.

Also, poorly-designed poly boats can develop stress cracks at given
locations and if these are patched with a welding kit, they may still
crack out when the boat is used.


My Rotovelo has a steel cruciform frame, so the body is not a structural
member. Composite velomobiles are often monocoque or semi-monocoque.
Both end up weighing about the same, but the paint on the composite
bodies is easily damaged.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.


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