A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

QUOTE:
Judge Nicholas Heathcote Williams QC, passing sentence, said: 'Your driving was appalling. I consider this at the most serious level of dangerousness.

'You deliberately drove dangerously in a way that caused death. You showed complete disregard to the danger caused to others. More, as a cyclist, the deceased was a vulnerable user of the road.

'Your previous convictions show a history of aggressively promoting your own short term interests and a readiness to endanger others.

'Not only were you driving dangerously, you did so while you were on licence and were driving without a licence and insurance. You failed to report the incident.

'You also used a false name when confronted with police officers and absconded at the first opportunity. Mr Marchesini was in no way responsible for the collision.

'You are a selfish man. The sympathy you claim you feel is shallow. I accept you feel sad, but I suspect you feel sad for yourself as you will be in prison for a very long time.'

Richardson was sentenced to eight years in prison and a further four years on licence, with a possibility for parole at the earliest date of five years and four months. His driving licence will also be revoked.
ENDS

Revoked for the rest of the criminal driver's life, one hopes.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-years.html

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 9:44:51 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
QUOTE:
Judge Nicholas Heathcote Williams QC, passing sentence, said: 'Your driving was appalling. I consider this at the most serious level of dangerousness.

'You deliberately drove dangerously in a way that caused death. You showed complete disregard to the danger caused to others. More, as a cyclist, the deceased was a vulnerable user of the road.

'Your previous convictions show a history of aggressively promoting your own short term interests and a readiness to endanger others.

'Not only were you driving dangerously, you did so while you were on licence and were driving without a licence and insurance. You failed to report the incident.

'You also used a false name when confronted with police officers and absconded at the first opportunity. Mr Marchesini was in no way responsible for the collision.

'You are a selfish man. The sympathy you claim you feel is shallow. I accept you feel sad, but I suspect you feel sad for yourself as you will be in prison for a very long time.'

Richardson was sentenced to eight years in prison and a further four years on licence, with a possibility for parole at the earliest date of five years and four months. His driving licence will also be revoked.
ENDS

Revoked for the rest of the criminal driver's life, one hopes.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-years.html

"The road had only been made one-way three months earlier"
You see with your brain not your eyes. Cyclists' brains can process images in yocto seconds but it can take up to 3 years for a motorist's brain to process the same image. Might explain why they jump so many red lights.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:
QUOTE:
Judge Nicholas Heathcote Williams QC, passing sentence, said: 'Your driving was appalling. I consider this at the most serious level of dangerousness.

'You deliberately drove dangerously in a way that caused death. You showed complete disregard to the danger caused to others. More, as a cyclist, the deceased was a vulnerable user of the road.

'Your previous convictions show a history of aggressively promoting your own short term interests and a readiness to endanger others.

'Not only were you driving dangerously, you did so while you were on licence and were driving without a licence and insurance. You failed to report the incident.

'You also used a false name when confronted with police officers and absconded at the first opportunity. Mr Marchesini was in no way responsible for the collision.

'You are a selfish man. The sympathy you claim you feel is shallow. I accept you feel sad, but I suspect you feel sad for yourself as you will be in prison for a very long time.'

Richardson was sentenced to eight years in prison and a further four years on licence, with a possibility for parole at the earliest date of five years and four months. His driving licence will also be revoked.
ENDS

Revoked for the rest of the criminal driver's life, one hopes.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-years.html

Isn't it about time that is was made illegal to drive without a driving
licence and without insurance?

In fact, what do you call a man who hasn't got a driving licence and
cannot afford insurance (or is too tight to buy it)?

A *cyclist*, of course.

It's all he's qualified for.

So "Richardson" was nothing more than a cyclist (he had the
qualifications for that), illegally pretending to be a "motorist" (ie, a
driver).

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 03/10/2019 00:22, Simon Jester wrote:
On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 9:44:51 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
QUOTE:
Judge Nicholas Heathcote Williams QC, passing sentence, said: 'Your driving was appalling. I consider this at the most serious level of dangerousness.

'You deliberately drove dangerously in a way that caused death. You showed complete disregard to the danger caused to others. More, as a cyclist, the deceased was a vulnerable user of the road.

'Your previous convictions show a history of aggressively promoting your own short term interests and a readiness to endanger others.

'Not only were you driving dangerously, you did so while you were on licence and were driving without a licence and insurance. You failed to report the incident.

