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Old July 20th 18, 11:08 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Joerg[_2_]
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Default Making America into Amsterdam

On 2018-07-20 14:33, Duane wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 10:01:15 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-20 09:29, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 7:53:52 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 7/20/2018 5:04 AM, Duane wrote:
On 19/07/2018 8:31 PM, sms wrote:

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Perhaps they opened some new parking lots for those bike paths.
That has got to be it. As we recently learned "almost ALL trail
users in almost all areas use a car to haul their bike to the
trail." LOL. Usenet is always amusing.

I don't live out in the wilds with mountain lions and sabre
tooth tigers. I live in a city so the paths I'm talking about
are ALL close to parking. Like my driveway. Or my office
parking lot. Or the streets they parallel.

Yes, that's how the bike paths are where I am to. Occasionally, if
they pass through a park, there are parking lots. Many of the paths
are along creeks and rivers which had many parks next to them long
before a path was put in. The American River Path is one such
example. It's often convenient to put paths next to waterways
because the path can take advantage of the existing underpasses
under roads.

I was astounded to learn that "almost ALL trail users in almost
all areas use a car to haul their bike to the trail."

Seriously, some people need to learn that life exists outside their
own neighborhood, and that not all areas of the country are exactly
the same, so they don't make statements that generalize based on
their own limited experiences. Certainly people from Silicon Valley
and the Bay Area, that have never experienced the eastern U.S.,
experience culture shock when they go back east, or to the deep
south.

Sort of OT, but I was riding to work this morning through the South
Waterfront in a road surface bike lane, and two suburbanite young
women -- one with a baby jogger -- came running straight at me. I
said something to the effect of "what the f*** are you thinking?"
And then there was an older guy doing the same thing. This is like a
bike lane super-highway area and yet you have these clowns who just
don't get it. I'm seeing a lot of this lately -- it has become a
thing to run in the bike lane, and it is the same young hip
demographic for the most part. I'm getting tired of yelling at them.
We need some of Muzi's shooters to clean out the bike lanes.


An 800 lumen front light takes care of that. It triggers their flight
instincts. In bike lanes I always have it on. Rarely on bike paths or
MUP but when I encounter too many distracted or inconsiderate joggers I
turn it on. It makes a substantial difference.


A light would have done nothing -- on a flat, straight stretch with two
riders headed straight at them in bright sunlight, it was just sneers.
You think your cougars are dangerous, these two had no fear.

Also, if you blind them, then it turns into a confrontation -- and
sometimes even if you don't blind them. I was running a 1 watt blinky on
a MUP at dusk, and some dope with his dog running all over the place was
complaining about my light. I about cartwheeled over his dog. Note the
sign: "dogs on leashes." It does not say "no 1 watt blinkies." I'm
absolutely sick of the dog owners ignoring the leash laws.

-- Jay Beattie.





Not to mention that blinding the idiot heading straight for you may not be
the best plan...


Good quality lights do not blind but do make an approaching vehicle
prominently known. There is a reason why motorcycles in the US must use
daytime running lights.

--
Regards, Joerg

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