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Old May 11th 18, 07:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tim McNamara
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On Fri, 11 May 2018 07:29:55 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/11/2018 12:33 AM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 10 May 2018 23:06:28 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 5/10/2018 6:15 PM, John B. wrote:

I suspect that you, like I, are what might be called a sensible
rider. RE, door zones, just slow down a bit so you have time to
dodge the door if necessary.

Um... no, that's not sensible.

Consider what happens if you're riding just 15 kph and a driver pops
his door open as you pass his rear bumper. There's no way to stop in
time.

If you're lucky, you'll hit his door squarely and crumple beneath
it. If you're unlucky, you'll snag the door edge with your right
handlebar, the bike will steer to the right, your body will be
thrown down to the left, and the motor vehicle you were worried
about will run over you.

Unlike mountain lion attacks, dooring really is a danger. Most
states don't record it as a car-bike collision, because they record
those only if the car was moving. But Chicago did keep track, and
found that something like 20% of car-bike crashes were doorings.

Don't ride in the door zone. Just don't.


Funny, I can't remember ever having problem with "door zones" and
there was one area, actually a small bridge in a village I used to
pass through where cars congregated. There was a bank just at the
edge of the bridge which had ATM's there were always cars parked
there. I never gave it much thought but what I think I did was to
move out further into the road. I do remember having a couple of
people open their door just a crack and peer out at me and then close
the door and wait for me to pass.

One thing that is difficult in discussing traffic in different
countries is the different laws and customs. In Thailand, for
example, if you were to open the door of your car into someone's path
and they literally ripped your door off and punted it down the road
that would be your fault and you would be liable for both repairs to
your car, the "door ripper" and any damage the door did subsequent to
being ripped off.

But something that is happening in Bangkok at the moment might be of
interest in the U.S. Bangkok is literally covered with surveillance
cameras which are now being programmed to stop the rather reckless
lane changing one sees in Bangkok. As of yesterday, in one day, they
caught 750 vehicles making illegal lane changes and providing the
program gets the go ahead traffic tickets will be mailed to the
miscreants.

The news article emphasized that each lane change is a separate
offence so ten illegal lane changes equates to 10 tickets. Which, if
the news article was accurate would equate to about 10,000 baht in
fines. As a comparison, minimum wage here is 300 baht a day, at the
moment. 10,000/300 = ~33 days of minimum wages.

If the U.S. would install and program surveillance cameras to
recognize bicycles and to identify those who break the various laws
that control them it might put a large dent in the numbers of bicycle
accidents.



Be careful what you wish:
https://futurism.com/facial-recognit...social-credit/

This will not end with lane changes and jaywalking.


Nope.

And don't buy a phone with facial recognition unlocking.
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