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Bod[_5_] July 12th 17 11:03 AM

Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for driving tooclose to bike
 
A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for
driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed
police biker.

Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try
and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk.

The 60-year-old driver was taken to court and ordered to pay £1,038 in
fines and costs. He was also given five points on his licence for the
manoeuvre in Park Lane West, Tipton, last November after being found
court at Birmingham Magistrates’ Court.

He was among the first motorists in the country to be taken to court
after the operation to protect cyclists from ‘close passes’.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/12/underc...-bike-6772386/


Ian Smith July 12th 17 11:39 AM

Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
 
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:03:40 +0100, Bod wrote:
A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for
driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed
police biker.

Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try
and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk.


In what way is a policeman on a bicycle 'posed as' a cyclist, rather
than being a cyclist?

regards, Ian SMith
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Bod[_5_] July 12th 17 01:04 PM

Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
 
On 12/07/2017 11:39, Ian Smith wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:03:40 +0100, Bod wrote:
A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for
driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed
police biker.

Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try
and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk.


In what way is a policeman on a bicycle 'posed as' a cyclist, rather
than being a cyclist?

regards, Ian SMith

Blimey, is it national pedants day already!

jnugent July 12th 17 01:55 PM

Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
 
On 12/07/2017 11:03, Bod wrote:

A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for
driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed
police biker.

Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try
and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk.

The 60-year-old driver was taken to court and ordered to pay £1,038 in
fines and costs. He was also given five points on his licence for the
manoeuvre in Park Lane West, Tipton, last November after being found
court at Birmingham Magistrates’ Court.

He was among the first motorists in the country to be taken to court
after the operation to protect cyclists from ‘close passes’.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/12/underc...-bike-6772386/


Can anyone quote a section of a Road Traffic Act which specifies this
"1.5 metres"?

Note also the quoted rules in the story:

QUOTE:
When overtaking motorists should give ‘at least’ as much room to
cyclists and horse riders as they would another car, according to the
Highway Code.
ENDQUOTE

And 1.5 metres is a fair bit more than another car will or can be given
in many circumstances.

Does this 1.5 meter "rule" (wherever it is alleged to come from) not
apply when a cyclist pulls alongside a vehicle stopped at traffic
lights? If not, why not? Surely the drivers of vehicles overtaken by
cyclists have just as much right to expect the same safety margin and
the same courtesy that cyclists expect from everyone else on the planet?

QUOTE:
Rules for all road users (including cyclists)

If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and
speed, *slowing* *down* if necessary to let the vehicle pass.

*Never* obstruct drivers who wish to pass.
ENDQUOTE



Incubus July 12th 17 03:45 PM

Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
 
On 12/07/2017 11:03, Bod wrote:
A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for
driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed
police biker.

Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try
and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk.

The 60-year-old driver was taken to court and ordered to pay £1,038 in
fines and costs. He was also given five points on his licence for the
manoeuvre in Park Lane West, Tipton, last November after being found
court at Birmingham Magistrates’ Court.

He was among the first motorists in the country to be taken to court
after the operation to protect cyclists from ‘close passes’.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/12/underc...-bike-6772386/


Why don't the Police 'pose' as pedestrians to catch cyclists riding on
pavements?

Better yet, why aren't they focussing on violent offence and thefts?

Mr Pounder Esquire July 12th 17 04:50 PM

Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for driving too close to bike
 
Ian Smith wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:03:40 +0100, Bod wrote:
A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted
for driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a
plain-clothed police biker.

Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to
try and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk.


In what way is a policeman on a bicycle 'posed as' a cyclist, rather
than being a cyclist?

regards, Ian SMith


Posing as a cyclist means that you ride a kid's toy with your mouth wide
open and a gormless look on your face.
Oh, and you also need to shave your legs ................. ffs.



Rob Morley July 12th 17 08:57 PM

Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
 
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:39:20 -0000 (UTC)
Ian Smith wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:03:40 +0100, Bod wrote:
A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted
for driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a
plain-clothed police biker.

Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to
try and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk.


In what way is a policeman on a bicycle 'posed as' a cyclist, rather
than being a cyclist?

That's what I thought. I imagine the officers chosen for this duty were
already cyclists, and might even have been riding their own bikes.


Rob Morley July 12th 17 09:57 PM

Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
 
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:45:16 +0100
Incubus wrote:

Why don't the Police 'pose' as pedestrians to catch cyclists riding
on pavements?


Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly
just an annoyance that other people like to exaggerate - they rarely
kill anyone, much more often a case of "nearly hit someone". Where it
is an acknowledged problem, in places like Cambridge, they have
occasional crack-downs on pavement cycling and bikes with no lights,
but that's all it merits really.

Better yet, why aren't they focussing on violent offence and thefts?


Getting hit by a ton or thirty of metal can be pretty violent. It
regularly causes serious injury or death to people who were doing
nothing wrong (and others who may have contributed to their own
misfortune, but still mostly didn't deserve it). Don't forget it's not
just cyclists, but also pedestrians and motorists, who are regularly
hit by truck drivers that didn't leave enough room or allow for their
blind-spots at junctions, crossings and even on the motorway.
I also note that two of the drivers stopped in the W.Mids campaign had
their licenses immediately suspended at the roadside because they
couldn't see well enough to be driving - that has to benefit every
other road user regardless of mode.


Mr Pounder Esquire July 12th 17 10:32 PM

Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for driving too close to bike
 
Rob Morley wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:45:16 +0100
Incubus wrote:

Why don't the Police 'pose' as pedestrians to catch cyclists riding
on pavements?


Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly
just an annoyance that other people like to exaggerate - they rarely
kill anyone, much more often a case of "nearly hit someone". Where it
is an acknowledged problem, in places like Cambridge, they have
occasional crack-downs on pavement cycling and bikes with no lights,
but that's all it merits really.


My long dead mother used to walk to the shop. She was very fail and could
not see very well.
If some footpath riding **** of a cyclist had hit her, the cyclist would
have killed her and then smartly ****ed off, as scum cyclists tend to do.

But then again, in your own words:
"Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly
just an annoyance".

You disgust me.






jnugent July 12th 17 11:51 PM

Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
 
On 12/07/2017 22:32, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Rob Morley wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:45:16 +0100
Incubus wrote:

Why don't the Police 'pose' as pedestrians to catch cyclists riding
on pavements?


Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly
just an annoyance that other people like to exaggerate - they rarely
kill anyone, much more often a case of "nearly hit someone". Where it
is an acknowledged problem, in places like Cambridge, they have
occasional crack-downs on pavement cycling and bikes with no lights,
but that's all it merits really.


My long dead mother used to walk to the shop. She was very fail and could
not see very well.
If some footpath riding **** of a cyclist had hit her, the cyclist would
have killed her and then smartly ****ed off, as scum cyclists tend to do.

But then again, in your own words:
"Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly
just an annoyance".

You disgust me.


+1.

And that's mainly for the callous disingenuity of the "argument".

Cyclists on footways are utter turds. Try as one might, there is no
getting around that.


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