On Jan 27, 6:32*pm, nik.morgan wrote:
Ian Smith wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 04:34:15 -0600, nik.morgan wrote:
*Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:
On 25/01/2013 18:10, Ian Smith wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:09:34 -0000, John Benn wrote:

* Why don't you just buy the wheels ready-made?

Because you get better wheels building them yourself.

* I cannot see what the point of building your own wheels is. *For
* £85, you could buy several of them.

Hand-built wheels are significantly better than machine built wheels..

Yes of course they are. *What an idiot.

*In what way are they better, a machine will line up the components a lot
*more accurately than an unskilled human?

Whether a machine builds wheels better than an unskilled human is
completely irrelevant. *Whether the machine builds wheels better than
a moderately skilled human is what matters.

Machines have trouble with wind-up in butted spokes (to the degree
that most machine-built wheels use unbutted) and do a less thorough
job of stress-relieving. *They optimise to position rather than
position and tension, generally.

It may technically be possible to make a machine that builds wheels as
good as a handbuilt wheel, but the machines that build wheels in
practice don't produce as good a wheel as a human. *A human takes 10
to 100 times longer, but produces a better wheel and can do so
reliably with a wider range of components, including those that give a
more durable wheel.

regards, * Ian SMith

Complete crap, no wonder you cyclists part with vast sums of money for
simple engineering if that is the type of bull**** you accept as gospel.

You do so enjoy showing off your ignorance and stupidity, don't you Mr
Moron? Still, you know what they say - if you've got it, flaunt it.