'You also used a false name when confronted with police officers and absconded at the first opportunity. Mr Marchesini was in no way responsible for the collision.

'You are a selfish man. The sympathy you claim you feel is shallow. I accept you feel sad, but I suspect you feel sad for yourself as you will be in prison for a very long time.'

Richardson was sentenced to eight years in prison and a further four years on licence, with a possibility for parole at the earliest date of five years and four months. His driving licence will also be revoked.
ENDS

Revoked for the rest of the criminal driver's life, one hopes.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-years.html

"The road had only been made one-way three months earlier"
You see with your brain not your eyes. Cyclists' brains can process images in yocto seconds but it can take up to 3 years for a motorist's brain to process the same image. Might explain why they jump so many red lights.

"...driving without a licence and insurance...".

In other words, Richardson wasn't a motorist. He had none of the
necessary legal qualifications for that.

All he was qualified for was cycling. He was a cyclist illegally
pretending to be a "motorist".

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 03/10/2019 09:19, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

His "driving licence" cannot be revoked for rather obvious reasons: he
didn't have one (read the report again). And no insurance.

He was only qualified to be a cyclist, not a driver.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let out of jail?

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:

On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let out of jail?

It is technically possible for a non-licence-holder, who of course, is
not a driver but is a cyclist*, to be banned from driving (which means
banned from obtaining a licence and banned from becoming a driver).

It isn't at all possible for a non-existent licence to be revoked.

Get yourself a dictionary.

[* Someone who has not got a driving licence is only qualified to ride a
bicycle (or drive a horse-drawn vehicle).

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:18:44 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:

On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let out of jail?

It is technically possible for a non-licence-holder, who of course, is
not a driver but is a cyclist*, to be banned from driving (which means
banned from obtaining a licence and banned from becoming a driver).

It isn't at all possible for a non-existent licence to be revoked.

Get yourself a dictionary.

[* Someone who has not got a driving licence is only qualified to ride a
bicycle (or drive a horse-drawn vehicle).

Your new meds seem to be working too well, get the nurse to slow the drip.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let
out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 04/10/2019 00:27, TMS320 wrote:

On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let
out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

How would you go about revoking a licence that hasn't been issued?

By magic?

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 04/10/2019 01:53, JNugent wrote:
On 04/10/2019 00:27, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let
out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

How would you go about revoking a licence that hasn't been issued?

You could ask the person that mentioned it.
Follow the link and you might find out:-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-years.html

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let
out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

It might mean that he will be flagged up as a banned driver on the ANPR when he goes past.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 04/10/2019 10:16, TMS320 wrote:

On 04/10/2019 01:53, JNugent wrote:
On 04/10/2019 00:27, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let
out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

How would you go about revoking a licence that hasn't been issued?

You could ask the person that mentioned it.
Follow the link and you might find out:-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-years.html

Really?

QUOTE:
[Judge's remarks include:]
"'Not only were you driving dangerously, you did so while you were on
licence* and were driving without a licence** and insurance...
ENDQUOTE

* That bit's nothing to do with driving licences.

** That IS to do with driving licences - the defendant with that long
criminal background and list of convictions din't have a driving
licence, though of course, none of that antecedence disqualifies him
from riding a bicycle - he has the qualification for that.

So I ask again - and in response to the poster who asked "Do we know if
his revocation will still be in force when he gets let out of jail?" -
how would you go about revoking a licence that hasn't been issued?

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 04/10/2019 11:02, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let
out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

It might mean that he will be flagged up as a banned driver on the ANPR when he goes past...

....on the bike which is the only vehicle he's qualified for?

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:18:44 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:

On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let out of jail?

It is technically possible for a non-licence-holder, who of course, is
not a driver but is a cyclist*, to be banned from driving (which means
banned from obtaining a licence and banned from becoming a driver).

It isn't at all possible for a non-existent licence to be revoked.

Get yourself a dictionary.

[* Someone who has not got a driving licence is only qualified to ride a
bicycle (or drive a horse-drawn vehicle).

Yes 'J', you have made your point that cyclists use the roads as a matter of right rather than under licence.
If a person has never held a driving licence and never ridden a pedal cycle are they a cyclist?

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 04/10/2019 11:02, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets
let out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

It might mean that he will be flagged up as a banned driver on the
ANPR when he goes past.

ANPR doesn't do facial recognition.

