Wheres a good place to ride near asheville nc?
 

This would be for a simple novice with limited mechanical knowledge or scents of direction.

Wheres a good place to ride near asheville nc?
 

On 4/3/2020 6:47 PM, Larry Mamacita wrote:
This would be for a simple novice with limited mechanical knowledge or scents of direction.


Start by searching up Asheville NC on Google Maps. In the window at
left, click the "hamburger" (3 horizontal lines) and choose Bicycling
and Terrain. Zoom in or out to find the highlighted trails or roads that
may suit you.

https://goo.gl/maps/dtULJDGZXz9zpY7z6

Ashville is very hilly territory. A novice would probably want to start
with one of the riverside multi-use paths. The famous Skyline Drive is
quite nearby, and is very, very beautiful, but it's hilly indeed, not
good for novices.

--
- Frank Krygowski

Wheres a good place to ride near asheville nc?
 

Thanks Frank.

What do you all think about this?...

That simple minded novice is planning on carrying his firearms for protection against a pack of wild toy poodles terrorizing his area.

Should he yell "Freeze!!!" or just start the gun slinging?

Wheres a good place to ride near asheville nc?
 

On 4/3/2020 11:01 PM, Larry Goes Bike Riding wrote:
Thanks Frank.

What do you all think about this?...

That simple minded novice is planning on carrying his firearms for protection against a pack of wild toy poodles terrorizing his area.

Should he yell "Freeze!!!" or just start the gun slinging?




Absolutely read your relevant State statutes. Thoroughly.
And recent case law if you're unclear on certain aspects.

If you want free advice from a cyclist and firearms owner,
'Don't do that.'

For professional advice, pay for an hour of an attorney's
time and get some scary education. Then, don't do that.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Wheres a good place to ride near asheville nc?
 

OK but the toy poodle pack is tough and ruthless. The simple minded biker is rough and toothless.

Wheres a good place to ride near asheville nc?
 

On 4/4/2020 8:24 AM, Larry Goes Bike Riding wrote:
OK but the toy poodle pack is tough and ruthless. The simple minded biker is rough and toothless.


If you read newspapers regularly, you'll notice than when
two stolen cars full of thugs shoot at each other, the
little girl on the third floor across the street is killed.

You might consider some of the streaming pressurized
capiscum (or CS, or CN depending on your State)sprays. I
have no experience whatsoever in that area but customers who
do report prompt successful resolution of canine problems.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Wheres a good place to ride near asheville nc?
 

On 4/4/2020 12:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/4/2020 8:24 AM, Larry Goes Bike Riding wrote:
OK but the toy poodle pack is tough and ruthless. The simple minded
biker is rough and toothless.


If you read newspapers regularly, you'll notice than when two stolen
cars full of thugs shoot at each other, the little girl on the third
floor across the street is killed.

You might consider some of the streaming pressurized capiscum (or CS, or
CN depending on your State)sprays. I have no experience whatsoever in
that area but customers who do report prompt successful resolution of
canine problems.

We used to live in a small town in a southern U.S. state. Dogs were
everywhere, bicyclists were rare, and many owners felt their dogs had
more rights than bicyclists. Getting chased by dogs - often multiple
dogs in a pack - was a daily occurrence.

I got lots of experience using "Halt!" brand capsaicin spray. IME, it
works well on most, but not all dogs if the spray hits them in the face,
but a few dogs are undeterred.

Its main shortcomings are limited range and required accuracy. The dog
needs to be within about six feet, which means if the dog is charging
hard and intending full impact, it's useless. And it emits a stream, not
a spray. That's necessary to prevent spraying a fellow rider. So it
takes practice to shoot it accurately. I used to target dandelions and
fire hydrants to get the hang of aiming.

Down south, I eventually settled on carrying a few small rocks in my
handlebar bag. Rocks had better range, and most dogs seem instinctively
afraid of thrown rocks. "Halt!" was a backup.

Here in the much more civilized north, "Halt!" is all I need, and I need
it only rarely.


--
- Frank Krygowski

Wheres a good place to ride near asheville nc?
 

My buddy larry sticks his finger in the dogs butt to stop them.

Wheres a good place to ride near asheville nc?
 

On Sat, 04 Apr 2020 11:28:33 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

You might consider some of the streaming pressurized
capiscum (or CS, or CN depending on your State)sprays. I
have no experience whatsoever in that area but customers who
do report prompt successful resolution of canine problems.

But be sure that you get the dog on its first pass. If he has a
little fun before he gets hurt, he may take up Halt dodging the way
Hillary took up mountain climbing.

If you have no Halt and see a dog that might attack, take a mouthful
of water. When he gets close enough, spit in his face. This has
never happened to him before, and he will sit down to think it over.

I once bored a dog into giving up bike chasing.

I used to live on a triangle of roads that would have been perfect for
a quick lap, save that a neglected dog lived in a dip, forcing me to
brake just when I'd like to save momentum for the steep climb ahead.

When I got my first can of Halt, I went dog-hunting. I came down the
hill, the dog came out bellowing, I missed, climbed the hill, turned
around, went past again, missed again. The third time he didn't get
close enough to take a shot. But I kept going back and forth until on
my last pass, the dog lifted his head from his paws, emitted a weak
and dutiful "woof", and went back to sleep.

He never attacked me again.

I don't recall having been chased since we moved from New York to
Indiana. Out in the country, we have only well-trained farm dogs.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

Wheres a good place to ride near asheville nc?
 

On 4/5/2020 11:32 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Sat, 04 Apr 2020 11:28:33 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

You might consider some of the streaming pressurized
capiscum (or CS, or CN depending on your State)sprays. I
have no experience whatsoever in that area but customers who
do report prompt successful resolution of canine problems.

But be sure that you get the dog on its first pass. If he has a
little fun before he gets hurt, he may take up Halt dodging the way
Hillary took up mountain climbing.

If you have no Halt and see a dog that might attack, take a mouthful
of water. When he gets close enough, spit in his face. This has
never happened to him before, and he will sit down to think it over.

I once bored a dog into giving up bike chasing.

I used to live on a triangle of roads that would have been perfect for
a quick lap, save that a neglected dog lived in a dip, forcing me to
brake just when I'd like to save momentum for the steep climb ahead.

When I got my first can of Halt, I went dog-hunting. I came down the
hill, the dog came out bellowing, I missed, climbed the hill, turned
around, went past again, missed again. The third time he didn't get
close enough to take a shot. But I kept going back and forth until on
my last pass, the dog lifted his head from his paws, emitted a weak
and dutiful "woof", and went back to sleep.

He never attacked me again.

I haven't bored any dogs out of attacking, but I have trained several by
applying negative consequences - either "Halt!" spray, or back in the
old days, rocks served at high velocity.

Especially in the old days down south, the dogs were a real hazard. I
had been charged by a St. Bernard who would have knocked me over bodily.
My wife was riding to the grocery and had a dog bite and try to hang on
to her panniers. Our kid was bitten on both legs bad enough to get
infected and require our lawyer's work.

So when I encountered a troublesome dog, I took to riding past him again
and again, giving negative feedback until he stopped chasing me that
day. I'd return the next day and repeat. Eventually they learned to not
mess with me or my family.

I don't recall having been chased since we moved from New York to
Indiana. Out in the country, we have only well-trained farm dogs.

Yes, the problem varies greatly with location.



--
- Frank Krygowski