On May 2, 10:08 pm, James wrote:
On 03/05/13 13:55, Dan O wrote:

On May 2, 8:15 pm, wrote:
On Thursday, May 2, 2013 9:29:30 PM UTC-4, James wrote:
On 03/05/13 11:02, Sir Ridesalot wrote:

Whilst the article is interesting it's the comments below it
that

really get me thinking. It's amazing how many people think
that

bicyclists do NOT belong on the roads. Also interesting how
many

bicyclists delight in flaunting the Rules of the Road whenever
it

pleases tthem.

http://ca.autos.yahoo.com/news/canad...city-for-cycli...

Yup. We get that a lot.





I recently admonished one of our bicycling advocacy groups

http://www.bicyclenetwork.com.au/becausealthough their goal is

admirable, their methods are highly questionable.

They reject all notions that any sort of vehicular cycling (which
is

really what I would call defensive riding) has any usefulness,
and say

it has "failed", though it was never taught to or practiced by
many here.

It's been said: "It's not that vehicular cycling has been tried
and found to be difficult. It's that it's been assumed difficult,
and not tried."

It's been said: "krygowski you're a ****ing idiot!"

Aw, c'mon now, Dan. While that made me giggle a little, it wasn't
really called for just there, was it?

I think those of us who regularly mix it with the fossil fuel burners
have learned to ride defensively, which is a lot of what VC is about.

I'm no practitioner of strict VC. I have to say quite a few hail Eddy's
whenever I go to the VC priest for confession, but I do a lot of what
the Godfather of the "one true way" prescribes, though it was learned
from experience.

I suggest that although you take alternate routes, you do some VC stuff
without realising it. I know I do.


Not without realizing it. I absolutely *do* realize it. Moreover, I
well realize that I could *easily* do it quite completely if I wanted
to (but then my riding experience would *suck*) - references available
in the archive.

What irritates me so is Frank's superciliousness about it -
"competency" and all that. In fact I would venture to say that my way
is far more difficult ("don't try this at home, kids"), but I don't go
around criticizing anybody else's way (until they start to berate me
and mine for no good reason but to make themselves feel superior).

Oh, and the derogatory phrase abive is a ~quote from the archives -
something that's "been said" by someone else (the all lowercase is a
hint). It's a bit of a play on the value of "It's been said... "