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Mrcheerful[_3_] July 21st 13 02:28 PM

Child mown down by hi-speed pavement cyclist
 
Guess what? She cleared off quick. On a pavement despite an adjacent cycle
path.

Oscar Sowden was walking home from Caversham Festival last Sunday with his
family when the cyclist ploughed into him at speed on the footpath running
beneath Reading Bridge.

http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/ne...eding-cyclist/



Alexis July 21st 13 02:48 PM

Child mown down by hi-speed pavement cyclist
 
Mrcheerful wrote:

Guess what? She cleared off quick...


Shameful, the least she could have done was to kiss the child's
bruised right ear better before she left.


Bertie Wooster[_2_] July 21st 13 02:57 PM

Child mown down by hi-speed pavement cyclist
 
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 14:48:52 +0100, Alexis
wrote:

Mrcheerful wrote:

Guess what? She cleared off quick...


Shameful, the least she could have done was to kiss the child's
bruised right ear better before she left.


=====Quote=====
This week borough transport leader Cllr Tony Page backed the Sowdens
and said the law is clear that it is an offence for anyone over 16 to
cycle on pavements.
=====/Quote=====

Is it legal for anyone under 16 to cycle on Reading pavements?

Alexis July 21st 13 03:30 PM

Child mown down by hi-speed pavement cyclist
 
Bertie Wooster wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 14:48:52 +0100, Alexis
wrote:

Mrcheerful wrote:

Guess what? She cleared off quick...


Shameful, the least she could have done was to kiss the child's
bruised right ear better before she left.


=====Quote=====
This week borough transport leader Cllr Tony Page backed the Sowdens
and said the law is clear that it is an offence for anyone over 16 to
cycle on pavements.
=====/Quote=====

Is it legal for anyone under 16 to cycle on Reading pavements?


Cllr Page is probably mixing up what he considers reasonable and what
the law is actually clear on.

On a related issue, though, I found this article published last year
interesting:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...vement-offence

The article is headed "Cycling on the pavement is not always an
offence" and includes this bit:

"Reported injuries from collisions between pedestrians and cyclists
are low. A study for the DfT in 1993 found that there were "no real
factors to justify excluding cyclists from pedestrianised areas", and
there must at least be some parallels with shared use paths."


jnugent July 21st 13 03:33 PM

Child mown down by hi-speed pavement cyclist
 
On 21/07/2013 15:30, Alexis wrote:
Bertie Wooster wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 14:48:52 +0100, Alexis
wrote:

Mrcheerful wrote:

Guess what? She cleared off quick...

Shameful, the least she could have done was to kiss the child's
bruised right ear better before she left.


=====Quote=====
This week borough transport leader Cllr Tony Page backed the Sowdens
and said the law is clear that it is an offence for anyone over 16 to
cycle on pavements.
=====/Quote=====

Is it legal for anyone under 16 to cycle on Reading pavements?


Cllr Page is probably mixing up what he considers reasonable and what
the law is actually clear on.

On a related issue, though, I found this article published last year
interesting:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...vement-offence

The article is headed "Cycling on the pavement is not always an
offence" and includes this bit:

"Reported injuries from collisions between pedestrians and cyclists
are low. A study for the DfT in 1993 found that there were "no real
factors to justify excluding cyclists from pedestrianised areas", and
there must at least be some parallels with shared use paths."


....in the opinion of a Guardian journo.

We all know how valuable that is.

Paul Cummins[_6_] July 21st 13 04:06 PM

Child mown down by hi-speed pavement cyclist
 
In article ,
(Mrcheerful) wrote:


Oscar Sowden was walking home from Caversham Festival last Sunday
with his family when the cyclist ploughed into him at speed on the
footpath running beneath Reading Bridge.


1) It's not a footpath, it's a bridleway along the edge of the thames

2) What was a five year old doing there alone, unsupervised by an adult.

3) As it's a bridleway, there is no need for an adjacent cycle path, and
there isn't one.

--
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Wasting Bandwidth since 1981

---- If it's below this line, I didn't write it ----

Judith[_4_] July 21st 13 04:44 PM

Child mown down by hi-speed pavement cyclist
 
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 14:28:01 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Guess what? She cleared off quick. On a pavement despite an adjacent cycle
path.

Oscar Sowden was walking home from Caversham Festival last Sunday with his
family when the cyclist ploughed into him at speed on the footpath running
beneath Reading Bridge.

http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/ne...eding-cyclist/



It could have been Porky Chapman wearing a wig???


Judith[_4_] July 21st 13 04:46 PM

Child mown down by hi-speed pavement cyclist
 
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 15:33:27 +0100, JNugent wrote:

snip


...in the opinion of a Guardian journo.

We all know how valuable that is.



Indeed - there is at least on Guardian journalist who is a raving psycholist.

I would take anything he writes with a pinch of salt.


Judith[_4_] July 21st 13 04:52 PM

Child mown down by hi-speed pavement cyclist
 
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 16:06 +0100 (BST), (Paul
Cummins) wrote:

In article ,

(Mrcheerful) wrote:


Oscar Sowden was walking home from Caversham Festival last Sunday
with his family when the cyclist ploughed into him at speed on the
footpath running beneath Reading Bridge.


1) It's not a footpath, it's a bridleway along the edge of the thames

2) What was a five year old doing there alone, unsupervised by an adult.

3) As it's a bridleway, there is no need for an adjacent cycle path, and
there isn't one.



ffs - you really are stupid aren't you.

Were you actually there - did you witness the incident - do you know precisely
where it happened.

What do you think "walking home with his family" actually means?

Mrcheerful[_3_] July 21st 13 04:52 PM

Child mown down by hi-speed pavement cyclist
 
Paul Cummins wrote:
In article ,
(Mrcheerful) wrote:


Oscar Sowden was walking home from Caversham Festival last Sunday
with his family when the cyclist ploughed into him at speed on the
footpath running beneath Reading Bridge.


1) It's not a footpath, it's a bridleway along the edge of the thames

2) What was a five year old doing there alone, unsupervised by an
adult.

3) As it's a bridleway, there is no need for an adjacent cycle path,
and there isn't one.


So it is OK to mow down unaccompanied children ?

In any case it would appear that the crash happened on the bridge, where the
pavement has a cycle path.




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