On 16/07/2019 16:41, TMS320 wrote:
On 16/07/2019 13:22, JNugent wrote:
On 16/07/2019 08:13, TMS320 wrote:
On 16/07/2019 01:58, JNugent wrote:

Cyclists clearly ought to boycott the Peak District and everywhere
else where such traps are thought to have been laid

Again, you're defending the people that lay the traps, with the old
"if they didn't cycle there they wouldn't get hurt".

Quite the reverse.

You don't understand plain English words like "boycott".

Yes. It would mean not cycling there.

That's right: not dignifying the area with your presence.

That'll teach 'em.

Won't it?

as well as everywhere where cyclists have been killed in traffic
accidents which have ocurred when they did something entirely
innocent like riding straight through a red traffic light.

Perhaps you would enlighten us as to how many get killed by red lights.

Do you think that's funny?

No. How many?

And if any are, you're obviously completely blind to the difference
between being harmed by one's own act and being harmed by someone
else's act.

Riding through a red traffic light and collidingÂ* with a vehicle which
is passing through the junction lawfully is indeed "being harmed by
one's own act".

It is. I never suggested otherwise.

When you answered:

QUOTE:
.... cyclists have been killed in traffic accidents [where] they did
something entirely innocent like riding straight through a red traffic
light...
ENDQUOTE

....by raising the prospect of being "harmed by someone else's act", even
though the context was completely focused upon a cyclist being harmed by
the cyclists's own act.

Only someone very stupid would claim otherwise.

Go on... you know you're dying to claim that a cyclist killed when
riding through a red light isn't the author of his/her own misfortune.

Then you have already forgotten that the thread started off about
someone laying traps. It's unlikely it was to cause self harm.

If it's that bad, boycott the areas concerned. Deny them and their
inhabitants the economic benefits that cyclists bring in their wake.