On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 09:22:09 GMT, bill wrote:

Dave Head wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:02:59 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote:

In article ,
Dave Head wrote:

Its easy to understand... at the time, the Dems were still into
collecting up all the guns, and in spite of how that is not a popular
issue with you and your friends,
Which is a crock of ****. You're just telling a lie here.

Not by a long shot. They were never openly pursuing that, because to say it
even they knew was poison. So, they held that view, and worked toward that
goal, but were damn transparent to the rest of us.

For instance, what is gun registration good for? Not tracking guns. Its good
for knowing where the guns are, and then declaring them to be illegal and
expecting people to turn them in. Happened in California with the assault
weapon ban out there (the people, BTW, mostly didn't turn them in - there's
hundreds of thousands of now-illegal "assault" weapons in California society.)

Heh, tell me about it. Mine stays put. I might need it some day.

Yeppir, that's the spirit.

What else is gun registration good for? If you get 'em all registered, then
you institute a tax on gun ownership, and just keep raising it and raising it
until only the wealthly and elite have the wherewithall to keep guns. That's
what the liberal elite is aiming at.

Nts not a crock, its the truth. The liberal Dems were just smart enough not to
say it. Their supporters said it at times, and the occasional politician said
it - it was one of the California Dems, in fact, that said, "If it were up to
me, if I had the power, I'd say, "Turn 'em all in, Mr. and Mrs America" ".

The liberal Dems _were_ most assuredly working toward an eventual confiscation
of _all_ the American citizens guns. That's a fact.

in a whole lot of the rest of the country, people cherish their 2nd
amemdment rights, and in fact all their rights. While California,
New York, and a lof of the coastal states would like to forget the
2nd amendment, the rest of the country, those vast seas of red
states, believe that without our guns, the liberals would do just as
they please, and negate even more of the bill of right.
LOL. What crack you been smoking, dude? It's the Republicans that are
tossing your rights into the trash, not the Democrats.

True and not true. Its both. My particular pet amendment is the 2nd. You
pick one and vote on that. I don't care. The SOB's have to be stopped when
they F with the constitution and specifically its bill of rights.

Bush would like to mess with the constitution, not on guns, but other
things, so why not bitch about 'junk' amendments? Ever since 9/11 I have
found excessive police presence. When I turned 55 I went to the local
Social Security office just to see if I was eligible for anything, since
I have paid a ton of income tax and SS tax, and I was met at the door by
a retired cop with a metal detector wand. I said "What the F..k is
this?" and he said he was hired after 9/11 to prevent a possible
terrorist occurrence in the office. A Social Security office?
Get real, there are 3 employees and no money and there were 4 gray
haired people all over 70 just sitting there. Bush is getting ridiculous
with the over policing of the country. As people on r.b.misc know, I was
detained just for riding my bicycle on a public road too close to an Air
Force base and looking suspicious. I am a totally white third generation
American and no way do I look the least bit arabic, yet I was held until
a county sheriff could come and load me and my bike for a quick ride
back home. Bush may not be anti-gun but he sure as hell wants to take
our freedoms away. I am more worried about being hassled by the Homeland
Security people than being killed by a terrorist these days.
Bill Baka

And if more people went forth armed, there wouldn't be such a need for the
hired armed people. Its weird - so many people are against personal carrying
of handguns, but hire some schmuck for minimum wage, give him clothes that are
all 1 color and shiny black shoes, and then he's good to go for standing in
school hallways with a gun. He's probably not half as qualified to deal with
an armed intruder as the teachers would be if they had guns on them.

The teachers should all have the _right_ to carry, with a minimum of
regulations - must have personal carry permit, must have the required training
for having a personal carry permit, and, while at school, absolutely must
_wear_ the gun - no sticking it in a briefcase, no putting it in a purse,
nowhere except somewhere on the body - and NO revealing its presence to
_anyone_. NO ONE should know who is carrying - not the principal, not the
other teachers, and sure as hell not the kids. The only time anyone finds out
is when they have a sudden sucking chest wound.

I imagine the 3 70-yr-old ladies might have requested the guard 'cuz they felt
fairly "naked" and alone. They really only needed some friends - Mr. Smith and
Mr. Wesson, or maybe Sam Colt.

Dave Head


The Republicans
are outstandingly good liars, though, I'll give them credit for that.

Not a patch on gun-grabbing liberal democrats, tho.

As the old saying goes, all political parties die at last from
swallowing their own lies. It's currently the Republicans' turn.

Republican party is not going to die. For that to happen, there would have to
be a credible replacement around somewhere. There isn't. Going to vote for
libertarians? Didn't think so. Nothing else appears to be standing around as
a viable replacement.