Perhaps there needs to be some sort of punishment on keepers when it is
found that they knowingly allow a banned driver use their car.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 1:13:17 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/10/2019 11:02, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets
let out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

It might mean that he will be flagged up as a banned driver on the
ANPR when he goes past.

ANPR doesn't do facial recognition.

Perhaps there needs to be some sort of punishment on keepers when it is
found that they knowingly allow a banned driver use their car.

I think that drivers who don't have a licence are usually caught when their number plate is flagged up for no VED, MOT or insurance. He gave a false name and address though when he was nabbed after killing the cyclist.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 04/10/2019 12:42, JNugent wrote:
On 04/10/2019 10:16, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/10/2019 01:53, JNugent wrote:
On 04/10/2019 00:27, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let
out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

How would you go about revoking a licence that hasn't been issued?

You could ask the person that mentioned it.
Follow the link and you might find out:-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-years.html

Really?

Yis, dead.

QUOTE:
[SEBASTIAN MURPHY-BATES FOR MAILONLINE]
"Richardson wuz sentenced ter eight years in bridewell and a fther fo
years ed licence, wi' a possibility fe parole at de earliest date o'
five years and fo munths. 'is driv'n licence wul also be revoked."
ENDQUOTE

(Translation by http://www.whoohoo.co.uk)

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 04/10/2019 13:18, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

I think that drivers who don't have a licence are usually caught when
their number plate is flagged up for no VED, MOT or insurance. He
gave a false name and address though when he was nabbed after killing
the cyclist.

It says it was his ex-partner's car.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 1:23:18 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
QUOTE:
[SEBASTIAN MURPHY-BATES FOR MAILONLINE]
"Richardson wuz sentenced ter eight years in bridewell and a fther fo
years ed licence, wi' a possibility fe parole at de earliest date o'
five years and fo munths. 'is driv'n licence wul also be revoked."
ENDQUOTE

So he has a driving licence that can be revoked?
Perhaps he has one but was banned?

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 04/10/2019 12:56, Simon Jester wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:18:44 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:

On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let out of jail?

It is technically possible for a non-licence-holder, who of course, is
not a driver but is a cyclist*, to be banned from driving (which means
banned from obtaining a licence and banned from becoming a driver).

It isn't at all possible for a non-existent licence to be revoked.

Get yourself a dictionary.

[* Someone who has not got a driving licence is only qualified to ride a
bicycle (or drive a horse-drawn vehicle).

Yes 'J', you have made your point that cyclists use the roads as a matter of right rather than under licence.
If a person has never held a driving licence and never ridden a pedal cycle are they a cyclist?

A murderous chav who has never applied or paid for a driving licence,
taken or passed a test or bothered to buy insurance and has killed an
innocent road-user is not a driver. All they are qualified to do is ride
a bike (or, though it is now vanishingly uncommon, a vehicle which is
drawn by a draught animal).

What further qualifications would he need before riding a bicycle?

Is this even controversial?

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 04/10/2019 13:23, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/10/2019 12:42, JNugent wrote:
On 04/10/2019 10:16, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/10/2019 01:53, JNugent wrote:
On 04/10/2019 00:27, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let
out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

How would you go about revoking a licence that hasn't been issued?

You could ask the person that mentioned it.
Follow the link and you might find out:-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-years.html


Really?

Yis, dead.

QUOTE:
[SEBASTIAN MURPHY-BATES FOR MAILONLINE]
"Richardson wuz sentenced ter eight years in bridewell and a fther fo
years ed licence, wi' a possibility fe parole at de earliest date o'
five years and fo munths. 'is driv'n licence wul also be revoked."
ENDQUOTE

(Translation by http://www.whoohoo.co.uk)

Well, it IS a cyclist you are talking about.

That's all he's qualified for, as you know and will agree.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 1:37:48 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/10/2019 13:18, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

I think that drivers who don't have a licence are usually caught when
their number plate is flagged up for no VED, MOT or insurance. He
gave a false name and address though when he was nabbed after killing
the cyclist.

It says it was his ex-partner's car.

The criminal driver also lied about his name and address, so the car could have been his. Either way, since he was behind the wheel of a car, that makes him a driver, in the same way as a person who is inside a 6ft radius of a bicycle is deemed to be a cyclist by the Pounders of this world.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On Fri, 04 Oct 2019 11:42:39 GMT, JNugent
wrote:

On 04/10/2019 10:16, TMS320 wrote:

On 04/10/2019 01:53, JNugent wrote:
On 04/10/2019 00:27, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets
let out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

How would you go about revoking a licence that hasn't been issued?

