"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
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"If Miss Fernandez was five metres ahead in the cycling box Mr Grant
would
have seen her."

But she couldn't be five metres ahead because the truck was there. If
the truck was there she hadn't undertaken. If she had undertaken she
would have been ahead.

Perhaps she was in the process of undertaking the truck, makes no difference
who was where first, if you have a truck on your right shoulder and still
proceed across a junction where he may turn left, you're an idiot.

When all is said and done, if you're stopped at lights with a left-turn on a
bike and a truck pulls up to your right, the sensible thing to do would be
to wait until the truck pulls well clear, watch it either turn left or go
straight on, and only *then* pull away yourself. Forget all the nonsense
about stop lines and green boxes, they're only there to make you feel more
important and give you the illusion that you're going to get somewhere
quicker. It's amazing how self-important cyclists have such disregard for
their own safety and would rather cut 3.2 seconds off their journey than
apply some common sense.

Would you cycle on the road up the inside of a truck across a junction where
he may turn left? I wouldn't, I'd wait until the truck had passed, nobody in
their right mind would straddle themselves across a left-turn with an HGV on
their right shoulder. It's suicidal. If you're waiting at the lights and the
truck pulls alongside to your right, then just wait for it to bugger off, he
can't squash you if you stay still until he passes. The world won't end if
you're a few seconds late, but it will (for you) if you're a stupid ****.