On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 1:23:31 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 7:32:31 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 9:53:48 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 6:25:29 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 11:50:06 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 1:23:54 AM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
As I probably misplaced in Andre's string, I have decided to train in the winter for power. I can't remember doing this before but I must have done so.

I had a couple of toutes that are between 20 and 30 miles and I do a fast first half. Stop for coffee and donut and then a fast return. 24 miles ends up being about 2 hours with the stop.

When I started a couple of weeks ago I was averaging between 11 and 11.5 mph. Yesterday I was a git sore from Tuesday so I tried to take it a little easier. Tuesday's average was 14 mph and Thursday's was 14,75. There are a couple of rises that I was slowing down on and I'm not slowing down nearly as much now.

So let's see how this winter progresses and then when the weather improves I'll do some endurance rides since early April is a century. Last August my younger brother dropped me like the layer of dust on his bike. But he ran out of steam 10 miles from the end. But that ain't the way he tells it.

So, lets see how it goes.

If you want training for power you have to do that with a power meter so you know what you are doing. Average speed is not a good indicator especially when traffic lights are involved. If you just want to train (for what?) more effective than I agree short rides with higher intensities followed by enough recovery time are the way to go. Long boring rides with constant and low intensities are something from the past. For training that is except for PBP of course.

Lou

I absolutely disagree with the idea of power meters. Even the pros are stopping using those things.

What do you disagree with? Pros stopping with power meters? For training? Absolute nonsense.

Lou


Pros usually do not ride with power meters anymore. You use them when testing for TT's so that you know how much power you can put out for the length and difficulty of the course. Eneos was using them to monitor climbing power. The problem with this is that you have to go with the breaks so all your plans go out the window. So about all they are using them for is lab work and TT's.


A power meter is a trainings device and all pro riders use one. A race is a race and it is rue that you have to ride in the red zone to win a race or stage, but the majority of the riders ride a race with a power meter at least to analyse the data afterwards or do you think all the Garmin head units you see on their bikes are for following the route? . GC riders use de data of the power meters during the race because for them it is 3 weeks race to win.

Lou

https://cyclinguphill.com/pros-and-c...-power-meters/

I can't find the article now - they blamed the Tour loss of Froome on his power meter and that riders were stopping using power meters except in TT's