On 19/05/2020 13:29, TMS320 wrote:
On 19/05/2020 12:37, Pamela wrote:
On 19:32Â* 17 May 2020, Simon Mason said:
On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 7:19:26 PM UTC+1, Pamela wrote:

At a red light too many cyclists act as if it's their absolute right to
go through on red if there's no traffic.Â* It's quite disgraceful.

As disgraceful as this lot of offences in their millions?

Speeding, parking - etc

You seem to have a childish sense of right and wrong.

Two wrongs don't make a right.Â* What someone else does doesn't absolve
your misdeed.

Has anybody ever claimed otherwise?

But it does mean that if drivers think that their own law breaking and
that of other drivers is not a problem, they have no right to point a
finger.

That is 100% nonsense and you know it.

All citizens have the right to point out that many (most?) cyclists
today routinely break traffic law (though I'd say that it was not always
so). It makes no difference what the individual citizen may have done or
not done in the past, none of it devalues an accurate observation.