On 7/20/2018 11:04 AM, sms wrote:
On 7/20/2018 7:22 AM, AMuzi wrote:

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Well, you can't expect people to ride bicycle in alleys. That's not safe.

https://wbbm780.radio.com/articles/b...chicago-police


Where I grew up, the new suburb that was build had alleys behinds all
the houses http://oi63.tinypic.com/2l96p8l.jpg.

The alleys were the defacto bike paths for kids. They ran long
distances, though they would cross all the regular streets and you were
supposed to stop. They even had speed limit signs in the alleys "12 MPH."

The alleys were very useful since you could have driveways in the back
of your house, and garbage trucks could collect the trash from both
sides at once since the alleys were narrow.

Strangely, even though the alleys were used as bike paths, there were no
parking lots, LOL.

Let's try again, just for Mr. Scharf:

Here's a link to survey data from 20 trails in Pennsylvania and New Jersey:
https://www.railstotrails.org/resour...in al_Rev.pdf

"Purpose of Trail Use: Health 56% Recreation 38% Training 3% Other
2% Commuting 1%"

So quit confusing bike trails with alleys, Stephen. The data shows few
bike trails are used for transportation purposes.

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- Frank Krygowski