You could ask the person that mentioned it.
Follow the link and you might find out:-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...killed-cyclist
-phone-jailed-eight-years.html

Really?

QUOTE:
[Judge's remarks include:]
"'Not only were you driving dangerously, you did so while you were on
licence* and were driving without a licence** and insurance...
ENDQUOTE

* That bit's nothing to do with driving licences.

** That IS to do with driving licences - the defendant with that long
criminal background and list of convictions din't have a driving
licence, though of course, none of that antecedence disqualifies him
from riding a bicycle - he has the qualification for that.

So I ask again - and in response to the poster who asked "Do we know
if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let out of
jail?" - how would you go about revoking a licence that hasn't been
issued?


I'm confused; was this dangerous criminal on a bicycle or in a car at the
time of the assault?




--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 04/10/2019 14:31, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 1:37:48 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/10/2019 13:18, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

I think that drivers who don't have a licence are usually caught when
their number plate is flagged up for no VED, MOT or insurance. He
gave a false name and address though when he was nabbed after killing
the cyclist.

It says it was his ex-partner's car.

The criminal driver also lied about his name and address, so the car could have been his. Either way, since he was behind the wheel of a car, that makes him a driver, in the same way as a person who is inside a 6ft radius of a bicycle is deemed to be a cyclist by the Pounders of this world.

CORRECTED:

The criminal cyclist also lied about his name and address, so the car
could have been his (after all, you don't need to be a driver to own a
vehicle). Even though he was behind the wheel of a car, that doesn't
make him a driver because a driver needs to have been taught to drive
and to have passed a series of tests as well as to have obtained a
licence. In a similar way, any person, no matter how depraved, is
qualified as a cyclist.

You have not been charged for this rather obvious correction of your
erroneous facts.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 04/10/2019 16:21, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Fri, 04 Oct 2019 11:42:39 GMT, JNugent
wrote:

On 04/10/2019 10:16, TMS320 wrote:

On 04/10/2019 01:53, JNugent wrote:
On 04/10/2019 00:27, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets
let out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

How would you go about revoking a licence that hasn't been issued?

You could ask the person that mentioned it.
Follow the link and you might find out:-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...killed-cyclist
-phone-jailed-eight-years.html

Really?

QUOTE:
[Judge's remarks include:]
"'Not only were you driving dangerously, you did so while you were on
licence* and were driving without a licence** and insurance...
ENDQUOTE

* That bit's nothing to do with driving licences.

** That IS to do with driving licences - the defendant with that long
criminal background and list of convictions din't have a driving
licence, though of course, none of that antecedence disqualifies him
from riding a bicycle - he has the qualification for that.

So I ask again - and in response to the poster who asked "Do we know
if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let out of
jail?" - how would you go about revoking a licence that hasn't been
issued?


I'm confused; was this dangerous criminal on a bicycle or in a car at the
time of the assault?

This cyclist (that's all he had any qualification for) was acting
illegally. That doesn't make him a driver any more than a shotgun
wielding bank robber is a soldier.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 04/10/2019 12:43, JNugent wrote:
On 04/10/2019 11:02, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/10/2019 21:14, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 9:19:56 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/10/2019 21:44, Simon Mason wrote:

His driving licence will also be revoked.

Will it make any difference?

Do we know if his revocation will still be in force when he gets let
out of jail?

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

It might mean that he will be flagged up as a banned driver on the
ANPR when he goes past...

...on the bike which is the only vehicle he's qualified for?

and how does anpr know whom is the driver of any car?

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 1:37:48 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/10/2019 13:18, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

I think that drivers who don't have a licence are usually caught
when their number plate is flagged up for no VED, MOT or insurance.
He gave a false name and address though when he was nabbed after
killing the cyclist.

It says it was his ex-partner's car.

The criminal driver also lied about his name and address, so the car
could have been his. Either way, since he was behind the wheel of a
car, that makes him a driver, in the same way as a person who is
inside a 6ft radius of a bicycle is deemed to be a cyclist by the
Pounders of this world.

