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jnugent October 4th 19 01:53 AM

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 
On 04/10/2019 00:27, TMS320 wrote:

On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?


Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let
out of jail?


I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?


How would you go about revoking a licence that hasn't been issued?

By magic?




TMS320 October 4th 19 10:16 AM

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 
On 04/10/2019 01:53, JNugent wrote:
On 04/10/2019 00:27, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let
out of jail?


I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?


How would you go about revoking a licence that hasn't been issued?


You could ask the person that mentioned it.
Follow the link and you might find out:-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-years.html

Simon Mason[_6_] October 4th 19 11:02 AM

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?


Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let
out of jail?


I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?


It might mean that he will be flagged up as a banned driver on the ANPR when he goes past.

jnugent October 4th 19 12:42 PM

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 
On 04/10/2019 10:16, TMS320 wrote:

On 04/10/2019 01:53, JNugent wrote:
On 04/10/2019 00:27, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let
out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?


How would you go about revoking a licence that hasn't been issued?


You could ask the person that mentioned it.
Follow the link and you might find out:-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-years.html


Really?

QUOTE:
[Judge's remarks include:]
"'Not only were you driving dangerously, you did so while you were on
licence* and were driving without a licence** and insurance...
ENDQUOTE

* That bit's nothing to do with driving licences.

** That IS to do with driving licences - the defendant with that long
criminal background and list of convictions din't have a driving
licence, though of course, none of that antecedence disqualifies him
from riding a bicycle - he has the qualification for that.

So I ask again - and in response to the poster who asked "Do we know if
his revocation will still be in force when he gets let out of jail?" -
how would you go about revoking a licence that hasn't been issued?

jnugent October 4th 19 12:43 PM

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 
On 04/10/2019 11:02, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let
out of jail?


I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?


It might mean that he will be flagged up as a banned driver on the ANPR when he goes past...


....on the bike which is the only vehicle he's qualified for?

Simon Jester October 4th 19 12:56 PM

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:18:44 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:

On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?


Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let out of jail?


It is technically possible for a non-licence-holder, who of course, is
not a driver but is a cyclist*, to be banned from driving (which means
banned from obtaining a licence and banned from becoming a driver).

It isn't at all possible for a non-existent licence to be revoked.

Get yourself a dictionary.

[* Someone who has not got a driving licence is only qualified to ride a
bicycle (or drive a horse-drawn vehicle).


Yes 'J', you have made your point that cyclists use the roads as a matter of right rather than under licence.
If a person has never held a driving licence and never ridden a pedal cycle are they a cyclist?

TMS320 October 4th 19 01:13 PM

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 
On 04/10/2019 11:02, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets
let out of jail?


I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?


It might mean that he will be flagged up as a banned driver on the
ANPR when he goes past.


ANPR doesn't do facial recognition.

Perhaps there needs to be some sort of punishment on keepers when it is
found that they knowingly allow a banned driver use their car.

Simon Mason[_6_] October 4th 19 01:18 PM

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 1:13:17 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/10/2019 11:02, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets
let out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?


It might mean that he will be flagged up as a banned driver on the
ANPR when he goes past.


ANPR doesn't do facial recognition.

Perhaps there needs to be some sort of punishment on keepers when it is
found that they knowingly allow a banned driver use their car.


I think that drivers who don't have a licence are usually caught when their number plate is flagged up for no VED, MOT or insurance. He gave a false name and address though when he was nabbed after killing the cyclist.

TMS320 October 4th 19 01:23 PM

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 
On 04/10/2019 12:42, JNugent wrote:
On 04/10/2019 10:16, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/10/2019 01:53, JNugent wrote:
On 04/10/2019 00:27, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let
out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

How would you go about revoking a licence that hasn't been issued?


You could ask the person that mentioned it.
Follow the link and you might find out:-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-years.html


Really?


Yis, dead.

QUOTE:
[SEBASTIAN MURPHY-BATES FOR MAILONLINE]
"Richardson wuz sentenced ter eight years in bridewell and a fther fo
years ed licence, wi' a possibility fe parole at de earliest date o'
five years and fo munths. 'is driv'n licence wul also be revoked."
ENDQUOTE

(Translation by http://www.whoohoo.co.uk)

TMS320 October 4th 19 01:37 PM

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 
On 04/10/2019 13:18, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:


I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?


I think that drivers who don't have a licence are usually caught when
their number plate is flagged up for no VED, MOT or insurance. He
gave a false name and address though when he was nabbed after killing
the cyclist.


It says it was his ex-partner's car.


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