On 17/07/2013 19:55, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:44:47 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 17/07/2013 18:29, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:22:22 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:02:18 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:03:38 +0100, Judith
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:02:16 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

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In/on what sort of vehicle does the operator most frequently
ignore one-way working, plus red traffic lights, pedestrian-only
status of a facility, etc?

Motor vehicle.


Please Sir : my dad says that that is incorrect: can you try
again: or perhaps provide some evidence if you're sure that you
are right. It would be bad form for an (ex) teacher to be giving
out duff gen.

1. Motor vehicle operators frequently ignore red traffic lights:
between 50% and 66% of them who have the opportunity to do so, do.
2. Motor vehicle operators frequently ignore pedestrian only
footways by driving onto and parking on them.
3. Motor vehicle operators frequently ignore speed limits.

The only one of the list which motor vehicle operators do
infrequently is ignore one-way working. However, as I am sure we
can all agree, it does happen.

It is very rare that car drivers ignore one way streets, some
accidentally go up them the wrong way, but cyclists do it quite
deliberately.

It is very rare that cyclists ignore motorway restrictions, some
accidentally stray onto motorways, but learner motorists do it quite
deliberately.

Do you have any proof of that?

Unfortunately there is no distinct crime code for learner drivers on
the motorway.

You're wrong (again). It is an offence (a breach of the motorway
regulations) for a learner driver to drive on a motorway.

And the accompanying qualified driver would also be guilty of an offence.

Please feel free to correct me, but as I understand it, the offence
code for a learner driver on the motorway and driving a prohibited
agricultural vehicle on the motorway are under the same offence code
(MW10).

That may well be how those two quite separate offences are listed as
endorsements on a driving licence (I wouldn't know that and would defer
to anyone with direct experience of them, such as your good self). I
mean... who cares?

But the rule prohibiting learner drivers on motorways and the rule
prohibiting certain classes of vehicle on motorways (irrespective of the
qualifications and experience of the driver) are quite separate provisions.

For information, the rule prohibiting learner drivers on motorways is
Regulation 11 of the Motorway Traffic (England & Wales) Regulations
1982, whereas the provision with respect to prohibited vehicles
(bicycles, etc) is made by Regulation 3 (1), read in conjunction with
Regulation 3 (4) and with the contents of Schedule 4 to the Highways Act
1980.

I hope this is helpful and explains the position.

I am very happy to be corrected if my understanding is wrong.

Indeed. You must be positively ecstatic.