I've never been nasty to you. Cut it out Simon.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 4:21:20 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:

I'm confused; was this dangerous criminal on a bicycle or in a car at the
time of the assault?

There is NO confusion; the jailed criminal was driving a car at the time of the deadly assault, so he was a driver, or motorist at the time. If he was riding a bicycle instead and killed the victim, his name would have gone down in history amongst the Daily Mail faithful. The fact that he may or may not have had a driving licence does not alter the fact that the was driving a motor vehicle.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:02:18 GMT, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 4:21:20 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:

I'm confused; was this dangerous criminal on a bicycle or in a car at
the

time of the assault?

There is NO confusion; the jailed criminal was driving a car at the
time of the deadly assault, so he was a driver, or motorist at the
time. If he was riding a bicycle instead and killed the victim, his
name would have gone down in history amongst the Daily Mail faithful.
The fact that he may or may not have had a driving licence does not
alter the fact that the was driving a motor vehicle.

Nugget has got a bee in his bonnet about the driver not being qualified.
Because no properly qualified driver could ever commit a crime.


--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On Fri, 04 Oct 2019 16:01:49 GMT, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 1:37:48 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/10/2019 13:18, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

I think that drivers who don't have a licence are usually caught
when their number plate is flagged up for no VED, MOT or insurance.
He gave a false name and address though when he was nabbed after
killing the cyclist.

It says it was his ex-partner's car.

The criminal driver also lied about his name and address, so the car
could have been his. Either way, since he was behind the wheel of a
car, that makes him a driver, in the same way as a person who is
inside a 6ft radius of a bicycle is deemed to be a cyclist by the
Pounders of this world.

I've never been nasty to you. Cut it out Simon.

You are generically nasty to all cyclists, why wouldn't he reply in kind?



--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 7:22:23 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:02:18 GMT, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 4:21:20 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:

I'm confused; was this dangerous criminal on a bicycle or in a car at
the

time of the assault?

There is NO confusion; the jailed criminal was driving a car at the
time of the deadly assault, so he was a driver, or motorist at the
time. If he was riding a bicycle instead and killed the victim, his
name would have gone down in history amongst the Daily Mail faithful.
The fact that he may or may not have had a driving licence does not
alter the fact that the was driving a motor vehicle.

Nugget has got a bee in his bonnet about the driver not being qualified.
Because no properly qualified driver could ever commit a crime.

The judge in charge of the case said.

QUOTE:
"Your driving was appalling."
ENDS

The jailed criminal was driving a car, whether he had taken no lessons, or was a member of the IAM.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:02:18 GMT, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 4:21:20 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:

I'm confused; was this dangerous criminal on a bicycle or in a car
at the

time of the assault?

There is NO confusion; the jailed criminal was driving a car at the
time of the deadly assault, so he was a driver, or motorist at the
time. If he was riding a bicycle instead and killed the victim, his
name would have gone down in history amongst the Daily Mail faithful.
The fact that he may or may not have had a driving licence does not
alter the fact that the was driving a motor vehicle.

Nugget has got a bee in his bonnet about the driver not being
qualified. Because no properly qualified driver could ever commit a
crime.

I happen to remember your pathetic postings to the driving group when you
were taking driving lessons. The times when you admitted that the instructor
had to grab the steering wheel. Oh how we laughed. It could be better for
you if you kept your comments to cycling and not driving.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On Fri, 04 Oct 2019 18:29:06 GMT, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:02:18 GMT, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 4:21:20 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John
wrote:

I'm confused; was this dangerous criminal on a bicycle or in a car
at the

time of the assault?

There is NO confusion; the jailed criminal was driving a car at the
time of the deadly assault, so he was a driver, or motorist at the
time. If he was riding a bicycle instead and killed the victim, his
name would have gone down in history amongst the Daily Mail
faithful. The fact that he may or may not have had a driving licence
does not alter the fact that the was driving a motor vehicle.

Nugget has got a bee in his bonnet about the driver not being
qualified. Because no properly qualified driver could ever commit a
crime.

I happen to remember your pathetic postings to the driving group when
you were taking driving lessons. The times when you admitted that the
instructor had to grab the steering wheel. Oh how we laughed. It could
be better for you if you kept your comments to cycling and not
driving.

This would be when?

And yet you with your self-confessed hatred of cyclists continue to post
here. Hypocrisy of the first order.


