On Tuesday, January 21, 2020 at 8:25:17 PM UTC, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 12:06:06 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:
On Monday, January 20, 2020 at 9:04:05 PM UTC-8, Chalo wrote:
Tom Kunich wrote:

Murder by cop. Not at all infrequent.

Fixed that for you.

The fact that you don't like cops doesn't change in the least that
people directly with police guns trained on them will make threatening
moves purposely having themselves killed. Whether you like cops or not
that is not murder.

Would it be murder if it was a police officer with gang member guns
trained on him, who then made a move perceived as threatening and got
shot? You bet it would. Prosecuted, signed, sealed, delivered to jail.
Most people wouldn't ask any questions (at least most people who are
white and middle class).

Cops get a pass on shooting people unnecessarily. The "fog of war,"
needing to make a "split second decision," "warrior" training, etc.,
etc. Not sure what the threat is when it's a kid who's unarmed, 50 feet
away and facing away from the cop. Or when it's a black guy seated in
his car who lawfully informs the officer that he has a conceal and carry
permit and is armed, but is shot multiple times within 30 seconds of
that (with the victim's wife and child in the car). Or when a woman
calls the police about a neighborhood disturbance that sounds like a
person being harmed and is shot and killed when she approaches the
police car that responded to her call. Or when it's a cop who tells his
partner he's going to shoot and kill the guy as they drive up in their
cruiser, caught on the dash cam, and then does so *and* plants a gun to
implicate the victim as the cause of the shooting.

I guess those are acceptable losses in an increasingly totalitarian
America.

Well, sheet, Timmie, if people have a constitutional right to own guns, and all your cops are armed, sure as hell someone will get shot, even before you account for all the racial tensions the Democrats are stirring up with their descent into identitarian politics.

I grew up with unarmed cops who would clip a teenage wrongdoer in the ear rather than arrest him, and we respected the law and its agents.

Andre Jute
You can't have it both ways