--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Fri, 04 Oct 2019 18:29:06 GMT, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:02:18 GMT, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 4:21:20 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John
wrote:

I'm confused; was this dangerous criminal on a bicycle or in a car
at the

time of the assault?

There is NO confusion; the jailed criminal was driving a car at the
time of the deadly assault, so he was a driver, or motorist at the
time. If he was riding a bicycle instead and killed the victim, his
name would have gone down in history amongst the Daily Mail
faithful. The fact that he may or may not have had a driving
licence does not alter the fact that the was driving a motor
vehicle.

Nugget has got a bee in his bonnet about the driver not being
qualified. Because no properly qualified driver could ever commit a
crime.

I happen to remember your pathetic postings to the driving group when
you were taking driving lessons. The times when you admitted that the
instructor had to grab the steering wheel. Oh how we laughed. It
could be better for you if you kept your comments to cycling and not
driving.

This would be when?

About maybe 10 plus years ago? I tend to remember things.

And yet you with your self-confessed hatred of cyclists continue to
post here. Hypocrisy of the first order.

I have never used the words hatred or hate regarding cyclists.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Fri, 04 Oct 2019 16:01:49 GMT, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 1:37:48 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/10/2019 13:18, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

I think that drivers who don't have a licence are usually caught
when their number plate is flagged up for no VED, MOT or
insurance. He gave a false name and address though when he was
nabbed after killing the cyclist.

It says it was his ex-partner's car.

The criminal driver also lied about his name and address, so the car
could have been his. Either way, since he was behind the wheel of a
car, that makes him a driver, in the same way as a person who is
inside a 6ft radius of a bicycle is deemed to be a cyclist by the
Pounders of this world.

I've never been nasty to you. Cut it out Simon.

You are generically nasty to all cyclists, why wouldn't he reply in
kind?

I have never been nasty to him by name, that's why.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 04/10/2019 14:31, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 1:37:48 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/10/2019 13:18, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320
wrote:

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

I think that drivers who don't have a licence are usually caught
when their number plate is flagged up for no VED, MOT or
insurance. He gave a false name and address though when he was
nabbed after killing the cyclist.

It says it was his ex-partner's car.

The criminal driver also lied about his name and address, so the car
could have been his.

If the court was told it was his ex-partner's car that version would
override any lies.

Either way, since he was behind the wheel of a car, that makes him a
driver, in the same way as a person who is inside a 6ft radius of a
bicycle is deemed to be a cyclist by the Pounders of this world.

Well, the Nugents of this world are now trying to tell us that a
pedestrian harmed by a person operating a motor vehicle without a
licence would have been harmed by a cyclist.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 04/10/2019 19:27, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 7:22:23 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:02:18 GMT, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 4:21:20 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:

I'm confused; was this dangerous criminal on a bicycle or in a car at
the

time of the assault?

There is NO confusion; the jailed criminal was driving a car at the
time of the deadly assault, so he was a driver, or motorist at the
time. If he was riding a bicycle instead and killed the victim, his
name would have gone down in history amongst the Daily Mail faithful.
The fact that he may or may not have had a driving licence does not
alter the fact that the was driving a motor vehicle.

Nugget has got a bee in his bonnet about the driver not being qualified.
Because no properly qualified driver could ever commit a crime.

The judge in charge of the case said.

QUOTE:
"Your driving was appalling."
ENDS

The jailed criminal was driving a car, whether he had taken no lessons, or was a member of the IAM.

The criminal was a cyclist. It was all he was qualified for.

A 'bloody idiot' is jailed for 8 years
 

On 05/10/2019 07:59, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Fri, 04 Oct 2019 16:01:49 GMT, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 1:37:48 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/10/2019 13:18, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:27:07 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:

I meant, will not having a licence stop him from driving?

I think that drivers who don't have a licence are usually caught
when their number plate is flagged up for no VED, MOT or
insurance. He gave a false name and address though when he was
nabbed after killing the cyclist.

It says it was his ex-partner's car.

The criminal driver also lied about his name and address, so the car
could have been his. Either way, since he was behind the wheel of a
car, that makes him a driver, in the same way as a person who is
inside a 6ft radius of a bicycle is deemed to be a cyclist by the
Pounders of this world.

I've never been nasty to you. Cut it out Simon.

You are generically nasty to all cyclists, why wouldn't he reply in
kind?

I have never been nasty to him by name, that's why.




But you have to others.